Forums
-
Products & Feedback
-
- 7.8k
- posts
-
-
Betting Competitions
-
- 8.9k
- posts
-
- 31.6k
- posts
-
- 160k
- posts
-
- 7.2k
- posts
-
-
Gaming
-
Racing
-
- 501.1k
- posts
-
- 782
- posts
-
-
Sports
-
- 38.7k
- posts
-
- 6.7k
- posts
-
- 6k
- posts
-
- 7.9k
- posts
-
- 653
- posts
-
- 2.4k
- posts
-
- 9.9k
- posts
-
- 4.1k
- posts
- NBA 2023-2024
- By dejann,
-
- 5.1k
- posts
-
- 3k
- posts
-
- 1.2k
- posts
-
- 2k
- posts
-
- 1.5k
- posts
-
- 115
- posts
-
- 784
- posts
-
- 11
- posts
- GAA Football
- By Xtc12,
-
- 26
- posts
-
- 110.5k
- posts
-
-
UK & Ireland Football Forums
-
- 29.5k
- posts
-
- 22.6k
- posts
-
- 2.8k
- posts
-
- 13.5k
- posts
-
- 1.2k
- posts
-
- 544
- posts
-
- 1.4k
- posts
-
- 455
- posts
-
-
European Football Forums
-
- 26.6k
- posts
-
- 15.1k
- posts
-
- 141
- posts
-
- 5.9k
- posts
-
- 6.4k
- posts
-
- 7.3k
- posts
-
- 7.2k
- posts
-
- 1.4k
- posts
-
- 746
- posts
-
- 1.3k
- posts
-
- 670
- posts
-
- 1.1k
- posts
-
- 33.5k
- posts
-
-
International Football Forums
-
- 7.2k
- posts
-
- 7.9k
- posts
-
- 268
- posts
-
- 644
- posts
-
- 649
- posts
-
- 20.3k
- posts
-
-
Scandinavia Football Forums
-
- 968
- posts
-
- 256
- posts
-
- 285
- posts
-
- 137
- posts
-
- 47
- posts
-
-
Africa & Middle East Football Forums
-
- 267
- posts
-
- 13.9k
- posts
-
-
North & South American Football Forums
-
- 1.2k
- posts
-
- 2.8k
- posts
-
- 629
- posts
-
- 282
- posts
-
- 4k
- posts
-
- 730
- posts
-
-
Asian & Australian Football Forums
-
- 1.7k
- posts
-
- 141
- posts
-
- 384
- posts
- Japan J1 2022
- By Mrsha,
-
- 141
- posts
-
- 366
- posts
-
-
Women's Football Forums
-
- 43
- posts
-
- 314
- posts
-
-
Personal Quests
-
- 125.9k
- posts
-
- 250.1k
- posts
-
-
Chat Section
-
- 507
- posts
-
-
Popular Contributors
-
Forum Statistics
126.9k
Total Topics2.4m
Total Posts -
Posts
-
Profit for April was £134.88
Breakdown at the end of April
-
4.35 Cheltenham
Whatchagotder 25/1 EW BET365
-
A long, long way to go !
-
2 hours ago, frames said:
A long time ago (decades, probably) there was a vogue amongst gamblers for being dismissive of 'systems' and then saying that what they did was to use 'methods' for selection. In the end I suppose you pay your money and make your choice, but the difference between the teeth of that fine comb of definition escaped me then, and still does. Each gambler has their own likes and dislikes - and their taboos. My personal taboo is never to back each way - it only takes a moment to calculate that the 1/5 offered on a 33/1 shot that finishes 2nd or 3rd is not 6.6/1, but 3.3/1 - and you are still trying to find a 33/1 shot to place.
One of the 'methods' that was popular for a while at least used current form as a basis - look for horses that put up improved speed figures in a better race LTO - 'better' was defined by value of race e.g improved figure in 30k race LTO, now running in 20k race. It was a starting point, and was useful. It had some success then, and is probably a good yardstick still. At the time it was known as the Van Der Wheil method - apparently named after a gambler.
Not the legendary Van Der Wheil method !
I think it was based on adding the last 3 finishing positions together and taking the first 5 in the betting, I I looked at it once but the results weren't much better than random selection.
As for each way betting, I only bet each way in handicaps of 16 runners + or where extra places are available. If you do the maths on a theoretical 16 runner race where all the horses are at odds of 15/1 you would breakeven backing all the horses to win but a return of 1.5 points if you bet each way.
-
Newcastle 6.10 Moonstone Boy 2/1 B365
-