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Old 03-07-2009, 10:04   #1 (permalink)
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Hi mates,

Do you think that betfair poker software cheats? Today I got beaten several times on hands like 3 queens, straight and some other good hands. These were impossible chances. I really don't trust any poker software any more.

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Old 03-07-2009, 10:06   #2 (permalink)
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were you playing hold em or omaha m8?,i doubt they cheat as they really have no need to
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Old 03-07-2009, 10:08   #3 (permalink)
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i've played hold em. But they could have installed bots not only to collect commission but also to take on real money.
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Old 03-07-2009, 10:08   #4 (permalink)
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I have took some 'bad beats' on betfair poker also in my time and they tend to stick in my head very well but to be honest its not really different from any other poker site.
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Old 03-07-2009, 11:12   #5 (permalink)
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even if youre playing against bots they cant pick what cards come
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Old 03-07-2009, 11:37   #6 (permalink)
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Of course they can! If I am writing a poker software I would like it to win so that I don't loose money. So my bots are internal part of the software knows all the cards on the table and can ask the dealer (who is also part of the same software) to give me cards that I need. A child can write such a program.
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Old 03-07-2009, 11:42   #7 (permalink)
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Impossible chances? I doubt it.
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Old 03-07-2009, 11:44   #8 (permalink)
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if you really think thats happening find another site to play,but no matter which site it is you will always find people who say its rigged
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Old 03-07-2009, 12:05   #9 (permalink)
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It happens all the time in poker its all fixed stay well clear.

I was in my local casino the other day and I had a full house beat by quads on the river...amazing!!!! I told the dealer get outside as you are in for a good kicking for cheating me out of my money, so she came out and kicked my arse
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Old 03-07-2009, 12:44   #10 (permalink)
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It happens all the time in poker its all fixed stay well clear.

I was in my local casino the other day and I had a full house beat by quads on the river...amazing!!!! I told the dealer get outside as you are in for a good kicking for cheating me out of my money, so she came out and kicked my arse


i had my floped full house beat by quads the other day and i was the dealer a definate fix that was
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Old 03-07-2009, 13:12   #11 (permalink)
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"It's all rigged I tell ya" but it's the same for everyone. I must say though I've never had any luck on Betfair but the players there seem very bad. So that must mean I''m fcking crap.
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Old 03-07-2009, 14:16   #12 (permalink)
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got to admit im a betfair poker player and just to back up what SteveO posted,im Fcking awefull
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Old 03-07-2009, 16:16   #13 (permalink)
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It happens all the time in poker its all fixed stay well clear.

I was in my local casino the other day and I had a full house beat by quads on the river...amazing!!!! I told the dealer get outside as you are in for a good kicking for cheating me out of my money, so she came out and kicked my arse

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Old 03-07-2009, 16:53   #14 (permalink)
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" I've never had any luck on Betfair but the players there seem very bad. So that must mean I''m fcking crap.
Glad it's not just me then!
Never won a 60/40 yet on Betfair...
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Old 03-07-2009, 17:27   #15 (permalink)
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xcode quit while you're behind.
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Old 03-07-2009, 19:18   #16 (permalink)
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Having hardly played at all for weeks I played over a couple of evenings this week on Devilfishpoker, which had been kind to me in the past, but I was getting everything busted.

It was enough for me to start withdrawal proceedings - not because I think it's fixed but because it is now fixed in my head that I'm going to lose every race and it affects my play and almost becomes self-fulfilling.

That is my choice. There are enough sites that I can easily get my fix elsewhere and no-one has to play on any site where they are not comfortable for any reason.
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Old 03-07-2009, 23:15   #17 (permalink)
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Is it just me or do people tend to remember the beats more as they feel hard done by than the hands where they river the miracle card to double up?
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Old 03-07-2009, 23:34   #18 (permalink)
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Is it just me or do people tend to remember the beats more as they feel hard done by than the hands where they river the miracle card to double up?
For sure - EVERYONE who posts bad beats on PL and says it is going against them is not being objective and accurate. They're either not remembering the hands where they suck out, or not remembering the hands where their hands hold up.

For example - if you have AA against an underpair. you're an 80% shot to win.
If you have an overpair against an underpair 4 times, you're a 60% favourite to lose at least one of them.
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Old 05-07-2009, 13:47   #19 (permalink)
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Have to agree with you Gaff there, as you know i have just taken a break and although i an now coming back albeit slowly, because i was running bad, not for one second did i think, the site is fixed.
Its just variance, we have it run for us the other way too, i have won tournys before and after thought, well my 11 year old son could have played that and still won it.
We all remember our bad beats a lot more than our hands that have held up, or the hand when we have indeed given a bad beat.
Ive played Betfair very little, but have had success when i have played there.
I always try to think, when ive had a beat, was there any way i could have avoided it, did i play it wrong.
Thats the real tell, should i have raised, did i raise enough or not?
Variance people, thats all it is, it will change and go the other way.
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Old 05-07-2009, 13:58   #20 (permalink)
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Is it just me or do people tend to remember the beats more as they feel hard done by than the hands where they river the miracle card to double up?
It's not just you but the trouble is the bad beats out weigh the miracle river card that saved me.Well maybe that's just me
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