e-sports league - CVG Poker Champions

[ubermonkey1]

thats 11p each

[SilentJay]

No idea where we stand legally with this thing, so I'll leave that up to someone else.

I got $467.45 in my account.

They paid by # of games played, if I recall correctly? In which case Fonzie and Kippe should've gotten the same, though. So I guess it's slightly (very slightly) performance based as well?

And did "marrsinn" also get something for the one game he played - or didn't play, as it were? And if so, is he gonna be willing to hand that over? (Is he even still around?)

Personally, I don't think the payout structure is all that bad. Just a little too extreme. For next season, I'd suggest maybe 25% of the prize money payed out for games played, and the rest split evenly - or something along those lines. There should be some incentive to do well and play as many games as possible. Last season, half of us suffered through virtually every game, while others got to spend their time a little more efficiently on quite a few occasions. (Although, hopefully, it won't be as bad again next season, of course.) Just a thought...

[teaulc]

Originally Posted by teaulc

teaulc $380.97
valiant $366.55
fonzie $453.04
kippe $438.62
silentjay$467.45
goater

= $1668.59 it is looking like we got SHAFTED yet again going by these figures

well marsinn has never been seen but it is not looking good

[Valiant23]

Well....I'm $366 better off than I expected.

However I'm pretty fcuked off over the fact that we were told that we'd come 2nd in the league....then, before we get paid, we are told that we'd actually won the league.

Now it turns out that we have won the league (according to the table), but we're going to get less than 2nd place money and share it with a sit out.

Of course the question is, what can we do about it?

[teaulc]

Originally Posted by Valiant23

Well....I'm $366 better off than I expected.

However I'm pretty fcuked off over the fact that we were told that we'd come 2nd in the league....then, before we get paid, we are told that we'd actually won the league.

Now it turns out that we have won the league (according to the table), but we're going to get less than 2nd place money and share it with a sit out.

Of course the question is, what can we do about it?

if you look at the main page again andy,the tables have been changed so we have been moved to 2nd again,so it does look as thought they are trying to get out of it

[Valiant23]

Okay... well even if thats the case I still think we're going to get less than we should have.

What do I do with the money I've received? I don't feel as though its mine yet.

[ColU_FC]

Originally Posted by teaulc

on a different matter i am still considering whether we should get legal advice over this shambles and lack of communication from them

Al,

Trust me on this one mate. You'll be wasting your money talking to a Solicitor. eSport aren't based in the UK so you can't use the Small Claims Court. It will cost a fortune if you try to chase them through the German courts. It's just not worth it. Far better to keep chasing them for an explanation of the final positions and how the prize money has been distributed.

[SilentJay]

Originally Posted by teaulc

teaulc $380.97
valiant $366.55
fonzie $453.04
kippe $438.62
silentjay$467.45
goater

= $1668.59 it is looking like we got SHAFTED yet again going by these figures

Umm... pretty sure you skipped one there. Should be $2106,63.

+ Goater's ~$390 = $2496,63

Prize money for 2nd place is $2710, so that leaves $213,37 for marrsinn. I, for one, would not be particularly pleased if he actually got to keep that.

[teaulc]

oops,yeah your right SJ missed one out,
there is nothing we can do until Monday when i will ring them direct and try and sort out what they have done,
how do you know what Goater got SJ????

[SilentJay]

Originally Posted by teaulc

how do you know what Goater got SJ????

Just a guess. He played one game more than you, so it should be thereabouts - give or take a couple of bucks.

I don't understand how marrsinn could end up with that much for one single game, though.

[teaulc]

Originally Posted by SilentJay

Just a guess. He played one game more than you, so it should be thereabouts - give or take a couple of bucks.

I don't understand how marrsinn could end up with that much for one single game, though.

okay from what i understand, 50% of the prize fund is split between the team members so if they are including marssin (who i did ask to get removed halfway through the league) then that is $193.57 and then on games played so 1 game equals $10.18 (only 19 games played according to them out of the 21) so that is £203.76 for someone who has never played a game
as i said i will phone them on monday now i have a phone number and see what they are going to do but tbh i aint hopeful,pissed off well and truly and i am sorry for you guys as well because i feel as captain i have failed you all.....
just to let you know obvioulsy we should have had $451.66 each not counting marssinn

right so far what we should have ended up with each (inc marssin for totals sake)and we agreed to split evenly is $387.14 so those with more than that should put the excess into the team wallet.
is that okay with you guys??
i can then transfer the appropiate funds to the relevant players...

[SilentJay]

Originally Posted by teaulc

and i am sorry for you guys as well because i feel as captain i have failed you all.....

Don't be silly. Neither a team member abandoning us, nor eSport failing to remove him after being asked to do so is your fault. I just hope they'll see sense and withdraw the money they paid him, and distribute it amongst the rest of us... as unlikely as that may seem.

[kippe6]

youve not let us down except for your maths if we are going for goater getting 390 add our six scores up share by six its $416 and cents. the other guy can sit on a sharp stick, the money he got will be long gone like he was,does that sound about right

[teaulc]

Originally Posted by kippe6

youve not let us down except for your maths if we are going for goater getting 390 add our six scores up share by six its $416 and cents. the other guy can sit on a sharp stick, the money he got will be long gone like he was,does that sound about right

let goater confirm what he got and take it from there but i am pretty sure my sums are right

[goater14]

Hi guys, sorry been away for a few days(took the wife to see Kylie but on a brighter note did wangle a day at The Open) just checked my account and I was given $395.38.

You havent failed us Al as you stated, you have done a sterling job as captain always trying to get us the best possible deal in all this fiasco

[teaulc]

Originally Posted by teaulc

teaulc $380.97
valiant $366.55
fonzie $453.04
kippe $438.62
silentjay$467.45
goater $395.38

= $2502 it is looking like we got SHAFTED yet again going by these figures

okay by my figures then marrsin got $218.18

as i said i will try ringing them today and see what happens

[teaulc]

i have spoken to Joachim on the phone with regards to Marsinn and he will get in touch with pokerroom

[Valiant23]

Nice one Al.

[teaulc]

spoke to Joachim again today,he still hasn`t spoken to Pokerroom,but says he will by the end of the week.
he doesn`t see anything wrong with the payout as his thoughts are that as Marsinn qualified for the league he is entitled to his share,now as i remember this he was put in CVG with Silentjay and myself and we didnt do anything to qualify and said this to him.
also told him that as Marsinn has never been in touch even after i emailed him and didnt contribute to anything with the team he didnt deserve any share of our winnings,his response was he will talk with his bosses.
not looking hopeful guys,

[goater14]

Hiya guys, any updates on this?
Will be withdrawing the money as soon as I know how much I need to put in the team wallet, just in case they take it all back off us