e-sports league - CVG Poker Champions

[SilentJay]

Will do, skip. My luck seems to have turned (slowly but surely) over the last couple of days. Sittin' pretty in a $1000 freeroll right now, so hopefully that'll carry over to this.

And uh... let's try to avoid any last-place finishes tonight, shall we? Top 15 score points, so that should really be the absolute minimum, considering all the sitouts...

[Valiant23]

Out in 7th.

Folded everything because I "tried to avoid any last-place finishes".

First steal I tried to make when the last of the sit outs had gone I got called by AK.

[kippe6]

4th for me

[SilentJay]

Originally Posted by Valiant23

Out in 7th.

Folded everything because I "tried to avoid any last-place finishes"

2nd for me. HUGE chip lead after having 9 sitouts at my table. But my computer decided to freeze in the HU (for the 4th friggin' time tonight), and my opponent took about half my stack by the time I got back, taking a nice chip lead himself. All-in with 66 in the end - he called it with 85 (about 1/3 of his stack)... and hit his 8, of course.

[teaulc]

1st place for me

[Fonzie14]

1st for me too....hell of a heads up with Topcat...

[kippe6]

well played chaps

[teaulc]

very well done team

[Guppie]

well done al another good h/u though i prefer the last result :-)

[SilentJay]

Wow. Well done, boys. They might as well hand the trophy over already.

I'm still pissed about that HU, though. Ruined a perfectly good evening for me. (ITM in two tourneys, going great here... and then that ending.)

[goater14]

Well done boys another good team effort.

[teaulc]

okay guys,team fo Sunday as follows.

teaulc
silentjay
goater
kippe
fonzie........

i would like to say one thing though,lets have positive support please of all the team.

good luck

[kippe6]

[Fonzie14]

No problemo Skip...

[SilentJay]

Sorry for being a bit negative towards Valiant there. Was supposed to be a strategy tip for the whole team, really, rather than criticism. (Everybody's already proven that they can play, after all.) Top 15 get points, so just try to get there before risking it all on marginal hands. (Which of course doesn't mean you have to fold everything. But maybe think twice before pulling the trigger with a pair of 5's or something. If you flop a full house - go for it.)

And to explain: I was just a little puzzled at Mr. V's actions in that game. Going all-in after 5 minutes because you're annoyed with the table (that's what it sounded like, anyway) isn't entirely acceptable in a team event in my book. (And I'm gonna stand by that. And I sincerely hope I'm not the only one who feels that way... even if I am the only one "negative" enough to say so.) That's like a football player having to cover an annoying striker, and mowing him down, getting sent off, and being glad about it. Not good.

My apologies if I rubbed you the wrong way, Valiant. No one likes to be criticized. (Including myself - which is why you all get this rather lengthy justification of my criticised comment(s) now.) But I hope you can see it from my point of view. Rest assured, I'll just keep my trap shut from now on.

[goater14]

Im available chief.

[GotaFancy?]

Originally Posted by SilentJay

Sorry for being a bit negative towards Valiant there. Was supposed to be a strategy tip for the whole team, really, rather than criticism. (Everybody's already proven that they can play, after all.) Top 15 get points, so just try to get there before risking it all on marginal hands. (Which of course doesn't mean you have to fold everything. But maybe think twice before pulling the trigger with a pair of 5's or something. If you flop a full house - go for it.)

And to explain: I was just a little puzzled at Mr. V's actions in that game. Going all-in after 5 minutes because you're annoyed with the table (that's what it sounded like, anyway) isn't entirely acceptable in a team event in my book. (And I'm gonna stand by that. And I sincerely hope I'm not the only one who feels that way... even if I am the only one "negative" enough to say so.) That's like a football player having to cover an annoying striker, and mowing him down, getting sent off, and being glad about it. Not good.

My apologies if I rubbed you the wrong way, Valiant. No one likes to be criticized. (Including myself - which is why you all get this rather lengthy justification of my criticised comment(s) now.) But I hope you can see it from my point of view. Rest assured, I'll just keep my trap shut from now on.

I've not read back through to your comments or Mr V's response - so I'm piling in completely blind here

This tournament is very very much akin to the Maxim King of Poker - it's all about getting past the sit outs - that's the first and absolutely overriding goal (IMO) - it has very little to do with poker and everything to do with patience, strategy and "awareness" of the situation.if there are 5 sit outs at the table, then every circuit has a "profit" to the available players of 7.5xBB - even if all the active players are after you and the inactive players before you, you dont need to get many of these spare blinds to be growing your stack (and the first game after I pointed this out to my team, I was eliminated for nil points )

[SilentJay]

Lol, at least someone knows where I'm coming from with this. Even if he's not on our team. Thanks, GaF.

And team - again... I'm really not trying to be negative or anthing. Just trying to maximize our (currently pretty good) chances of winning this thing. If that takes a little criticism, so be it. I realize I'm making myself unpopular with that. But someone has to do it. (And I seem to have a knack for it. I vaguely remember a similar "incident" at work. Oh well.) But if being unpopular gets me 900-something bucks in the end, I'll live with it. (And you all know what they say about nice guys, and where they tend to finish.)

But I'm all criticized out now, you'll be glad to know. Kill the sitouts; take it from there. The end.

Now, bring on Sunday! Peace out.

[Valiant23]

Well I guess its my turn now.

A player raises every single hand. What do you do? Sit back and let him build a stack and try and last longer than the sit outs, or do you play back at him when its obvious that he's just at it?

I played back at him twice. Once I was confident I was ahead pre flop he put me all in after the flop and it had missed me, so I folded and was short stacked. The second time I went all in with a suited Ace on the button. He called for a third of his stack with KJos and hit.

Most of the players I've played in these league games play similarly. They want to beat the sit outs and play 'normal' poker. This player obviously has a shit or bust strategy which must work for him. However, I'm not going to sit there and watch him raise hand after hand with shite without trying to stop him building an unassailable chip lead. If I do I may as well sit out myself.

I don't/didn't need telling that going out first was a bit daft but I don't think it will help anyone if we start questioning/criticising each others results, especially as results can be slewed by having more or less sit outs on your table. I saw that in my tournament on Wednesday when there were 2 live players on the other table and the final table started with them having huge stacks.

Saying that, I finally figured out how to find and watch other tournaments on Wednesday and I saw how everyone else did, and was especially gutted to see your connection problems SJ.

Despite that, you all did very well and I'm very lucky to be in this team. Best of luck for tomorrow.

[Fonzie14]

Well said Val and SJ.

I think we all agree that the sit-outs are extremely aggravating, but I think we are just stuck with them for this season. Hopefully next season, when the people joining the league will have paid cash to enter, there will be full participation.

As for this season, lets just knuckle down and win the damned thing....I could do with the $$$$$.

Good luck all for tomorrow.