International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 - The Punters Lounge

Billboard · 19-03-2007, 10:55

I for one love Steve McClaren...laying England pre match has become very profitable as after they run out of ideas after 3 seconds of the kick off the price goes SKY high.

My advice is lay England and back the draw....let the game drivel on for 20 minuets and then do the opposite!

urnla · 19-03-2007, 12:15

24/03	Grp D	Republic of Ireland	15:00	Wales	More »
24/03	Grp B	Scotland	15:00	Georgia	More »
24/03	Grp B	Faroe Islands	15:00	Ukraine	More »
24/03	Grp G	Luxembourg	17:00	Belarus	More »
24/03	Grp G	Albania	17:00	Slovenia	More »
24/03	Grp A	Poland	18:00	Azerbaijan	More »
24/03	Grp B	Lithuania	19:00	France	More »
24/03	Grp A	Kazakhstan	19:00	Serbia	More »
24/03	Grp C	Moldova	19:00	Malta	More »
24/03	Grp D	Cyprus	20:00	Slovakia	More »
24/03	Grp C	Norway	20:05	Bosnia-Herzegovina	More »
24/03	Grp E	Croatia	20:15	F.Y.R. Macedonia	More »
24/03	Grp F	Liechtenstein	20:15	Northern Ireland	More »
24/03	Grp G	Netherlands	20:30	Romania	More »
24/03	Grp E	Israel	20:30	England	More »
24/03	Grp E	Estonia	20:30	Russia	More »
24/03	Grp D	Czech Republic	20:45	Germany	More »
24/03	Grp A	Portugal	21:00	Belgium	More »
24/03	Grp C	Greece	21:30	Turkey	More »
24/03	Grp F	Spain	22:00	Denmark

I do apologise for the annoying MORE hyperlink, I copy-pasted from the uefa website. What do you think? Could be good for high stakes or accumulators.

Tulenos · 19-03-2007, 16:10

Albania v Slovenia (11:00 GMT)	2.90	3.25	2.25	110%
Kazakhstan v Serbia & Montenegro (13:00 GMT)	11.00	5.00	1.37	103%
Faroe Islands v Ukraine (15:00 GMT)	19.00	7.80	1.10	109%
Republic of Ireland v Wales (15:00 GMT)	1.80	3.40	5.00	105%
Scotland v Georgia (15:00 GMT)	1.44	4.30	7.50	107%
Luxembourg v Belarus (16:00 GMT)	8.50	5.00	1.37	105%
Lithuania v France (17:00 GMT)	8.50	4.00	1.50	104%
Moldova v Malta (17:00 GMT)	1.50	4.00	7.00	106%
Poland v Azerbaijan (17:00 GMT)	1.12	7.50	21.00	107%
Cyprus v Slovakia (18:00 GMT)	4.33	3.40	1.88	106%
Estonia v Russia (18:30 GMT)	6.00	3.50	1.63	107%
Israel v England (18:30 GMT)	5.00	3.25	1.86	105%
Norway v Bosnia & Herzegovina (19:05 GMT)	1.44	3.75	7.00	111%
Croatia v Macedonia (19:15 GMT)	1.35	4.50	9.00	108%
Liechtenstein v Northern Ireland (19:15 GMT)	8.50	4.00	1.45	106%
Greece v Turkey (19:30 GMT)	2.25	3.10	3.40	107%
Netherlands v Romania (19:30 GMT)	1.50	3.75	8.50	106%
Czech Republic v Germany (19:45 GMT)	2.50	3.10	3.00	106%
Portugal v Belgium (21:00 GMT)	1.50	4.00	8.50	104%
Spain v Denmark (21:00 GMT)	1.66	3.40	6.00	107%

sMRDo · 20-03-2007, 11:54

Event: Norway – Bosnia & Herzegowina

Pick: Handicap 0:1 Home Win 2,10 on bwin

Reasoning: As an Bosnian , I can not help but advice you to take this pick as granted. 10 of our key players (Bajramovic from Schalke, Spahic from Lokomotiv Moscow, Papac from Rangers, Brazzo Salihamidzic from Bayern, Barbarez from Bayer 04 etc.) are protesting and will not play for the national team as long as the whole bosnian FA including chairman, vice chairman etc resign. This is because it has beign prooved that they took fees from certain players from bosnian, croatian and other low rated leagues for making them appear in national team. One example is Berberovic who made transfer from Sarajevo to bulgarian side Litex as well as many others. There are some new players in the squad who are also there (I dont doubt it) only to be sold. Only an experienced Misimovic from Bochum and Ibisevic from Aachen will be in the starting 11. The others come from serbian or croatian league and will have debut.

I know that Norwegian side has been through a lot of problems lately, but I see this as a wonderfull chance for them to gain required morale against B&H side, that is quite incapable of making something special. I think the Norway will easily win by a 2 or even 3 or 4 goal margin, so 2,10 offered by many bookmakers is worth placing. I am still thinking if I would bet on 500 € or 1000 € on this pick. Could be worth taking a bank credit for this price.

Good luck

Tulenos · 20-03-2007, 14:38

Welcome to PL, sMRDo and good luck with your bet

sMRDo · 20-03-2007, 18:42

Cheers, I am quite sure that my first bet on this forum will win, and would be happy if you are with me with this pick.

Tulenos · 20-03-2007, 18:51

Just one thing, mate - it's not considered the best manners to talk about money and it generally means very little - some might consider your size of bet very small, others very big as there are high-rollers as well as small time punters in here. Instead, it's much better to show how confident you are, eg by the scale (10/10 I believe would read in your case) or by a point system (how many points, usually out of ten, you recommend to stake).

ZDenis · 20-03-2007, 19:38

Bosnia and Herzegovina:
Goalkeepers: Adnan Guso, Eldin Jakupovic, Romeo Mitrovic.
Defenders: Djemal Berberovic, Mirko Hrgovic, Branimir Bajic, Safet Nadarevic, Boris Pandja, Vedin Music.
Midfield: Dario Damjanovic, Zajko Zeba, Branislav Krunic, Zvjezdan Misimovic, Elvir Rahimic, Darko Maletic, Ajdin Maksumic, Mario Bojic.
Attackers: Vedad Ibisevic, Edin Djeko, Zlatan Muslimovic, Adnan Custovic, Mladen Bartolovic, Edin Pehlic, Ivan Radeljic, Admir Vladavic.

The players that wont play are: Zlatan Bajramovic, Sasa Papac, Emir Spahic, Ninoslav Milenkovic, Kenan Hasagic, Almir Tolja, Ivica Grlic, Mirsad Beslija, Elvir Bolic and Sergej Barbarez.

Norway:
Goalkeepers: Rune Jarstein, Thomas Myhre, Håkon Opda.
Defenders: Erik Hagen, Brede Hangeland, Marius Johnsen, Frode Kippe, Anders Rambekk, John Arne Riise, Jarl Andre Storbæk.
Midfield: Martin Andresen, Simen Brenne, Chrisrin Grindheim, Kristofer Hæstad, Tommy Svindal Larsen, Morten Gamst Pedersen, Fredrik Strømstad.
Attackers: John Carew, Thorstein Helstad, Daniel Fredheim Holm, Steffen Iversen, Frode Johnsen, Ole Martin Årst.

Fen4e · 21-03-2007, 08:18

Netherlands v Romania

My thoughts are that Netherlands won't have problems against Romania. Romania has too much injuries (Chivu,Tamas,F.Petre) and Netherlands only missing Edwin Van Der Sar. I think that the draw here (in Bulgaria) wasn't the right result for them (Netherlands) and they will release their best squad and won't understimate the romanian side. With players like Seedorf,Van der Vaart, Makaay, Huntelaar, Sneijder, Babel etc. they can win with handicap in Amsterdam.
Home win!(1.50)

Spain v Denmark

Another home win for me. The situation with Spain isn't good and a draw or a lose can left them in very big ? for EURO08. They can think and go on the pitch only for the win. I can't say that Denmark is a weak side or smth because they have many quality players. They showed great character against Australia when they beat them 4-1. I like situations when one team needs only win and I think that Spain can sneak it!
Spanish win!(1.65)

sMRDo · 21-03-2007, 09:42

@Fan 4e

Will be with you on Spain. But I just cant agree that Netherlands is going to win Romania by a handicap. I think that Romania shouldnt be underrestimated at all in this match.

40%g · 21-03-2007, 09:45

RE : International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03

Any advise on which match will have highest goals score and home team to win at least 2-0?

Bettoro · 21-03-2007, 10:25

Scotland - Georgia

Hello.
Dare to make my first prediction on punterslounge. As a georgian, I think I know a little more about Georgian team: Claus Topmöller has some problems in defense line, because of injury Georgia will play without captain Kakha Kaladze(Milan) and the centre of defense probably will stay on Zurab Khizanishvili(Blackburn Rovers). Other players of this position are not very strong: Eliava, Salukvadze, Gogua, Shashiashvili, Menteshashvili, Kandelaki - they all play in postsoviet(Ukraine, Latvia, Russia) and Georgian leagues, so the problem is real. The only chanse to take point(s) in Glasgo is in scoring goal(s). Situation is different here: there are really good players able to do it: one of the top scorers of Holland eredivision Shota Arveladze(Alkmaar), Aleksander Iashvili(Freiburg) is in good form also, David Mujiri(Krilia Sovetov,Russia), Levan Kobiashvili(Schalke 04) - very good in standarts. They proved that can score. In last 6 matches only once georgia left the field without a goal(0-3 against France) but scored in other 5: twice against Ukraine(3-2) and Uruguay(2-0), once against Italy(1-3) and Turkey(1-0) and 6 goals on Faroe Islands(0-6). I believe in Georgia goal in Glasgow.

So my pick is: Georgia to score 1,75 on Marathonbet 8/10

Good Luck!

danzing87 · 21-03-2007, 13:51

thinking of Israel +0.5 and Czech Republic -0.25

For Israel match, England is missing several important fullbacks and strikers. Rooney isn't that "on form" for his country and moreover, most of the first team was engaged in the FA Cup Replays. They have only half-a-week to train for this saturday's match while israel has a full week. Another plus point is that England not only has lesser time to train, they also have lesser time to gel together with some new players filling in the full back or forward position. Israel is well underestimated. They managed to hold a draw away to Russia which I believed is an achievement given the playing conditions der. England on the other hand, has been over-rated by the media. (Israel to win AH +0.5

)

Czech has almost full team to play while Germany is missing several star forward. I believe both team will fight for the top spot, hence it will be a close match but i believe the lack in firepower for Germany might prove to be a vital advantage for Czech.

nastro 1888 · 21-03-2007, 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bettoro

Scotland - Georgia

Hello.
Dare to make my first prediction on punterslounge. As a georgian, I think I know a little more about Georgian team: Claus Topmöller has some problems in defense line, because of injury Georgia will play without captain Kakha Kaladze(Milan) and the centre of defense probably will stay on Zurab Khizanishvili(Blackburn Rovers). Other players of this position are not very strong: Eliava, Salukvadze, Gogua, Shashiashvili, Menteshashvili, Kandelaki - they all play in postsoviet(Ukraine, Latvia, Russia) and Georgian leagues, so the problem is real. The only chanse to take point(s) in Glasgo is in scoring goal(s). Situation is different here: there are really good players able to do it: one of the top scorers of Holland eredivision Shota Arveladze(Alkmaar), Aleksander Iashvili(Freiburg) is in good form also, David Mujiri(Krilia Sovetov,Russia), Levan Kobiashvili(Schalke 04) - very good in standarts. They proved that can score. In last 6 matches only once georgia left the field without a goal(0-3 against France) but scored in other 5: twice against Ukraine(3-2) and Uruguay(2-0), once against Italy(1-3) and Turkey(1-0) and 6 goals on Faroe Islands(0-6). I believe in Georgia goal in Glasgo.

So my pick is: Georgia to score 1,75 on Marathonbet 8/10

Good Luck!

to the punters lounge bettoro !!

im not sure who scotland will start with up front ( scoring isnt scotlands forte !! ) but I think kenny miller will start - he cant score for love nor money for celtic ( I watch him every week !! ) he'll run all day and press defenders like not many centre-forwards are prepared to do, but hes paid to put the ball into the net and simply doesnt do it - maybe internationals relieves the pressure a bit as he been good for scotland. im looking at under 2.5 goals here - neither team are good enough to run up a large score and if either gets in front will defend the lead.

19.00 for the Faroes is a huge price - not many teams run over them up there on the bumpy pitches, might look at faroes +2 to see what odds it conjurs up.

Scotland won fairly comfortable in lithuania, cant see the french slipping up @ 1.50 - moreso after being beaten in glasgow, this is a must win game for france.

anything other than a low scoring draw will surprise me in Prague.

Fen4e · 21-03-2007, 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by sMRDo

@Fan 4e

Will be with you on Spain. But I just cant agree that Netherlands is going to win Romania by a handicap. I think that Romania shouldnt be underrestimated at all in this match.

I'm glad that I can help people with some picks and posts. Now only Spain has to win

About Netherlands - Romania I want to say that I'm not underestimating the Romanians. I just wanted to say that Romania are missing one of their key defenders and Netherlands are not a team that forgives when has opportinities and I fancy them to win. I meant that if Netherlands' players are on form they can win against every side.

Bettoro · 21-03-2007, 20:11

Thanks a lot Nastro 1888.
Agree with you in Lithuania-France, but I think it´s quite possible 3 or more Ukrainian goals on Faroe, too large difference between this two teams.

loc · 21-03-2007, 21:01

Faroe Islands - Ukraine

I think Faroe Islands aren't able to score here. On the other side, Ukraine will push more than 1 goal, so I take this bets for correct score at the end of match.
Faroe Islands - Ukraine 0:2 @6.50 (bwin)
Faroe Islands - Ukraine 0:3 @7:50
Faroe Islands - Ukraine 0:4 @10
Faroe Islands - Ukraine 0:5 @13

All for the same (3/10) stake.

Carl · 22-03-2007, 06:55

The five month wait for England's Euro 2008 game in Israel, must have felt like an eternity for England manager, Steve McClaren, desperate to make amends for last October's 2-0 Group E defeat by Croatia in Zagreb.
Unfortunately for McClaren, the Three Lions don't have an easy game to get their qualification back on track. England will travel to the Ramat Gan National Stadium as slight favourites.

Th

19-03-2007, 10:55	#1 (permalink)
Billboard BackerLayerOwnerPlayer Join Date: 22 Dec 2006 Location: Dublin Age: 31 Posts: 136	England V Isreal I for one love Steve McClaren...laying England pre match has become very profitable as after they run out of ideas after 3 seconds of the kick off the price goes SKY high. My advice is lay England and back the draw....let the game drivel on for 20 minuets and then do the opposite! __________________ "A bad day at the races is better than a good day at work"

20-03-2007, 11:54	#4 (permalink)
sMRDo Newbie Punter Join Date: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 18	Re: International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 Event: Norway – Bosnia & Herzegowina Pick: Handicap 0:1 Home Win 2,10 on bwin Reasoning: As an Bosnian , I can not help but advice you to take this pick as granted. 10 of our key players (Bajramovic from Schalke, Spahic from Lokomotiv Moscow, Papac from Rangers, Brazzo Salihamidzic from Bayern, Barbarez from Bayer 04 etc.) are protesting and will not play for the national team as long as the whole bosnian FA including chairman, vice chairman etc resign. This is because it has beign prooved that they took fees from certain players from bosnian, croatian and other low rated leagues for making them appear in national team. One example is Berberovic who made transfer from Sarajevo to bulgarian side Litex as well as many others. There are some new players in the squad who are also there (I dont doubt it) only to be sold. Only an experienced Misimovic from Bochum and Ibisevic from Aachen will be in the starting 11. The others come from serbian or croatian league and will have debut. I know that Norwegian side has been through a lot of problems lately, but I see this as a wonderfull chance for them to gain required morale against B&H side, that is quite incapable of making something special. I think the Norway will easily win by a 2 or even 3 or 4 goal margin, so 2,10 offered by many bookmakers is worth placing. I am still thinking if I would bet on 500 € or 1000 € on this pick. Could be worth taking a bank credit for this price. Good luck Last edited by sMRDo; 20-03-2007 at 11:55.

20-03-2007, 14:38	#5 (permalink)
Tulenos Bohemian NHL Punter Join Date: 02 May 2001 Location: Prague Age: 38 Posts: 11,759	Re: International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 Welcome to PL, sMRDo and good luck with your bet

20-03-2007, 18:42	#6 (permalink)
sMRDo Newbie Punter Join Date: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 18	Re: International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 Cheers, I am quite sure that my first bet on this forum will win, and would be happy if you are with me with this pick.

20-03-2007, 18:51	#7 (permalink)
Tulenos Bohemian NHL Punter Join Date: 02 May 2001 Location: Prague Age: 38 Posts: 11,759	Re: International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 Just one thing, mate - it's not considered the best manners to talk about money and it generally means very little - some might consider your size of bet very small, others very big as there are high-rollers as well as small time punters in here. Instead, it's much better to show how confident you are, eg by the scale (10/10 I believe would read in your case) or by a point system (how many points, usually out of ten, you recommend to stake).

20-03-2007, 19:38	#8 (permalink)
ZDenis Newbie Punter Join Date: 10 Sep 2006 Age: 39 Posts: 10	Re: International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 Bosnia and Herzegovina: Goalkeepers: Adnan Guso, Eldin Jakupovic, Romeo Mitrovic. Defenders: Djemal Berberovic, Mirko Hrgovic, Branimir Bajic, Safet Nadarevic, Boris Pandja, Vedin Music. Midfield: Dario Damjanovic, Zajko Zeba, Branislav Krunic, Zvjezdan Misimovic, Elvir Rahimic, Darko Maletic, Ajdin Maksumic, Mario Bojic. Attackers: Vedad Ibisevic, Edin Djeko, Zlatan Muslimovic, Adnan Custovic, Mladen Bartolovic, Edin Pehlic, Ivan Radeljic, Admir Vladavic. The players that wont play are: Zlatan Bajramovic, Sasa Papac, Emir Spahic, Ninoslav Milenkovic, Kenan Hasagic, Almir Tolja, Ivica Grlic, Mirsad Beslija, Elvir Bolic and Sergej Barbarez. Norway: Goalkeepers: Rune Jarstein, Thomas Myhre, Håkon Opda. Defenders: Erik Hagen, Brede Hangeland, Marius Johnsen, Frode Kippe, Anders Rambekk, John Arne Riise, Jarl Andre Storbæk. Midfield: Martin Andresen, Simen Brenne, Chrisrin Grindheim, Kristofer Hæstad, Tommy Svindal Larsen, Morten Gamst Pedersen, Fredrik Strømstad. Attackers: John Carew, Thorstein Helstad, Daniel Fredheim Holm, Steffen Iversen, Frode Johnsen, Ole Martin Årst.

21-03-2007, 08:18	#9 (permalink)
Fen4e The Winning Newbie Join Date: 20 Apr 2006 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 150	Re: International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 Netherlands v Romania My thoughts are that Netherlands won't have problems against Romania. Romania has too much injuries (Chivu,Tamas,F.Petre) and Netherlands only missing Edwin Van Der Sar. I think that the draw here (in Bulgaria) wasn't the right result for them (Netherlands) and they will release their best squad and won't understimate the romanian side. With players like Seedorf,Van der Vaart, Makaay, Huntelaar, Sneijder, Babel etc. they can win with handicap in Amsterdam. Home win!(1.50) Spain v Denmark Another home win for me. The situation with Spain isn't good and a draw or a lose can left them in very big ? for EURO08. They can think and go on the pitch only for the win. I can't say that Denmark is a weak side or smth because they have many quality players. They showed great character against Australia when they beat them 4-1. I like situations when one team needs only win and I think that Spain can sneak it! Spanish win!(1.65) __________________ There are no favorites, just low prices.

21-03-2007, 09:42	#10 (permalink)
sMRDo Newbie Punter Join Date: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 18	Re: International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 @Fan 4e Will be with you on Spain. But I just cant agree that Netherlands is going to win Romania by a handicap. I think that Romania shouldnt be underrestimated at all in this match.

21-03-2007, 09:45	#11 (permalink)
40%g Newbie Punter Join Date: 13 Mar 2007 Location: Asia Posts: 4	Re: International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 RE : International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 Any advise on which match will have highest goals score and home team to win at least 2-0?

21-03-2007, 10:25	#12 (permalink)
Bettoro Geo Punter Join Date: 19 Mar 2007 Location: Tbilisi Age: 28 Posts: 51	Re: International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 Scotland - Georgia Hello. Dare to make my first prediction on punterslounge. As a georgian, I think I know a little more about Georgian team: Claus Topmöller has some problems in defense line, because of injury Georgia will play without captain Kakha Kaladze(Milan) and the centre of defense probably will stay on Zurab Khizanishvili(Blackburn Rovers). Other players of this position are not very strong: Eliava, Salukvadze, Gogua, Shashiashvili, Menteshashvili, Kandelaki - they all play in postsoviet(Ukraine, Latvia, Russia) and Georgian leagues, so the problem is real. The only chanse to take point(s) in Glasgo is in scoring goal(s). Situation is different here: there are really good players able to do it: one of the top scorers of Holland eredivision Shota Arveladze(Alkmaar), Aleksander Iashvili(Freiburg) is in good form also, David Mujiri(Krilia Sovetov,Russia), Levan Kobiashvili(Schalke 04) - very good in standarts. They proved that can score. In last 6 matches only once georgia left the field without a goal(0-3 against France) but scored in other 5: twice against Ukraine(3-2) and Uruguay(2-0), once against Italy(1-3) and Turkey(1-0) and 6 goals on Faroe Islands(0-6). I believe in Georgia goal in Glasgow. So my pick is: Georgia to score 1,75 on Marathonbet 8/10 Good Luck! Last edited by Bettoro; 21-03-2007 at 20:13.

21-03-2007, 13:51	#13 (permalink)
danzing87 Newbie Punter Join Date: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 10	Re: International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 thinking of Israel +0.5 and Czech Republic -0.25 For Israel match, England is missing several important fullbacks and strikers. Rooney isn't that "on form" for his country and moreover, most of the first team was engaged in the FA Cup Replays. They have only half-a-week to train for this saturday's match while israel has a full week. Another plus point is that England not only has lesser time to train, they also have lesser time to gel together with some new players filling in the full back or forward position. Israel is well underestimated. They managed to hold a draw away to Russia which I believed is an achievement given the playing conditions der. England on the other hand, has been over-rated by the media. (Israel to win AH +0.5 ) Czech has almost full team to play while Germany is missing several star forward. I believe both team will fight for the top spot, hence it will be a close match but i believe the lack in firepower for Germany might prove to be a vital advantage for Czech.

21-03-2007, 20:11	#16 (permalink)
Bettoro Geo Punter Join Date: 19 Mar 2007 Location: Tbilisi Age: 28 Posts: 51	Re: International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 Thanks a lot Nastro 1888. Agree with you in Lithuania-France, but I think it´s quite possible 3 or more Ukrainian goals on Faroe, too large difference between this two teams. Last edited by Bettoro; 21-03-2007 at 20:21.

21-03-2007, 21:01	#17 (permalink)
loc Newbie Punter Join Date: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 10	Re: International: UEFA 2008 qualifyers, 24/03 Faroe Islands - Ukraine I think Faroe Islands aren't able to score here. On the other side, Ukraine will push more than 1 goal, so I take this bets for correct score at the end of match. Faroe Islands - Ukraine 0:2 @6.50 (bwin) Faroe Islands - Ukraine 0:3 @7:50 Faroe Islands - Ukraine 0:4 @10 Faroe Islands - Ukraine 0:5 @13 All for the same (3/10) stake. Last edited by loc; 21-03-2007 at 21:02.