Euro 2008 Qualifiers (Oct 11th) - The Punters Lounge

davidmphill · 08-10-2006, 10:30

Wednesday 11 October 2006
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Andorra v Macedonia (14:00 BST)	15.50	5.00	1.32	103%
Russia v Estonia (16:00 BST)	1.24	5.75	15.00	105%
Belarus v Slovenia (17:00 BST)	2.60	3.20	2.80	106%
Kazakhstan v Finland (17:00 BST)	7.00	3.75	1.68	101%
Croatia v England (18:00 BST)	3.35	3.20	2.58	100%
Ukraine v Scotland (18:00 BST)	1.75	3.65	5.70	103%
Malta v Hungary (18:15 BST)	10.00	4.50	1.38	105%
Georgia v Italy (19:00 BST)	9.50	4.20	1.38	107%
Turkey v Moldova (19:00 BST)	1.22	7.00	15.00	103%
Iceland v Sweden (19:05 BST)	6.80	4.00	1.55	105%
Bosnia & Herzegovina v Greece (19:15 BST)	3.25	3.20	2.37	105%
Liechtenstein v Denmark (19:15 BST)	25.00	10.50	1.14	102%
Luxembourg v Bulgaria (19:15 BST)	21.00	7.50	1.13	107%
Serbia & Montenegro v Armenia (19:15 BST)	1.14	7.00	29.00	106%
Netherlands v Albania (19:30 BST)	1.10	9.20	26.00	106%
Poland v Portugal (19:30 BST)	4.10	3.20	2.25	101%
Republic of Ireland v Czech Republic (19:30 BST)	4.00	3.35	2.20	101%
Belgium v Azerbaijan (19:45 BST)	1.15	7.20	15.50	108%
France v Faroe Islands (20:00 BST)	1.02	34.00	81.00	103%
Northern Ireland v Latvia (20:00 BST)	2.22	3.40	3.60	103%
Wales v Cyprus (20:00 BST)	1.64	4.10	6.40	101%

davidmphill · 08-10-2006, 10:32

Initial thought.
Wales at 1.5 with bet365, no thanks!
Cyprus at 6.4 betfair, er yes please!

After the sides contrasting results on Saturday you can't back Wales with confidence in this match.

fenlandtiger · 08-10-2006, 14:46

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Originally Posted by davidmphill

Initial thought.
Wales at 1.5 with bet365, no thanks!
Cyprus at 6.4 betfair, er yes please!

After the sides contrasting results on Saturday you can't back Wales with confidence in this match.

Agree with you on that davidmphill. Thanks for sharing the info.

I would have expected Wales to be priced around 2.5 for this game. I guess the Betfair odds largely reflects the market before yesterdays game.

Clearly, Cyprus are not international "minnows" anymore. They got an excellent result against the Republic of Ireland and look to have an effective attack. Five goals against the Republic was amazing, and although I only saw the highlights on Match of the Day, the finishing was of a good standard.

As for the Welsh, they were poor in defence against Slovakia. Former Welsh striker legend Dean Saunders commentating on Five Live radio was described the Slovakia attack as going through the Welsh defence at will "like a knife through butter".... Just heard Toshack on the radio saying that after a while Wales were running around with no idea like chickens. He also said that they had absolutely no end product in attack. That'll boost his teams morale then (NOT), especially with such a large number of teenagers in the team. Wales main star Welsh captain Bellamy (Liverpool) is appearing in court on Tuesday charged with assault. Not the ideal preperation. Apparently Hartson may be un-retiring from international football which would give them a boost. I reckon Wales could do with Robbie Savage back!

No doubt the Welsh team will be drilling the defence in the run up to the game, and they'd obviously hope to tighten things up. But morale is probably not the best in the Welsh camp now, which may make the defensive unit error prone in the next game. It would not be a surprise to see Cyprus get something out of this game. At these prices, I'll be laying Wales.

FT

TheKing · 08-10-2006, 14:47

Agree David, also the Czeh Republic looks massive against Ireland, the Czeh's hammered San Marino 7-0 , while Ireland .........well we all know what they did....

Tulenos · 08-10-2006, 17:10

2.20 @ Betfred for a Czech victory looks very good value indeed, although I'm always hesitant to bet on our national team's matches - the result against San MArino says nothing, just that the team is doing OK and still full of confidence after two good results earlier. They are in the driving seat in the group together with Germany as all other would-be contenders have already lost some of important matches. A visit from the Czech Rep. just after being well beaten at Cyprus might prove the right nightmare for Ireland.

Also can't see why Wales (still with a lot of missing first-teamers) are such favourites in their match.

Also

friskyfitz · 08-10-2006, 22:12

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Originally Posted by Tulenos

2.20 @ Betfred for a Czech victory looks very good value indeed,

2.20!!!!

Thats unreal!!!............ I'll be thumping that if its still there first thing tomorrow

TheKing · 08-10-2006, 22:33

Czech Repupblic 2.15 TAKEN

Can't wait for wendsday to cash in...

Tulenos · 08-10-2006, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by friskyfitz

2.20!!!!

Thats unreal!!!............ I'll be thumping that if its still there first thing tomorrow

They even pushed CR out to 2.25 now - have just checked the website

aliando · 08-10-2006, 22:43

word of warning - any team embarressed on satday will be dieing to avenge the result on wednesday.

wales - shocking result and they must be questioning themselves. I have never rated toshack and, for me, he is a stop gap between decent welsh sides. We have home advantage and, as said above, we all know how cyprus did on satday. I think we'll gget a small home win but would not take odds lower than evens without question. I'd be looking for more 2.25. No bet.

ROI - not a mug nation and before everyone jumps on the czech bandwagon, they themselves have not been firing on all cylinders - they are not quite the team we expect now and Wales were unlucky to lose there only a few weeks back - 7-0 v san marino is something that should be expected, not wowed upon. the draw seems good value here.

early thoughts would be to lay croatia as england will not want to lose, even if they cannot muster the win, lay scotland as the ukraines will up their game now and they are not an easy side to play especially away and lay northern ireland who seem to prefer being underdogs - and the press are already on sanchez's back.....

Tulenos · 08-10-2006, 22:56

Ehm... I'm not as patriotic to be jumping with fury, but the "old" story of poor CR - can you enlighten me how three wins in a row (Wales, Slovakia away, San Marino, only the Wales result was close) can be called "not firing on all cylinders"? The loss before was in a friendly and moreover in the one which was Nedved's farewell game and thus no-one visibly concentrated on it (with a party in mind???). This is also a (slighly, but anyway) revamped Czech team which put behind them the disaster of a performance @ the WC. So, everything put together, we are talking about a team with no loss so far playing a team (ROI) without their by far first choice keeper just after suffering an embarrasing defeat @ Cyprus - they might fight back for sure.

How CR were lucky not to lose to Wales? - the score went 1-0, 1-1 (o.g.), 2-1 - OK Bellamy was 1-1 with Cech but didn't score, the Czechs were also a few times unlucky on the other side.
The crucial omission in your post was the Slovakia game, sure the most impressive performance by the Czechs since the USA game. San Marino result was expected and happened

JERRYDRAKE · 09-10-2006, 00:02

GEORGIA v ITALY

In the Group B of the qualifying to EURO 2008 Italy looks for the second win in Georgia. The national team coached by Roberto Donadoni drew in Naples against Lithuania (1-1), lost in Paris (1-3) and won against Ukraine in Rome (2-0). Georgia won away against Faroe Islands (6-0) and lost the other two games played (at home against France, 0-3 and away against Ukraine, 2-3). Four teams will try to qualify: Italy, France, Scotland and Ukraine while Lithuania and Georgia can only fight for the fourth place. In Georgia the World Champions are obliged to win again before concentrating completely in the Italian championship until March (Italy v Scotland) and June (Faroer Islands v Italy and Lithuania v Italy). Far to be the solid and athletic fit team we saw in Germany, the Italian team has at least succeeded to interrupt the series of negative results held since the triunph of Berlin. The defense has played well against Ukraine and the only change in Tbilisi will be Nesta to take the place of Materazzi. Toni has scored a magnific goal last Saturday and with the help of Del Piero (or Di Natale) he can score again also in Georgia. The midfield has to improve as in the last game the decision to play with three forwarders (Toni, Del Piero, Iaquinta) has made their work much harder than expected. Perrotta will substitute Gattuso and the midfield will be probably composed by Camoranesi, Pirlo, De Rossi and Perrotta. The time of experiments has been interrupted by Donadoni and with the return of almost all the world champions Italy should have no particular problems in Georgia. Pick: Italy (EH-1)

JERRYDRAKE · 09-10-2006, 00:28

ANDORRA v MACEDONIA

Sometimes the national teams of small countries succeed in suffering only few goals. This is not the case of Andorra: 0-5 in England, 1-4 in Israel and 0-7 in Croatia. Macedonia on the other side has already surprised us by winning in Estonia (1-0) and obtaining one point in the two games played against England (0-1 at home, 0-0 in England). The goalkeeper of Macedonia, Nikolovski has been the heroe of Manchester but we should not forget that his team can also count on one famous International player such as Goran Pandev (player of Lazio). The self-confidence gained in England can permit Macedonia to attack and try to compete with Croatia and Russia (1-1 against Israel) for the qualifying. They are not oblige, nobody expect them to qualify but I am sure that Macedonia will do his best in Andorra and will then wait for the next surprisingly step to reach. The number of goals suffered by Andorra (16 goals in 3 games) leaves no room for doubts, the option “over 2.5 goals” has to be taken. Pick: Over 2.5 goals

ksk1912 · 09-10-2006, 02:02

Georgia v Italy away win. Win its a must here for italy.

Iceland v Sweden away win. If Sweden win then they are 60% qualify.

Slowakei v Germany away win. German will take the revenge last year 2:0 and they are strong enough to take it.

maeatro · 09-10-2006, 07:07

Belarus-Slovenija
I see a big value on a home win.Slovenja was bad against Luxenburg,the players are unprepaird and the coach is very bad.Atmosfere around Slovenian team is very bad soo Belarus(0) is for me a big value.

maeatro · 09-10-2006, 08:34

Andorra-Macedonija
Macedonija is not a surprise for me,they heve good players and the best coach.Macedonija is good and will be good against better teams(on paper).When Srecko was a coach of Slovenian team he never won by 3 goals so i am not sure about ah -1.75.
Croatia-Eangland
For me value is on Croatia dnb.Croatia with new coach is playin much better and the players will give 120% to make good result.The stadium will be full of fanatic Croats and for me it will be difficult for England to take 3 points from zagreb

godmato · 09-10-2006, 08:45

Not so confident with the Czech Republic on Ireland so i will stick with an AH 0 @ 1.45 for away side. The Czech had show inconsistency in the game against Serbia M (i think) when they lost at home after leading 1-0 from the first minutes. And i know Ireland will be strong at home...So 1@45 AH 0 on Czech will do

08-10-2006, 10:32	#2 (permalink)
davidmphill 260408 Join Date: 09 Feb 2005 Location: Colorado. Age: 36 Posts: 22,474 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Re: Euro 2008 Qualifiers (Oct 11th) Initial thought. Wales at 1.5 with bet365, no thanks! Cyprus at 6.4 betfair, er yes please! After the sides contrasting results on Saturday you can't back Wales with confidence in this match. __________________ Gwlad, gwlad, pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad, Tra mor yn fur i'r bur hoff bau, O bydded i'r heniaith barhau.

08-10-2006, 14:47	#4 (permalink)
TheKing Shrewdie Punter Join Date: 21 Jun 2006 Location: Romania Posts: 702	Re: Euro 2008 Qualifiers (Oct 11th) Agree David, also the Czeh Republic looks massive against Ireland, the Czeh's hammered San Marino 7-0 , while Ireland .........well we all know what they did.... __________________ Howay the lads!!!!!!

08-10-2006, 17:10	#5 (permalink)
Tulenos Bohemian NHL Punter Join Date: 02 May 2001 Location: Prague Age: 38 Posts: 11,766	Re: Euro 2008 Qualifiers (Oct 11th) 2.20 @ Betfred for a Czech victory looks very good value indeed, although I'm always hesitant to bet on our national team's matches - the result against San MArino says nothing, just that the team is doing OK and still full of confidence after two good results earlier. They are in the driving seat in the group together with Germany as all other would-be contenders have already lost some of important matches. A visit from the Czech Rep. just after being well beaten at Cyprus might prove the right nightmare for Ireland. Also can't see why Wales (still with a lot of missing first-teamers) are such favourites in their match. Also

08-10-2006, 22:33	#7 (permalink)
TheKing Shrewdie Punter Join Date: 21 Jun 2006 Location: Romania Posts: 702	Re: Euro 2008 Qualifiers (Oct 11th) Czech Repupblic 2.15 TAKEN Can't wait for wendsday to cash in... __________________ Howay the lads!!!!!!

08-10-2006, 22:56	#10 (permalink)
Tulenos Bohemian NHL Punter Join Date: 02 May 2001 Location: Prague Age: 38 Posts: 11,766	Re: Euro 2008 Qualifiers (Oct 11th) Ehm... I'm not as patriotic to be jumping with fury, but the "old" story of poor CR - can you enlighten me how three wins in a row (Wales, Slovakia away, San Marino, only the Wales result was close) can be called "not firing on all cylinders"? The loss before was in a friendly and moreover in the one which was Nedved's farewell game and thus no-one visibly concentrated on it (with a party in mind???). This is also a (slighly, but anyway) revamped Czech team which put behind them the disaster of a performance @ the WC. So, everything put together, we are talking about a team with no loss so far playing a team (ROI) without their by far first choice keeper just after suffering an embarrasing defeat @ Cyprus - they might fight back for sure. How CR were lucky not to lose to Wales? - the score went 1-0, 1-1 (o.g.), 2-1 - OK Bellamy was 1-1 with Cech but didn't score, the Czechs were also a few times unlucky on the other side. The crucial omission in your post was the Slovakia game, sure the most impressive performance by the Czechs since the USA game. San Marino result was expected and happened

09-10-2006, 00:02	#11 (permalink)
JERRYDRAKE Senior Punter Join Date: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 188	Re: Euro 2008 Qualifiers (Oct 11th) GEORGIA v ITALY In the Group B of the qualifying to EURO 2008 Italy looks for the second win in Georgia. The national team coached by Roberto Donadoni drew in Naples against Lithuania (1-1), lost in Paris (1-3) and won against Ukraine in Rome (2-0). Georgia won away against Faroe Islands (6-0) and lost the other two games played (at home against France, 0-3 and away against Ukraine, 2-3). Four teams will try to qualify: Italy, France, Scotland and Ukraine while Lithuania and Georgia can only fight for the fourth place. In Georgia the World Champions are obliged to win again before concentrating completely in the Italian championship until March (Italy v Scotland) and June (Faroer Islands v Italy and Lithuania v Italy). Far to be the solid and athletic fit team we saw in Germany, the Italian team has at least succeeded to interrupt the series of negative results held since the triunph of Berlin. The defense has played well against Ukraine and the only change in Tbilisi will be Nesta to take the place of Materazzi. Toni has scored a magnific goal last Saturday and with the help of Del Piero (or Di Natale) he can score again also in Georgia. The midfield has to improve as in the last game the decision to play with three forwarders (Toni, Del Piero, Iaquinta) has made their work much harder than expected. Perrotta will substitute Gattuso and the midfield will be probably composed by Camoranesi, Pirlo, De Rossi and Perrotta. The time of experiments has been interrupted by Donadoni and with the return of almost all the world champions Italy should have no particular problems in Georgia. Pick: Italy (EH-1)

09-10-2006, 00:28	#12 (permalink)
JERRYDRAKE Senior Punter Join Date: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 188	Re: Euro 2008 Qualifiers (Oct 11th) ANDORRA v MACEDONIA Sometimes the national teams of small countries succeed in suffering only few goals. This is not the case of Andorra: 0-5 in England, 1-4 in Israel and 0-7 in Croatia. Macedonia on the other side has already surprised us by winning in Estonia (1-0) and obtaining one point in the two games played against England (0-1 at home, 0-0 in England). The goalkeeper of Macedonia, Nikolovski has been the heroe of Manchester but we should not forget that his team can also count on one famous International player such as Goran Pandev (player of Lazio). The self-confidence gained in England can permit Macedonia to attack and try to compete with Croatia and Russia (1-1 against Israel) for the qualifying. They are not oblige, nobody expect them to qualify but I am sure that Macedonia will do his best in Andorra and will then wait for the next surprisingly step to reach. The number of goals suffered by Andorra (16 goals in 3 games) leaves no room for doubts, the option “over 2.5 goals” has to be taken. Pick: Over 2.5 goals

09-10-2006, 02:02	#13 (permalink)
ksk1912 Shrewdie Punter Join Date: 17 Apr 2006 Location: İzmir Posts: 601	Re: Euro 2008 Qualifiers (Oct 11th) Georgia v Italy away win. Win its a must here for italy. Iceland v Sweden away win. If Sweden win then they are 60% qualify. Slowakei v Germany away win. German will take the revenge last year 2:0 and they are strong enough to take it. __________________ ksk1912

09-10-2006, 07:07	#14 (permalink)
maeatro Junior Punter Join Date: 27 May 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 56	Re: Euro 2008 Qualifiers (Oct 11th) Belarus-Slovenija I see a big value on a home win.Slovenja was bad against Luxenburg,the players are unprepaird and the coach is very bad.Atmosfere around Slovenian team is very bad soo Belarus(0) is for me a big value.

09-10-2006, 08:34	#15 (permalink)
maeatro Junior Punter Join Date: 27 May 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 56	Re: Euro 2008 Qualifiers (Oct 11th) Andorra-Macedonija Macedonija is not a surprise for me,they heve good players and the best coach.Macedonija is good and will be good against better teams(on paper).When Srecko was a coach of Slovenian team he never won by 3 goals so i am not sure about ah -1.75. Croatia-Eangland For me value is on Croatia dnb.Croatia with new coach is playin much better and the players will give 120% to make good result.The stadium will be full of fanatic Croats and for me it will be difficult for England to take 3 points from zagreb

09-10-2006, 08:45	#16 (permalink)
godmato Legendary Punter Join Date: 19 Sep 2006 Location: Romania, Bucuresti Posts: 1,370	Re: Euro 2008 Qualifiers (Oct 11th) Not so confident with the Czech Republic on Ireland so i will stick with an AH 0 @ 1.45 for away side. The Czech had show inconsistency in the game against Serbia M (i think) when they lost at home after leading 1-0 from the first minutes. And i know Ireland will be strong at home...So 1@45 AH 0 on Czech will do __________________ Peace sells, but who's buying?