Euro 2008 Group E Mar 28

[aliando]

Israel v Estonia (18:00 BST)

1.40

4.50

10.00

104%

Andorra v England (20:00 BST)

81.00

32.00

1.04

101%

[deeloughran]

I know England will win due to Andorra being pretty much one of the worst teams in the world BUT i fancy england not to go as mad as they did last time (5-0) with reading their player's talks about how hyped up they are to not concede as much so i see lots of defending which England find it hard to break teams like this down (Israel playing a defensive 4-5-1) so i think any handicap of 3 or more at reasonable odds looks very good!
Skybet have Andorra +4 at 5/4!! i would DEFINATELY take this!!!

[nastro 1888]

Originally Posted by deeloughran

Skybet have Andorra +4 at 5/4!! i would DEFINATELY take this!!!

what price are england then dee ? I think the English are going to run up a cricket score IMO

it maybe a false sense of security for them, but the nou camp is a big playing surface and I can see a 0-5 or 0-6 midweek.

[Robijas]

England, England, England...that is just name....it is better to skip this team..I can not value in this team...Currently best bet can be that England will not qualify and odds for that must be great..Croatia trashed them in Croatia so confortable take draw in England. I will advantage in this group to Russia over England. Croatia will finish first of course coz in every game they give thair maximum...

[spgore]

I think a correct score holds value in the Andorra-England game, so I will have to disagree with you Robijas. I can not see Andorra scoring against England, but can see the English getting 3+ goals:

Betfair currently have:

England 3-0 @ 6.6
Any unquoted @ 1.78

The later is good value as it covers the 4-0+ correct scores. England know they have to give a good performance on Wednesday, especially with the group being so tight. An England victory looks on the cards, but the question is by how many goals?

[deeloughran]

Originally Posted by nastro 1888

what price are england then dee ?.

Using Paddypower you can get England -4 at 7/5 but where can you see the goals coming from? Rooney never lives up to his name on the big stage (I myself a United supporter) while Gerrard and Lampard haven't scored in a long time for England with them being forced to play uncomfortably out of position and Mc Claren forcing them to keep a defensive mind on whereas at club level they get a free role to do just about what they wish which is where you get them playing freely and doing what their best at, changing a match!

[Robijas]

spgore my friend i didnt tell you that Andorra will score..
I didnt tell anything about that game..All already calculated three points to England here..It is just question of number of goals here..After 0-2 in Zagreb and 0-0 in Isreal, England team can be very efective here (finally against Andorra ) and score some goals..Remember San Marino-Germany 0-13...Something same can be heppened here...

[spgore]

Originally Posted by Robijas

spgore my friend i didnt tell you that Andorra will score..
I didnt tell anything about that game..All already calculated three points to England here..It is just question of number of goals here..After 0-2 in Zagreb and 0-0 in Isreal, England team can be very efective here (finally against Andorra ) and score some goals..Remember San Marino-Germany 0-13...Something same can be heppened here...

Full agree with this. England DO need a performance, and I can see a high scoring game here. The players need to give a cracking game to the fans, especially after the awful recent performances.

I think any unquoted score @ 1.78 is worth a punt.

[Youssef]

Agree completely with Spgore regarding England, but I'm going to lace a bet on the exact score of 4-0 and that's it.

This is a personal feeling. On Friday I analysed Egypt V Mouritania (CAN 2008 Qualifiers) and deduced it should be Egypt -3. Pinnacle then offerd that exact line & Egypt won 3-0.

I analysed England V Andorra and thought it should be England -4. Again I find offering this very line, so I thought a small punt on 4-0 would b worth it.

My problem on wednesday games is there are way too many "no contest" games, hence -as expected- way too many short prices for the 1X2 (outright win) lines.

Few games offer value on the handicaps as well, so nothing's worth the time spent on write-ups nor analysis.

[nastro 1888]

Originally Posted by deeloughran

Using Paddypower you can get England -4 at 7/5 but where can you see the goals coming from? Rooney never lives up to his name on the big stage (I myself a United supporter) while Gerrard and Lampard haven't scored in a long time for England with them being forced to play uncomfortably out of position and Mc Claren forcing them to keep a defensive mind on whereas at club level they get a free role to do just about what they wish which is where you get them playing freely and doing what their best at, changing a match!

I see what your saying lee but not one of the Andorra players would get into Englands 24 man squad let alone a starting place - big wide park, likely around 99% of the support and England in dire need of not just a win but an emphatic one IMO - I might take a wee shot at that 7/5, I can see a 0-5 or more on wednesday.

[888]

Originally Posted by deeloughran

Using Paddypower you can get England -4 at 7/5 but where can you see the goals coming from? Rooney never lives up to his name on the big stage (I myself a United supporter) while Gerrard and Lampard haven't scored in a long time for England with them being forced to play uncomfortably out of position and Mc Claren forcing them to keep a defensive mind on whereas at club level they get a free role to do just about what they wish which is where you get them playing freely and doing what their best at, changing a match!

Add to that, why is Lennon playing on the left ? He would be far more efficient if he plays on the right flank...

[DJ SOSNA]

Originally Posted by deeloughran

Rooney never lives up to his name on the big stage !

Personally, I see Rooney to score a few goals on Wednesday, especially after so much crtiticism's came down on him lately. I found the best odds on Rooney to score @1.65 - if u see any better price please tell me. Come on Rooney, Come on!

[DJ]

Originally Posted by 888

Add to that, why is Lennon playing on the left ? He would be far more efficient if he plays on the right flank...

Mclaren doesn't seem to want to drop Lampard and so that forces Gerrard to the right. Lennon has played at times for Spurs on the left wing due to lack of recognised left winger there too. Naturally Mclaren presumed Lennon could be good on left for England. So playing yet another player out of position trying to find an overall balance for England.

So many questions revolve around England selection; why wasn't Barry involved as the natural left back and coming off the back of a good season? Why is so much expectancy placed on Rooney to score? This season has proved that Rooney has a general high performance but that he scores eratically.

If we had a natural goalscorer like Shearer or Lineker were for England then maybe we would have won against Israel. I feel that as well as anything else is a big factor missing from our team. Think we should turn back to Crouch as he has the best recent International scoring record and hell right now we need the goals!

[Nade]

Originally Posted by nastro 1888

what price are england then dee ? I think the English are going to run up a cricket score IMO

it maybe a false sense of security for them, but the nou camp is a big playing surface and I can see a 0-5 or 0-6 midweek.

Hi all, been looking at the site for a while, great site, but this has prompted me into action!

I'm fairly certain that the England match is being played at Espanyol's stadium and not the Nou Camp which i assume is smaller so Andorra could compact the play more.

Personally i will probably also go for overs or HT/FT, but i haven't had a proper look yet and need to go out, so will post back later.

[Nade]

I've decided against going for the overs in the England game as we all know they're not in great form and i don't stake too much which is what you'd need to do to get a good profit.

Instead i'm seeing value in over 5corners in the first half at 11-10 as England will definitely be looking to stamp their authority in the first half, but that's it on this match.

[nastro 1888]

Originally Posted by Nade

I'm fairly certain that the England match is being played at Espanyol's stadium and not the Nou Camp

good call m8, I just heard Barca and assumed the Nou Camp

[Bettoro]

Originally Posted by Nade

Hi all, been looking at the site for a while, great site, but this has prompted me into action!...

Nade
Good luck.

[christo85efc]

Andy Johnson ATS @ 1.57 - Massive fan of johnson myself (obviously because he plays for everton) but he does a lot of running, where sometimes he doesnt get credit for, he'll go into those channels all day, which will drag players out and leave holes in the defence, something which will help my next bet, which is Fat Frank ATS. I hope Johnson gets his chance, he'll be on that last man, waiting for those through balls and i believe he will bag one or two tonight.

Fat Frank Lampard ATS @ 2.10 - Now thats value on frank, i hate the player myself, but he will start despite rumours that mclaren may drop him, the england manager doesnt have the balls to drop a big name or even bring him off in a match!! Free kick taker aswell as PK taker still i think?

Time of first goal - Up To And Including 18th Minute @ 1.83 - The manager has got to give them a fierce team talk, they have to be really up for it and firing on all cyclinders from the off after the disappointing 0-0 draw against Israel. And for this i expect england to get goin straight away and get an early goal, bet365 has put the line at 18mins, now if england (or Andorra ) don't score before then i will be muchly angry and throwing my tv on the floor!

First team card - Andorra @ 1.44 - Another bet which is highly likely, i expect possession to be similar to the Israel game (72-28%), even more so in this one, england should rarely be without the ball, and in that case it seems likely that Andorra will be putting in all the challenges and hopefully fouls. The only danger to this bet is frustration on englands part, if they dont find that early goal, anmd more and more minutes tick over, then there could be a loose challenge flying in, however it is more likely that Andorra get their first chasing the ball!

GL all!

[happygooner]

Originally Posted by christo85efc

Fat Frank Lampard ATS @ 2.10 - Now thats value on frank, i hate the player myself, but he will start despite rumours that mclaren may drop him, the england manager doesnt have the balls to drop a big name or even bring him off in a match!! Free kick taker aswell as PK taker still i think?

FAT FRANK NOW OUT!

Help or hinderence to England?!?

[thetwotwins]

Originally Posted by Nade

Hi all, been looking at the site for a while, great site, but this has prompted me into action!

I'm fairly certain that the England match is being played at Espanyol's stadium and not the Nou Camp which i assume is smaller so Andorra could compact the play more.

Personally i will probably also go for overs or HT/FT, but i haven't had a proper look yet and need to go out, so will post back later.

Stadium information

• Name - Camp Nou
• City - Barcelona
• Capacity - 98,787
• Inauguration - 1957
• Pitch size - 105 x 68 metres

Stadium Information

• Name - Estadi Olímpic Lluís Companys
• City - Barcelona
• Capacity - 55,000
• Inauguration - 1944
• Pitch size - 105 x 67 mts.
• Other Facilities: - CD Sant Adrià

so, you were right then Nade!