Copa America 2007

[RigoCL]

As a chilean, I must say that our team has plenty of talent and good game. But it is our coach the main reason to not be able to pick some wins.

The first half against Ecuador was awful, really awful, again... due our starting lineup. But, in the 2nd half the picture changed dramatically with Riffo and Villanueva (3rd goal).

Now, finally Acosta (DT) will starts with our best possible line-up, so it will be no easy task for Brazil.


Now, brazilian team (except Robinho), don't have that magic that we use to see on them. Of course is not weak at all, and yes, they had a little of bad luck against Mexico, and we all expect them to show their truly strenght against Chile.

Still, Chile has enough power to take that match, or at least a draw.

But, hey... Brazil is Brazil. They can easily beat us 4-0 and all previous thoughts will be crap.

What I'm telling is that this match looks like an OVER, and Chile fighting the first half mano a mano. The 2nd half will be a whole different story and if Chilean players can keep the rythm, it could be a surprising draw.

Cheers.

[AaronX]

Originally Posted by meatman

I nearly took Bolivia +1 but in the end there probably just isn't enough value. Uruguay lost 0-3 against Peru but I dont think they are that bad a team to be honest. Peru were very impressive against them and Bolivia wont be as tough a challenge. It's a tough one IMO and I wouldnt be surprised to see Uruguay win by just a 1 goal margin, not a match I will bet on personally.

I'm very tempted by the 1X2 odds of Bolivia. Might be betting a small amount to try my luck. This will be a very close match i think.

[addy13]

Peeps,

Not long to go for the kickoffs,

I;ve got a few on tonight...

Vicente Sanchez and Estoyanoff of uruguay look sweet value for goalscorers, they are impressive players, Forlan looks to be thinking hes by shooting from everywhere he recieves the ball on the pitch and wasting posession!

I can see Uruguay being so desperate to win that boils over and leads to a sending off during the game!

In regards to the Peruvian boys, i did tip the Mexicans, Peruvians and Argies to top their group and if he plays i can see Mendoza causing problems, he's very alike to Drogba but left footed!

Lets not forget its held in Venezuela obviously the players will feel a great deal of pressure, but come on, not to cause offence but they dont really have the ability nor the players with the heads to know how to face that, I can see Peru possibly winning both halves at 9/1 on BET365.

Peru to win by 2 more more goals (11/2 - BET365) is also very good value

I must admitt the peruvians were majorly under-estimated by the bookies!

Come on

[jackierubberleg]

Originally Posted by AaronX

I'm very tempted by the 1X2 odds of Bolivia. Might be betting a small amount to try my luck. This will be a very close match i think.

Here Here Aaron. I am backing Bolivia straight and +1 on the asian as a cover. Their recent record is a lot better than Uraguay.
to the lounge Aaron.

[bevoaustintx]

Rojas Out For Vene, Come On Peru

[addy13]

nt a good day, was made up with vicente sanchez scoring, just slightly up, pablo garcia of peru lost everything for them peruvians

[AaronX]

Originally Posted by meatman

I nearly took Bolivia +1 but in the end there probably just isn't enough value. Uruguay lost 0-3 against Peru but I dont think they are that bad a team to be honest. Peru were very impressive against them and Bolivia wont be as tough a challenge. It's a tough one IMO and I wouldnt be surprised to see Uruguay win by just a 1 goal margin, not a match I will bet on personally.

Spot on! Uruguay wins 1-0

[fenlandtiger]

No luck with Venezuela/Peru there! Good info though.

What a time for Venezuela to get their first win in the Copa America in 40 years Always a risk when backing against hosts, I guess.

[Zozo the Duke]

Brazil – Chile

Pick: Brazil (-1.25)
Odds: 1.82 @ Gamebookers
Stake: 3/10

Brazil lost their first match of this tournament and that was one of the biggest surprises so far. Not that Brazil is unbeatable, but mostly because Mexico was rated as big outsider because of their squad troubles. Brazil started very slow on that match and it was obvious that they miss their stars big time, but also Dunga had some weird decisions about the squad. For example, he is putting Vagner Love in first eleven and he is the weakest player in the whole team, in my opinion. I hope today he will be substituted earlier.

Chile played very bad first half against Ecuador, but after some substitutions, they started to play much better, took control and turned the result in their favor. According to the players that are playing, Brazil is better team, but they showed that this Brazil is not that Brazil we used to watch. Chile’s motivation to play against the strongest national team will be huge and knowing that they already have win, the pressure will be way on Brazil’s side.

Brazil played some good 30 minutes against Mexico, when they dominated the match and created many goal scoring opportunities and scored a goal that was unfairly disallowed. Brazilian players and coach are under huge pressure, because if they fail to win, they could say goodbye to this tournament and that will be start from hell for their new coach Dunga. I think that he learned the lesson from the match against Mexico and he will play the way he played in the last 30 minutes. Although, Chile has very good team, Brazil will be the team who will be controlling the match and taking three points in order to stay in this tournament.

Probable line-ups:

Brazil: Doni, Maicon, Alex, Juan and Gilberto; Gilberto Silva, Mineiro, Elano or Júlio Batista and Anderson or Diego; Robinho and Vágner Love.

Chile: Claudio Bravo; Ormeño, Vargas, Pablo Contreras, Mark González; Matías Fernández, Meléndez or Villanueva, Arturo Sanhueza, Jorge Valdivia; Humberto Suazo and Navia or Juan Lorca

[RigoCL]

A must win match situation does not neccesary makes you win it at all.
That's a fact.

But it is also a fact that Brazil is top class and it is beyond Chile.

You are right Zozo, Brasil will control this match. Chile will play a 5-4-1 formation in theory, but looking at the starting lineup, the real formation will be 5-3-1-1. 8 defenders!!!! (Navia and Fernandez are out. Gonzalez from Liverpool will be the only player who will cross midline, and Valdivia the only ball provider for Suazo)

That's suicide against Brazil.

I'm from Chile, and I can tell you. We are very dissapointed because we have good players, very talented and young players. And we are facing one of the weakest Brazil team ever... This was the right time to take a big win.

But, I will be happy losing just by 1.

Over 3 is a very good bet.
Cheers.

[icky]

Isn't Mexico too overpriced with Ecuador today? Or there is something that causes this high odds (@2.20 betfair) ?

[godmato]

Originally Posted by RigoCL

A must win match situation does not neccesary makes you win it at all.
That's a fact.

But it is also a fact that Brazil is top class and it is beyond Chile.

You are right Zozo, Brasil will control this match. Chile will play a 5-4-1 formation in theory, but looking at the starting lineup, the real formation will be 5-3-1-1. 8 defenders!!!! (Navia and Fernandez are out. Gonzalez from Liverpool will be the only player who will cross midline, and Valdivia the only ball provider for Suazo)

That's suicide against Brazil.

I'm from Chile, and I can tell you. We are very dissapointed because we have good players, very talented and young players. And we are facing one of the weakest Brazil team ever... This was the right time to take a big win.

But, I will be happy losing just by 1.

Over 3 is a very good bet.
Cheers.

Nice info RigoCL! But they might resist the first half so in this case may be will be better to wait 20-30 minutes when the line for over will drop to 2.5 and ods @ 2.00 and then bet... What do you think?

[RigoCL]

Originally Posted by godmato

Nice info RigoCL! But they might resist the first half so in this case may be will be better to wait 20-30 minutes when the line for over will drop to 2.5 and ods @ 2.00 and then bet... What do you think?

Totally Agree, but if any team happens to score at the beginning of the match. Line will quickly change.

It's a risk that you can take.
I've already took over 3@2.12

[godmato]

Over 2 @ 2.025 at bet365

3/10

PS: I rate Chile to score a goal

[kamei34]

I cannot miss these odds on Paraguay to win with more then 2 goals here.
They trashed ultra defensive Colombia scoring 5 goals and what now against depleted USA team?
Paraguay will win this game no doubt imo, and with a bit of luck it can end with more then one goal.
For years now they are very very good team in South America and their first game in this tournament proved their strenght aswell. USA on the other hand like we all know is not with full squad and will struggle in each match here.
I'll try Paraguay -1EH, bet365@3.3. GL~

[godmato]

Odds raised and now EH -1 is @ 4.00 at bet365. Anyone knows why?

It's worth trying Paraguay @ 2.10 for AH -0.5 2.5/10

[Valderrama11]

Yes, this is concerning me. Odds on a Paraguay win are rising all over the place. Is there something we don't know?

[allthethings]

Well, it could just be the influence of American money prior to the game. I have read many comments by players about how they're going to attack and go for the 6 points they need today and against Colombia...actually they probably just need 4, but the 1-4 against Argentina put them well behind in goal differential. But just because the players are confident doesn't mean the US will have an easy go of it against Paraguay. I presume Paraguay can hit them hard on counters? If so, all is well. As the Argentina game showed, an early goal for the US didn't mean they could shut down the Argies. Far from it.

[888]

I'm not surprised if USA could hold Paraguay for a draw today. There has been a lot of surprises already in Copa America so far. The fact that Paraguay can very well live with a draw, might be the reason why odds been raising for Paraguay. Since it is expected that Argentina to see pass through Colombia today, so the Albiceleste can rest their first team players next coming game before the next stage.

[allthethings]

My feeling is that Paraguay will want to win this one so they'll be under no pressure against Argentina on Thursday. Even if Argies will have nothing much to play for Thursday...