Simple Massey System for the patient - The Punters Lounge

rooster · 25-03-2008, 21:51

This is a system I have been using since October 2006 but monitoring a lot longer. The rules are very simple and use Adrian Masseys old ratings as opposed to his new ones.

1. Top rated horses that are 100+ clear of second rated. It's the figures in brackets.
2. More than half the field must be rated.
3. Odds range 10/11 - 3/1 inclusive.

This year there have been 37 qualifiers (like I said it's for the patient). 18 winners (45% SR which is consistent). 10.3 points profit at SP for a ROI of 45%. Longest losing run this year is 7 but I had 8 once before.

I personally stake 7.5% of my bank on these and will record results based on that. It allows for a run of 13 losers before the bank blows out. That's given me a profit of 234 points since I started.

Remember it's the old ratings not the new ones!!!

Anyone can feel free to post these up if I don't get around to it.

Rooster

Wednesday 26 March 2008

No qualifiers

rooster · 26-03-2008, 18:16

Thursday 27 March 2008

240 AYR COMPANERO 152
355 EXETER PUR DE SIVOLA 106

I don't think either will hit the required minimum odds of 10/11.

rooster · 27-03-2008, 18:02

Thursday 27 March 2008

240 AYR COMPANERO 152 W 2/7F (NO BET)
355 EXETER PUR DE SIVOLA 106 L 4/7F (NO BET)

Friday 28 March 2008

NO SELECTIONS

Trotter · 27-03-2008, 22:26

Hi Rooster.......

I'm just wondering if you know what the difference is between Massey's old and new ratings..........I've looked at them both.........

Are they done on different form ratings ?

Are the 'old' ones more reliable in some way than the new ones ?

Just wondering why you prefer the old ones.........

rooster · 28-03-2008, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotter

Hi Rooster.......

I'm just wondering if you know what the difference is between Massey's old and new ratings..........I've looked at them both.........

Are they done on different form ratings ?

Are the 'old' ones more reliable in some way than the new ones ?

Just wondering why you prefer the old ones.........

Hi Trotter,
I'm just used to old ones I suppose. In terms of these 100+ horses the old ratings throw up more and they are more consistent than the 100+ on the new ratings. I don't know how he does them differently.

Rooster

rooster · 28-03-2008, 19:17

Saturday 29 March 2008

No Selections

rooster · 29-03-2008, 19:26

Sunday 30 March 2008

230 KEMPTON LEADING ATTRACTION

mpendle · 29-03-2008, 21:58

Hi Rooster, I was wondering how far you have back dated this?
I see that Masseys ratings go back many years, do you know how to export the Massey text into Excel?

rooster · 30-03-2008, 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpendle

Hi Rooster, I was wondering how far you have back dated this?
I see that Masseys ratings go back many years, do you know how to export the Massey text into Excel?

I have backdated this to the very start f his ratings.

To import to excel I go to 'tools' - 'get external data' - 'new database query' and that imports for me. Maybe one of the tech heads on here can explain better

Rooster

rooster · 30-03-2008, 18:50

Sunday 30 March 2008

230 KEMPTON LEADING ATTRACTION W 4/6F (NO BET)

rooster · 30-03-2008, 18:51

Monday 31 March

No Selections

mpendle · 30-03-2008, 20:15

Thanks Rooster.
I've just found that you can run off system checks on Masseys site, looks like it only goes back 3 years though. That said, just running off a quick test report shows that there is a positive return.
Will follow this one carefully, thanks for posting.

rooster · 31-03-2008, 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpendle

Thanks Rooster.
I've just found that you can run off system checks on Masseys site, looks like it only goes back 3 years though. That said, just running off a quick test report shows that there is a positive return.
Will follow this one carefully, thanks for posting.

It's a pleasure sir. I'm here to serve

rooster · 31-03-2008, 18:21

Tuesday 1 April 2008

425 WETHERBY KING JACK
455 WETHERBY SIR TANTALLUS HAWK

mpendle · 01-04-2008, 16:42

Quick question Rooster, how you you know the SP before the off? Are you betting literally seconds before the off. For example Sir Tantallus Hawk was trading at odds against for most of the pre-race show, then the price came in to 10/11, but it went off at 5/6. It looks like it will be hard to make sure you pick horses based on that criteria.

rooster · 01-04-2008, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpendle

Quick question Rooster, how you you know the SP before the off? Are you betting literally seconds before the off. For example Sir Tantallus Hawk was trading at odds against for most of the pre-race show, then the price came in to 10/11, but it went off at 5/6. It looks like it will be hard to make sure you pick horses based on that criteria.

Valid point mate and there is no easy answer and from time to time I have been caught out betting at lower than 10/11. Once it's not a sprint you often lay it off but this is not an exact science all th time

Rooster

rooster · 01-04-2008, 18:15

Tuesday 1 April 2008

425 WETHERBY KING JACK W 1/3F (NO BET)
455 WETHERBY SIR TANTALLUS HAWK L 5/6F (NO BET)

rooster · 01-04-2008, 18:16

Wednesday 2 April 2008

310 NOTTINGHAM SONNY RED

rooster · 02-04-2008, 17:21

Wednesday 2 April 2008

310 NOTTINGHAM SONNY RED W 4/5F (NO BET)

rooster · 02-04-2008, 20:31

Thursday 3 April 2008

515 TAUNTON SHEPHERDS HUT
540 LEICESTER THE OSTEOPATH

25-03-2008, 21:51	#1 (permalink)
rooster Legendary Punter Join Date: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,763	Simple Massey System for the patient This is a system I have been using since October 2006 but monitoring a lot longer. The rules are very simple and use Adrian Masseys old ratings as opposed to his new ones. 1. Top rated horses that are 100+ clear of second rated. It's the figures in brackets. 2. More than half the field must be rated. 3. Odds range 10/11 - 3/1 inclusive. This year there have been 37 qualifiers (like I said it's for the patient). 18 winners (45% SR which is consistent). 10.3 points profit at SP for a ROI of 45%. Longest losing run this year is 7 but I had 8 once before. I personally stake 7.5% of my bank on these and will record results based on that. It allows for a run of 13 losers before the bank blows out. That's given me a profit of 234 points since I started. Remember it's the old ratings not the new ones!!! Anyone can feel free to post these up if I don't get around to it. Rooster Wednesday 26 March 2008 No qualifiers Last edited by rooster; 26-03-2008 at 13:01. Reason: correcting Rule 2

26-03-2008, 18:16	#2 (permalink)
rooster Legendary Punter Join Date: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,763	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Thursday 27 March 2008 240 AYR COMPANERO 152 355 EXETER PUR DE SIVOLA 106 I don't think either will hit the required minimum odds of 10/11.

27-03-2008, 18:02	#3 (permalink)
rooster Legendary Punter Join Date: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,763	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Thursday 27 March 2008 240 AYR COMPANERO 152 W 2/7F (NO BET) 355 EXETER PUR DE SIVOLA 106 L 4/7F (NO BET) Friday 28 March 2008 NO SELECTIONS

27-03-2008, 22:26	#4 (permalink)
Trotter Seasoned Punter Join Date: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 405	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Hi Rooster....... I'm just wondering if you know what the difference is between Massey's old and new ratings..........I've looked at them both......... Are they done on different form ratings ? Are the 'old' ones more reliable in some way than the new ones ? Just wondering why you prefer the old ones.........

28-03-2008, 19:17	#6 (permalink)
rooster Legendary Punter Join Date: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,763	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Saturday 29 March 2008 No Selections

29-03-2008, 19:26	#7 (permalink)
rooster Legendary Punter Join Date: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,763	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Sunday 30 March 2008 230 KEMPTON LEADING ATTRACTION

29-03-2008, 21:58	#8 (permalink)
mpendle Newbie Punter Join Date: 29 May 2006 Posts: 33	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Hi Rooster, I was wondering how far you have back dated this? I see that Masseys ratings go back many years, do you know how to export the Massey text into Excel?

30-03-2008, 18:50	#10 (permalink)
rooster Legendary Punter Join Date: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,763	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Sunday 30 March 2008 230 KEMPTON LEADING ATTRACTION W 4/6F (NO BET)

30-03-2008, 18:51	#11 (permalink)
rooster Legendary Punter Join Date: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,763	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Monday 31 March No Selections

30-03-2008, 20:15	#12 (permalink)
mpendle Newbie Punter Join Date: 29 May 2006 Posts: 33	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Thanks Rooster. I've just found that you can run off system checks on Masseys site, looks like it only goes back 3 years though. That said, just running off a quick test report shows that there is a positive return. Will follow this one carefully, thanks for posting.

31-03-2008, 18:21	#14 (permalink)
rooster Legendary Punter Join Date: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,763	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Tuesday 1 April 2008 425 WETHERBY KING JACK 455 WETHERBY SIR TANTALLUS HAWK

01-04-2008, 16:42	#15 (permalink)
mpendle Newbie Punter Join Date: 29 May 2006 Posts: 33	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Quick question Rooster, how you you know the SP before the off? Are you betting literally seconds before the off. For example Sir Tantallus Hawk was trading at odds against for most of the pre-race show, then the price came in to 10/11, but it went off at 5/6. It looks like it will be hard to make sure you pick horses based on that criteria.

01-04-2008, 18:15	#17 (permalink)
rooster Legendary Punter Join Date: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,763	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Tuesday 1 April 2008 425 WETHERBY KING JACK W 1/3F (NO BET) 455 WETHERBY SIR TANTALLUS HAWK L 5/6F (NO BET)

01-04-2008, 18:16	#18 (permalink)
rooster Legendary Punter Join Date: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,763	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Wednesday 2 April 2008 310 NOTTINGHAM SONNY RED

02-04-2008, 17:21	#19 (permalink)
rooster Legendary Punter Join Date: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,763	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Wednesday 2 April 2008 310 NOTTINGHAM SONNY RED W 4/5F (NO BET)

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rooster Legendary Punter Join Date: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,763	Re: Simple Massey System for the patient Thursday 3 April 2008 515 TAUNTON SHEPHERDS HUT 540 LEICESTER THE OSTEOPATH

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