Simple Laying System Trial

[daftpegasus]

Originally Posted by Red Dragon

yes, your first to run selections Gothenberg and Grand Art also agreed with another system (The Milliard system, a very simple system) so it was a bit of a sickener when they both won!
Also good to hear you have a goal of 1000 lays. Are you still including Irish races as i have not seen any for a while?

In terms of the Irish racing the system still has a chance to work there as all the data is available, and it's actually shown a nice profit to date (for the few races I've recorded details for). However very few of them fell under 6.0 (only 6 races) so it's kind of on the back burner for the time being. Again I have no problems with you looking for selections on the Irish runners and posting them

[daftpegasus]

Today's Selections:

24/07/2007	14:00	Yarmouth	Speed Song	1.98
24/07/2007	15:00	Yarmouth	Potentiale	5.2
24/07/2007	16:30	Yarmouth	Resplendent Nova	7
24/07/2007	17:00	Yarmouth	Multahab	5.9
24/07/2007	18:50	Musselburgh	Silly Gilly	2.58
24/07/2007	19:50	Musselburgh	Benandonner	5.7
24/07/2007	20:00	Bangor	Great Character	5.3
24/07/2007	21:00	Bangor	Me Tee Pee	4.8
24/07/2007	21:20	Musselburgh	Cool Ebony	7.2

Since many of these are late afternoon/evening races I may update the prices later.

No side system selections today and one Irish Selection:

24/07/2007	20:30	Ballinrobe	Catskill

Although the difference between the back price (3.0) and the lay price (6.8) on BF currently makes it impossible to determine the price until nearer the time.

[daftpegasus]

Updated prices for this evening's racing and Catskill running in Ireland has a back price of 3.7 and a lay price of 4.3 so I've split the difference and put in 4.0 - If I get the chance later this evening I'll check again and update it will an exact figure.

24/07/2007	18:50	Musselburgh	Silly Gilly	2.38
24/07/2007	19:50	Musselburgh	Benandonner	6.4
24/07/2007	20:00	Bangor	Great Character	4.8
24/07/2007	21:00	Bangor	Mr Tee Pee	4.8
24/07/2007	21:20	Musselburgh	Cool Ebony	7

The biggest effect is that Benandonner now moves to the over 6.0 category, most other prices dropped.

[daftpegasus]

Originally Posted by daftpegasus(BPP)

Today's Selections:


Since many of these are late afternoon/evening races I may update the prices later.

No side system selections today and one Irish Selection:

Although the difference between the back price (3.0) and the lay price (6.8) on BF currently makes it impossible to determine the price until nearer the time.

Another good day for the under 6.0 system, but another winner over 6.0 to keep that system well down.

Results of Lays Under 6.0
Number of Lays: 200
Winning Lays: 154
Strike rate: 77%
Starting Bank 1000pts
New Bank: 1211.8pts after commission
Profit/Loss: +1211.8pts

Results of lays 6.0+
Number of Lays: 55
Winning Lays: 43
Strike rate:78%
Starting Bank 1000pts
New Bank: 692.5pts after commission
Profit/Loss: -307.5pts

Combined Results
Number of Lays: 255
Winning Lays: 197
Strike rate: 77%
Starting Bank 1000pts
New Bank: 904.3pts after commission
Profit/Loss: -95.7pts

Side System
Number of Lays: 42
Winning Lays: 28
Strike rate: 67%
Starting Bank 1000pts
New Bank: 1042.8pts after commission
Profit/Loss: 42.8pts

[daftpegasus]

Today's Selections:

25/07/2007	14:05	Lingfield	Propaganda	3.3
25/07/2007	14:35	Lingfield	Hazy Days	4.2
25/07/2007	15:05	Lingfield	Without A Prayer	4.2
25/07/2007	15:50	Catterick	Handsome Cross	4.2
25/07/2007	16:05	Lingfield	Titan Triumph	3.9
25/07/2007	16:35	Lingfield	Ebraam	6.6
25/07/2007	19:20	Leicester	Tina's Ridge	3.3
25/07/2007	19:50	Leicester	Broughtons Revival	3.45
25/07/2007	20:45	Sandown	Desert Opal	5.7

Side System:

25/07/2007	14:20	Catterick	Ramatni	1.88
25/07/2007	14:50	Catterick	Feisty Royale	2.9
25/07/2007	20:10	Sandown	Toparudi	2.82
25/07/2007	20:25	Leicester	What A Treasure	1.66

[daftpegasus]

Originally Posted by daftpegasus(BPP)

Today's Selections:


Side System:

A terrible day under 6.0 but a good day on the side system

Results of Lays Under 6.0
Number of Lays: 208
Winning Lays: 157
Strike rate: 75%
Starting Bank 1000pts
New Bank: 181.8pts after commission
Profit/Loss: +181.8pts

Results of lays 6.0+
Number of Lays: 56
Winning Lays: 44
Strike rate:79%
Starting Bank 1000pts
New Bank: 702pts after commission
Profit/Loss: -298pts

Combined Results
Number of Lays: 264
Winning Lays: 201
Strike rate: 76%
Starting Bank 1000pts
New Bank: 783.8pts after commission
Profit/Loss: -216.2pts

Side System
Number of Lays: 46
Winning Lays: 31
Strike rate: 67%
Starting Bank 1000pts
New Bank: 1064.7pts after commission
Profit/Loss: 64.7pts

[Red Dragon]

Ouch!

[daftpegasus]

To make matters worse I just realised that the profit for the under 6.0 system should be only 81.8 pts not 181.8

Typing error.

[aelara]

Pegasus
Side system seems to be going great guns and at much smaller liabilities
Long may it continue mate

[Red Dragon]

Todays selections:
26/7/07 2:20 Bath: Mesmerise Me ?
26/7/07 2;55 Bath: Secret Asset 3.45
26/7/07 3.30 Bath: Desert Lightning 4.1
I am running late so this is Bath for starters.

[Red Dragon]

Just the one for Uttoxeter.
26/7/07 3:05 Uttoxeter: Amnesty 5.9
Sandown
26/7/07 4:30 Sandown: Seabow 4.3
26/7/07 5:00 sandown: Freeze 6.2

Thats it for the afternoon.

[Red Dragon]

Back at six pm unless DaftPegasus arrives!
daftpegasus. Do you use a certain website for the odds or do you have to visit individual races at Betfair.

[Red Dragon]

Tonights lays including one for Ireland
26/07/07 18:40 Folkestone Ocean Gift 2.5
26/07/07 20:10 Folkestone Franchoek 4.5
26/07/07 20:40 Folkestone Monte Alto 3.5
26/07/07 20:00 York Raffish 4.5
26/07/07 20:30 York Smugglers bay 3.45
26/07/07 18:20 Limerick Tashadelek 5.8

[daftpegasus]

Originally Posted by Red Dragon

Back at six pm unless DaftPegasus arrives!
daftpegasus. Do you use a certain website for the odds or do you have to visit individual races at Betfair.

I only have about 2 minutes as I was supposed to be somewhere else at 8pm.

I simply use Betfair and look up each individual race on there. Thanks for doing today's races, I'll have to update my spreadsheets with the information.

[Red Dragon]

[quote=Red Dragon;849372]Todays selections:
26/7/07 2:20 Bath: Mesmerise Me ladbrokes show this as 9/2 which is 5.40 ?
26/7/07 2;55 Bath: Secret Asset 3.45 NR
26/7/07 3.30 Bath: Desert Lightning 4.1
26/7/07 3:05 Uttoxeter: Amnesty 5.9
26/7/07 4:30 Sandown: Seabow 4.3
26/7/07 5:00 Sandown: Freeze 6.2
26/07/07 18:40 Folkestone Ocean Gift 2.5
26/07/07 20:10 Folkestone Franchoek 4.5
26/07/07 20:40 Folkestone Monte Alto 3.5
26/07/07 20:00 York Raffish 4.5
26/07/07 20:30 York Smugglers bay 3.45
26/07/07 18:20 Limerick Tashadelek 5.8

[Red Dragon]

27/07/07 Ascot Al Qasi 4/1 fav
27/07/07 Ascot Galactic Star 3.4
27/07/07 Thirsk Meeting Of minds 6.8
27/07/07 Thirsk Dark Champion 6
27/07/07 Wolverhampton Topflightcoolracer 5
27/07/07 Wolverhampton lord Of Dreams 5.1
27/07/07 Wolverhampton Dictatorship 4.5
Unfortunately I missed the first race as i had to go out in the morning. I really must stop going on those walks to keep myself fit!

[daftpegasus]

Just trying to gte these done but before the race starts Red Alert Day in the 14:00 is a qualifier for the side system

[daftpegasus]

Originally Posted by daftpegasus(BPP)

Just trying to gte these done but before the race starts Red Alert Day in the 14:00 is a qualifier for the side system

at odds of 1.47

[daftpegasus]

Originally Posted by daftpegasus(BPP)

Just trying to gte these done but before the race starts Red Alert Day in the 14:00 is a qualifier for the side system

Glad I managed to get that one in

Thanks Red Dragon for keeping up with these for me:

Today's Selection are as you've put your post:

27/07/2007	15:30	Wolverhampton	Topflightcoolracer	5.1
27/07/2007	15:40	Thirsk	Meeting of Minds	6.8
27/07/2007	16:30	Ascot	Galatic Star	3.4
27/07/2007	16:40	Wolverhampton	Lord Of Dreams	5.2
27/07/2007	17:05	Ascot	Fifty Cents	2.74
27/07/2007	17:15	Wolverhampton	Diktatorship	4.5
27/07/2007	17:25	Thirsk	Dark Champion	6

and the side system: