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Old 30-04-2008, 18:30   #21 (permalink)
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All the lays were successful today. I will do up results and stats this week and get a clearer picture where things stand.

Results Wednesday 30 April 2008

210 ASCOT 100/30*Skid Solo, (BACK) L 11/4JF
245 ASCOT 6/4*Makaaseb (BACK) NR
255 PONTEFRACT 3/1*Coin Of The Realm, (LAY) L 2/1F
320 ASCOT 13/8*Cesare (BACK) W 11/8F
340 WORCESTER 5/2*Bamby, (LAY) L 11/4F
355 ASCOT 5/2*Distinction, (LAY) L 5/2F
405 PONTEFRACT 3/1*Born Tobouggie (LAY) 2ND 7/4F
415 WORCESTER 8/13*Adroit Approach (BACK) W 1/1F
440 PONTEFRACT 7/4*Silver Waters (LAY) L 15/8F
550 GREAT LEIGHS 10/11*The Dial House, (BACK) 2ND 11/10F
620 GREAT LEIGHS 11/4*Mia´s Boy (LAY) 3RD 4/1
630 KELSO 5/4*My Turn Now, (LAY) ABANDONED
650 GREAT LEIGHS 4/5*Road To Love (BACK) L 11/10F
700 KELSO 5/2*Twelve Paces (LAY) ABANDONED
800 KELSO 11/10*Sinatas (BACK) ABANDONED
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Old 30-04-2008, 22:07   #22 (permalink)
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Thursday 1 May 2008

430 REDCAR 13/8*Tajweed (LAY)
520 FOLKSTONE 5/4*Nutkin, (BACK)
540 HUNTINGTON 8/11*Rydal Park (BACK)
550 GREAT LEIGHS Evs*Boz (BACK)
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Old 30-04-2008, 22:35   #23 (permalink)
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A quick analysis of the lays since I started posting these as follows:

No of Lays: 45
Successful: 33 (73% success rate - not strike rate!!!)
Profit: 12.85 points (that's adding 10% to SP price and deducting 5% comm.)
POT: 28.5% (very healthy)
Average price of losing lays: 1.54 (just over 6/4)

So the initial results are holding up well but it's early days and as I said at the start, these are all forecast favourites in fields of 8 or less which is a notoriously difficult end of the market to be laying in.

I have been staking these in a way where I'm willing to risk 10% of my bank on each lay and I will record them in this way from now on. I will base the divisor at 10% above SP ie: if SP is 9/4 then the stake would be 10/2.47 (2.25+10%). Bank of 100 points would now stand at 135.48.

Results to date: (figure after SP is level stake profit/loss followed by profit/loss when liability is 10% of bank)

22-Apr-08 225 KEMP 9/4*Beautiful Lady, L 9/4F 0.95 4.05
325 FOLK 5/2*Hereford Boy W 15/8F -2.10 -10.00
335 KEMP 6/4*Grande Caiman L 6/4F 0.95 6.06
350 SOUTH 11/4*Kensington, L 9/4JF 0.95 4.05
400 FOLK 7/4*Lupita, L 9/4F 0.95 4.05
505 FOLK 11/4*Calistos Quest, L 9/4F 0.95 4.05
515 KEMP 6/4*The Carlton Cannes, 2ND 4/5F 0.95 11.36
645 BATH 6/4*Sugar Ray, W 1/1F -1.10 -10.00
23-Apr-08 200 CATTERICK 5/2*Keiser Blue, L 7/2 0.95 2.86
310 CATTERICK 11/8*Planetarium L 8/13F 0.95 14.93
320 PERTH 6/4*Fleet Street, 2ND 11/4F 0.95 3.31
330 NOTTINGHAM 4/7*Curtain Call W 8/11F -0.80 -10.00
24-Apr-08 200 BEVERLEY 11/4*Ron´s Princess L 11/4JF 0.95 3.31
235 BEVERLEY 13/8*Duke Of Touraine, W 11/8F -1.51 -10.00
255 FONTWELL 5/2*Noble Ben, 2ND 7/2 0.95 2.60
310 BEVERLEY 11/4*Atabaas Pride, 3RD 2/1 0.95 4.55
430 PERTH 1/2*Natiain W 4/6F -0.73 -10.00
530 BEVERLEY Evs*Greyfriars Abbey W 3/1 -3.30 -10.00
550 GREATLEIGHS 4/1*Merlin´s Dancer L 7/1 0.95 1.30
620 GREAT LEIGHS 100/30*Chocolate Caramel W 10/3F -3.67 -10.00
535 SOUTHWELL 10/11*Midnight Fling L 15/8F 0.95 4.85
705 SOUTHWELL 9/4*Exit Smiling L 11/8F 0.95 6.62
720 GREAT LEIGHS 2/1*Proper, 2ND 5/4F 0.95 7.25
25-Apr-08 300 SANDOWN 11/10*Charm School, 2ND 7/4F 0.95 5.18
405 WOLVERHAMPTON 5/2*Playtotheaudience, 3RD 3/1JF 0.95 3.03
26-Apr-08 140 SANDOWN 13/8*Pigeon Island L 9/4F 0.95 4.05
215 LEICESTER Evs*Rayvin Mad 2ND 13/8 0.95 5.59
315 LEICESTER 4/1*City Stable L 11/2 0.95 1.65
750 HAYDOCK Evs*Conquisto W 6/4F -1.65 -10.00
820 HAYDOCK 4/7*Meshtri W 2/5F -0.44 -10.00
835 WOLVERHAMPTON 1/8*Queen Of Naples W 2/13F -0.17 -10.00
27-Apr-08 210 BRIGHTON 4/6*Brenin Taran 2ND 6/5F 0.95 7.58
28-Apr-08 220 LINGFIELD 11/8*Nawamees W 6/4F -1.65 -10.00
430 YARMOUTH 6/4*Greyfriars Abbey L 9/4 0.95 4.05
610 WINDSOR 2/1*Dubai Petal, W 5/4F -1.38 -10.00
655 SOTHWELL 2/1*Steel City Boy L 2/1F 0.95 4.55
725 SOUTHWELL 9/4*Fantastic Lass L 9/4 0.95 4.05
29-Apr-08 420 WINCANTON 3/1*Turfshuffle, L 10/3 0.95 2.72
430 SOUTHWELL 2/1*Mid Valley 2ND 9/4 0.95 4.05
30-Apr-08 255 PONTEFRACT 3/1*Coin Of The Realm, L 2/1F 0.95 4.55
340 WORCESTER 5/2*Bamby, L 11/4F 0.95 3.30
355 ASCOT 5/2*Distinction, L 5/2F 0.95 3.64
405 PONTEFRACT 3/1*Born Tobouggie 2ND 7/4F 0.95 5.18
440 PONTEFRACT 7/4*Silver Waters L 15/8F 0.95 4.85
620 GREAT LEIGHS 11/4*Mia´s Boy 3RD 4/1 0.95 2.27

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Old 01-05-2008, 21:09   #24 (permalink)
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Thursday 1 May 2008

430 REDCAR 13/8*Tajweed (LAY) W 6/5F
520 FOLKSTONE 5/4*Nutkin, (BACK) 2ND 4/7F
540 HUNTINGTON 8/11*Rydal Park (BACK) W 8/13F
550 GREAT LEIGHS Evs*Boz (BACK) W 4/5F
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Old 01-05-2008, 21:39   #25 (permalink)
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Thursday 2 May 2008

310 LINGFIELD 11/4*Lille Ida (LAY)
340 LINGFIELD 3/1*Giganticus (LAY)
350 MUSSELBURGH 11/8*Borderlescott (LAY)
410 LINGFIELD 6/5*Mr Aviator (LAY)
440 LINGFIELD 5/2*Racer Forever (LAY)
510 LINGFIELD 2/1*Apache Fort (LAY)
610 FONTWELL 5/4*Lupanar (LAY)
640 FONTWELL 4/6*Zilcash (LAY)
710 FONTWELL 8/13*Prime Contender (LAY)
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Old 02-05-2008, 21:02   #26 (permalink)
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Results Friday (not Thursday as in previous post) 2 May 2008

310 LINGFIELD 11/4*Lille Ida (LAY) L 13/2
340 LINGFIELD 3/1*Giganticus (LAY) NR
350 MUSSELBURGH 11/8*Borderlescott (LAY) W 5/4F
410 LINGFIELD 6/5*Mr Aviator (LAY) 2ND 11/10F
440 LINGFIELD 5/2*Racer Forever (LAY) 2ND 7/2
510 LINGFIELD 2/1*Apache Fort (LAY) W 3/1
610 FONTWELL 5/4*Lupanar (LAY) W 5/6F
640 FONTWELL 4/6*Zilcash (LAY) W 7/4
710 FONTWELL 8/13*Prime Contender (LAY) 2ND 5/6F
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Old 02-05-2008, 21:04   #27 (permalink)
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Saturday 3 May 2008

200 THIRSK 3/1*Kate The Great (LAY)
245 NEWMARKET 13/8*Passage Of Time (LAY)
520 GOODWOOD Evs*Icesolator (LAY)
525 HEXHAM 5/4*Oscar Honey, (LAY)
550 GOODWOOD 11/8*Riverscape, (LAY)
615 DONCASTER 4/5*Majuba (LAY)
730 HEXHAM 2/1*Network Oscar (LAY)
750 DONCASTER 8/13*Iguazu Falls, (LAY)
800 HEXHAM 4/6*Mr Barnacle (LAY)
830 HEXHAM 5/4*Sleeping Night (LAY)
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Old 04-05-2008, 13:53   #28 (permalink)
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Results Saturday 3 May 2008

200 THIRSK 3/1*Kate The Great (LAY) L 4/1
245 NEWMARKET 13/8*Passage Of Time (LAY) L 7/4
520 GOODWOOD Evs*Icesolator (LAY) W 5/6F
525 HEXHAM 5/4*Oscar Honey, (LAY) L 11/8F
550 GOODWOOD 11/8*Riverscape, (LAY) 2ND 9/2
615 DONCASTER 4/5*Majuba (LAY) 2ND 8/13F
730 HEXHAM 2/1*Network Oscar (LAY) L 3/1
750 DONCASTER 8/13*Iguazu Falls, (LAY) L 4/6F
800 HEXHAM 4/6*Mr Barnacle (LAY) W 11/8
830 HEXHAM 5/4*Sleeping Night (LAY) 2ND 2/1
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Old 04-05-2008, 13:54   #29 (permalink)
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Sunday 4 May 2008

Sorry these are so late! As you can see the first result is already in

220 HAMILTON 15/8*Metroland (LAY) L 7/4JF
305 SALISBURY 2/1*Calypso Girl, (LAY)
330 HAMILTON 6/4*Thompsons Walls (LAY)
505 NEWMARKET 2/1*Cruel Sea (LAY)
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Old 04-05-2008, 18:46   #30 (permalink)
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Results Sunday 4 May 2008

220 HAMILTON 15/8*Metroland (LAY) L 7/4JF
305 SALISBURY 2/1*Calypso Girl, (LAY) L 3/1
330 HAMILTON 6/4*Thompsons Walls (LAY) W 3/1
505 NEWMARKET 2/1*Cruel Sea (LAY) 2ND 5/2
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Old 04-05-2008, 22:56   #31 (permalink)
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Monday 5 May 2008

230 KEMPTON 11/4*Espy (LAY)
305 WINDSOR 6/4*Robin The Till, (LAY)
335 WINDSOR 5/2*Trans Siberian (LAY)
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:52   #32 (permalink)
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Results for Monday 5 May 2008

230 KEMPTON 11/4*Espy (LAY) W 7/2
305 WINDSOR 6/4*Robin The Till, (LAY) L 9/4F
335 WINDSOR 5/2*Trans Siberian (LAY) W 7/4F
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:53   #33 (permalink)
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Tuesday 6 May 2008

250 KELSO 2/9*Flight Leader (LAY)
330 SOUTHWELL 15/8*Goodbye (LAY)
430 SOUTHWELL 5/4*Wood Chorus (LAY)
605 CATTERICK 2/1*Red Cell (LAY)
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Old 06-05-2008, 18:51   #34 (permalink)
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Results 6 May 2008

250 KELSO 2/9*Flight Leader (LAY) 2ND 4/9F
330 SOUTHWELL 15/8*Goodbye (LAY) NR
430 SOUTHWELL 5/4*Wood Chorus (LAY) 2ND 4/6F
605 CATTERICK 2/1*Red Cell (LAY) W 6/4F
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Old 06-05-2008, 19:25   #35 (permalink)
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Wednesday 7 May 2008

200 BEVERLEY 11/4*Svinda (LAY)
305 BEVERLEY 11/4*Rosbay (LAY)
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Results for Wednesday 7 May 2008

200 BEVERLEY 11/4*Svinda (LAY) L 10/3
305 BEVERLEY 11/4*Rosbay (LAY) 2ND 7/2
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Old 07-05-2008, 22:40   #37 (permalink)
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I'm close to deciding on a filter or two for these to try and get the number of lays down and to increase profitability. I'll keep posting them all and review things after a months worth of posts.

Thursday 8 May 2008

215 CHESTER 13/8*Maraahel, (LAY)
245 CHESTER 9/4*Feared In Flight (LAY)
230 GOODWOOD Icesolator, (LAY)
530 NEWTON ABBOT 13/8*Sesame Rambler, (LAY)
610 GREAT LEIGHS 5/2*Loose Caboose, (LAY)
640 GREAT LEIGHS 3/1*Basra (LAY)
710 GREAT LEIGHS 7/4*Swop, (LAY)
750 WINCANTON 11/4*Golden Jack (LAY)
820 WINCANTON 5/4*Georgian King, (LAY)
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Old 09-05-2008, 14:30   #39 (permalink)
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Thanks Asificare Getting closer to deciding on full criteria and go live with this.

Results Thursday 8 May 2008

215 CHESTER 13/8*Maraahel, (LAY) 2ND 5/2
245 CHESTER 9/4*Feared In Flight (LAY) L 7/2
230 GOODWOOD Icesolator, (LAY) W 5/2
530 NEWTON ABBOT 13/8*Sesame Rambler, (LAY) L 13/8F
610 GREAT LEIGHS 5/2*Loose Caboose, (LAY) L 9/4F
640 GREAT LEIGHS 3/1*Basra (LAY) 3RD 9/2
710 GREAT LEIGHS 7/4*Swop, (LAY) 2ND 4/5F
750 WINCANTON 11/4*Golden Jack (LAY) W 4/1
820 WINCANTON 5/4*Georgian King, (LAY) 2ND 11/8JF
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Old 09-05-2008, 14:32   #40 (permalink)
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Friday 9 May 2008

These are very late and two races already run. I'm putting them up anyway as this is still at the monitoring stage and I want a complete picture of results for when I go live with it so to speak.

215 CHESTER 2/1*Achill Island (LAY) 3RD 2/1F
310 LINGFIELD 11/4*Harry Up (LAY) L 9/1
700 RIPON 5/2*Blue Tomato (LAY)
710 HAMILTON 5/2*Princess Lomi (LAY)
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