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Old 29-07-2008, 22:07   #321 (permalink)
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another great day rooster thanks for bringing this to my attention a system high on my bog all due to you . now down to 3% of bank .
soon hope to be 1% then 0.75% to reduce the loss factor.

keep up the good work m8

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Old 29-07-2008, 22:58   #322 (permalink)
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Tulenos

Thanks for the explanation and it's an interesting area to look at. I'll try to keep note of it.

Juan King

Have your e-mail address so maybe remove it now mate Again interesting thoughts on the whole area of liquidity, Need to watch this from now on. I'll send on the file soon.

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Old 29-07-2008, 23:02   #323 (permalink)
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Results for 29 July 2008

235 BEVERLEY 5/2*Bainisteoir (LAY) L 11/4F
250 GOODWOOD 4/6*Conduit (LAY) W 1/2F
455 BEVERLEY 3/1*Hypnosis (LAY) NR
750 WORCESTER 5/4*Roby De Cimbre (LAY) W 11/8F
815 PERTH 11/8*Apollo Creed (LAY) L 9/4F
915 PERTH 5/2*Leamington Lad (LAY) 2ND 9/4F

RR

2250 GOODWOOD 4/6 Conduit (LAY) W 1/2F
750 WORCESTER 5/4 Roby De Cimbre (LAY) W 10/11F
815 PERTH 11/8 Apollo Creed (LAY) L 9/4F

RR 2

710 PERTH 8/11 Rory Boy (BACK) W 10/11F

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3235 BEVERLEY 5/2 Bainisteoir (LAY) L 11/4F
455 BEVERLEY 3/1 Hypnosis (LAY) NR
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Old 29-07-2008, 23:54   #324 (permalink)
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30 July 2008

235 PERTH 8/11*Regent“s Secret (LAY)
355 REDCAR 7/2*Reel Buddy Star
715 LEICESTER 5/2*Stargazer Jim (LAY)

RR

235 PERTH 8/11*Regent“s Secret (LAY)

RR 2

330 GOODWOOD 2/5 Henrythenavigator
345 PERTH 5/4 Premier Dane

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355 REDCAR 7/2*Reel Buddy Star (LAY)
715 LEICESTER 5/2*Stargazer Jim (LAY)
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Old 30-07-2008, 01:22   #325 (permalink)
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The liquidity matter is important, of course, and I'll try to look at it - some price movements from today's races when I was around:

RR

250 GOODWOOD 4/6 Conduit (LAY) 5 min 1.58 – BFSP 1.54 W
750 WORCESTER 5/4 Roby De Cimbre (LAY) 5 min 2.22 – BFSP 2.54 W
815 PERTH 11/8 Apollo Creed (LAY) BFSP 3.83 L - not around before the off

RR 2

710 PERTH 8/11 Rory Boy (BACK) 3 min 1.98 – BFSP 2.04 W - was in the 1.7s some 15 mins before the off

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235 BEVERLEY 5/2 Bainisteoir (LAY) 5 min 4.2 – BFSP 4.1 L
455 BEVERLEY 3/1 Hypnosis (LAY)NR
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Old 30-07-2008, 20:22   #326 (permalink)
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RR

235 PERTH 8/11*Regent´s Secret (LAY) 5 min 2.4 – BFSP 2.74

RR 2

330 GOODWOOD 2/5 Henrythenavigator 5 min 1.39 – BFSP 1.41
345 PERTH 5/4 Premier Dane 5 min 1.96 – BFSP 1.98

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355 REDCAR 7/2*Reel Buddy Star (LAY) NR
715 LEICESTER 5/2*Stargazer Jim (LAY) 5 min 3.8 – BFSP 3.65

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Old 30-07-2008, 20:25   #327 (permalink)
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Not much movement today, bar Regent's Secret which was clearly not wanted before the off and during the race until the final furlong - it kept rising during the race even though it was always there or thereabouts. Stargazer Jim moved in the other direction - over 4.0 before the 5 min mark and then backed steadily - it looks like these things level themselves up over time. And - the liquidity was quite fair in all cases today, with HTN being in the busiest market, of course
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Old 30-07-2008, 23:52   #328 (permalink)
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Tulenos

It's a skill in itself this whole area of liquidity. Regent's Secret was quite an odd one. It is a useful indicator in certain scenarios. Obviously though in the case of HTN it's going to be more 'stable' in terms of movements. O'Brien is a bloomin God. He's te Tiger Woods of trainers.

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Old 30-07-2008, 23:55   #329 (permalink)
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Results for 30 July 2008

235 PERTH 8/11*Regent“s Secret (LAY) W 6/4
355 REDCAR 7/2*Reel Buddy Star NR
715 LEICESTER 5/2*Stargazer Jim (LAY) L 9/4F

RR

235 PERTH 8/11*Regent“s Secret (LAY) W 6/4

RR 2

330 GOODWOOD 2/5 Henrythenavigator W 4/11F
345 PERTH 5/4 Premier Dane W 10/11F

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355 REDCAR 7/2*Reel Buddy Star (LAY) NR
715 LEICESTER 5/2*Stargazer Jim (LAY) L 9/4F
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Old 30-07-2008, 23:59   #330 (permalink)
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I'll do a monthly round-up of the stats after tomorrow's racing.
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Old 31-07-2008, 00:33   #331 (permalink)
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31 July 2008

205 NOTTINGHAM 6/4*Gamila (LAY)
355 NOTTINGHAM 5/2*Full Speed (LAY)
430 NOTTINGHAM 2/1*Mr Hichens (LAY)
625 SANDOWN 2/1*Coole Dodger (LAY)
640 MUSSELBURGH 1/4*Prime Mood (LAY)
715 MUSSELBURGH 11/8*Faraway Sound (LAY)
730 SANDOWN 13/8*Cave Lion (LAY)
820 MUSSELBURGH 5/2*Infinity Bond (LAY)

RR

625 SANDOWN 2/1*Coole Dodger (LAY)
640 MUSSELBURGH 1/4*Prime Mood (LAY)
715 MUSSELBURGH 11/8*Faraway Sound (LAY)

RR 2

505 NOTTINGHAM 2/1 Hartshead
525 STRATFORD 1/2 Winter Star

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625 SANDOWN 2/1*Coole Dodger (LAY)
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Old 31-07-2008, 21:49   #332 (permalink)
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Results for 31 July 2008

Is it just me or does everyone get a profound sense of well-being when successfully laying a 1/7 shot? Good day today.

205 NOTTINGHAM 6/4*Gamila (LAY) W 4/6F
355 NOTTINGHAM 5/2*Full Speed (LAY) L 13/8F
430 NOTTINGHAM 2/1*Mr Hichens (LAY) W 1/1F
625 SANDOWN 2/1*Coole Dodger (LAY) 2ND 5/6F
640 MUSSELBURGH 1/4*Prime Mood (LAY) 2ND 1/7F
715 MUSSELBURGH 11/8*Faraway Sound (LAY) L 1/1F
730 SANDOWN 13/8*Cave Lion (LAY) 3RD 7/4F
820 MUSSELBURGH 5/2*Infinity Bond (LAY) L 11/4

RR

625 SANDOWN 2/1*Coole Dodger (LAY) 2ND 5/6F
640 MUSSELBURGH 1/4*Prime Mood (LAY) 2ND 1/7F
715 MUSSELBURGH 11/8*Faraway Sound (LAY) L 1/1F

RR 2

505 NOTTINGHAM 2/1 Hartshead L 9/4F
525 STRATFORD 1/2 Winter Star W 2/9F

Ultra Filtered (LAY FAVS ONLY!!)

625 SANDOWN 2/1*Coole Dodger (LAY) 2ND 5/6F
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Old 31-07-2008, 21:50   #333 (permalink)
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I won't get tomorrow's up till the wee hours of the morning as I'm out and laptop battery is low.

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Old 01-08-2008, 02:56   #334 (permalink)
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Friday 1 August 2008

555 NEWMARKET 6/4*War Native (LAY)
610 HAYDOCK 13/8*Alonso De Guzman (LAY)
625 NEWMARKET 6/5*Naughty Thoughts (LAY)
700 NEWMARKET 13/8*Awinnersgame (LAY)
710 BATH 2/1*Brexca (LAY)
740 BATH 15/8*Cosmea (LAY)
815 BATH 5/2*Flying Valentino (LAY)
825 HAYDOCK 5/2*Black Dahlia (LAY)
845 BATH 7/4*Muftarres (LAY)

RR

625 NEWMARKET 6/5*Naughty Thoughts (LAY)
700 NEWMARKET 13/8*Awinnersgame (LAY)
740 BATH 15/8*Cosmea (LAY)

RR 2

315 THIRSK Evs*Aflaam
415 BANGOR 11/4*Laoch Dubh
425 THIRSK 7/4*Steel Blue

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Old 01-08-2008, 09:19   #335 (permalink)
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Quote:
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Friday 1 August 2008


845 BATH 7/4*Muftarres
425 THIRSK 7/4*Steel Blue


would take these as no lays as they also in best bet thread
another thanx for yesterday rooster great day
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Old 01-08-2008, 13:48   #336 (permalink)
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Hi Rooster
Prime Move - 1/7 - profound sense of well being is an understatement - did you realise yesterday was the National Day of Orgasms !!! - I didn't know until Bumble ( David Lloyd ) alluded to it during the Test commentary......honest !!

I suppose Max Mosely had a bit of the
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Old 01-08-2008, 17:49   #337 (permalink)
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Juan King
That is my kind of National day mate! Will send on the file in the next day or two when it's more comprehensible

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Old 01-08-2008, 17:52   #338 (permalink)
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Here are the stats for each category for the month of July. Overall it makes good reading although the RR selections were poor. I may ditch the category in the near future but will do so based on results since April not just as a reaction to a poor July.

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Old 01-08-2008, 17:54   #339 (permalink)
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Not too bad given the month that was in it. the obvious thing to note is that the favourites produced a small loss.

ALL

RAN 159
SUCCESSFUL 113
SR 71.07%
P/L 12.67
ROI 7.97%

FAVS

RAN 111
SUCCESSFUL 71
SR 63.96%
P/L -3.92
ROI -3.53%

NON FAV

RAN 48
SUCCESSFUL 41
SR 85.42%
P/L 16.6
ROI 34.58%
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Old 01-08-2008, 17:55   #340 (permalink)
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Not much to say except what I said in two posts back.

RR SELECTIONS

RAN 64
SUCCESSFUL 35
SR 54.69%
P/L -4.64
ROI -7.25%

FAVS

RAN 57
SUCCESSFUL 29
SR 50.88%
P/L -3.32
ROI -5.82%

NON FAV

RAN 7
SUCCESSFUL 6
SR 85.71%
P/L 3.5
ROI 50.00%
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