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Old 04-05-2006, 05:26   #1 (permalink)
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Friday 5 May 2006
HomeDrawAwayBPP
Kayserispor v Vestel Manisaspor (18:00 BST)1.504.007.50105%
Saturday 6 May 2006
HomeDrawAwayBPP
Ankaraspor v Trabzonspor (17:00 BST)3.253.252.15109%
Caykur Rizespor v Denizlispor (17:00 BST)3.003.352.25108%
Diyarbakirspor v Gençlerbirligi (17:00 BST)2.803.752.30106%
Malatyaspor v Samsunspor (17:00 BST)2.203.353.25107%
Sunday 7 May 2006
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Ankaragücü v Gaziantepspor (14:00 BST)2.503.003.20105%
Konyaspor v Sivasspor (14:00 BST)2.003.453.75106%
Besiktas v Galatasaray (17:00 BST)4.204.001.83104%
Fenerbahçe v Erciyesspor (17:00 BST)1.119.0022.00106%
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:02   #2 (permalink)
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Possible Scenario On Relegation ;

This is one of the most interesting weeks maybe the most interseting one since the beginning of season. I beleive that Malatyaspor will manage to stay in the league and Denizli, Samsun, Diyarbakır will relegate.

Becasue of what I think, I beleive this is the most possible scenario :

Since in the event of a tie the matches between the teams will be decisive, and since Malatya won the first game against Samsunspor, a draw is not enough for Samsun. They should win it in order to keep the hopes alive.
But, what is very bad for Samsun is that even if they have the same points with Denizli at the end of the season, which is very probable, H2H with Denizli is equal but the goal difference is in the favour of Denizli.

Under these circumtances, Samsun should win last 2 games to secure its place. Even this maybe not enough if Denizlispor wins the last 2 games too. But, since Fenerbahçe will most probably win against Denizli in the last round, Samsun should think that Denizli can only win this week and lose next weeks so , if they win against Malatya and Diyarbakır in the last round, they can survive.So, this game against Malatya will be decisive for them.

On the other hand, Malatyaspor with their decent squad deserves to be in the league in my opinion. Last week they will play against Gaziantepspor and if they win this week, even a draw in the last game can be enough considering Denizli wont win against Fener but since H2H is in favour of Denizlispor against Malatya, Malatya should win remaining 2 games .
If Malatya wont take 6 poinst but 4, they should hope only Denizli to lose which is very probable against Fenerbahçe. Becasue, if both Denizli and Malatya takes 4 poinst in the last 2 games, Denizli will survive.

So it is almost a must win week for both Samsun, Malatya and Denzilispor. Especially, considering the last week game against Fenerbahçe, Denizli must win this week against Rizespor away from home to keep the hopes alive. If they dont, even a draw in Malatya game will make both Samsun and Malatya hopefull to stay in the league 1 more week.
But, even if Denizli wont win this week, Samsun has no big chances imo, since H2H is in favour of Malatya.

Under these circumtances my bets will be ( Odds are from Sportingbet ) ;

Malatyaspor v Samsunspor ; Malatyaspor @2.05 7/10

Rizespor v Denzlispor ; Denizlispor @1.85 7/10
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:14   #3 (permalink)
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2006-05-07 Beşiktaş - Galatasaray

Well, actually nothing to say . Beşiktaş won the cup and reached the goal for team for this season. Galatasaray is still figting for the title and hopes Fenerbahçe to lose point/s. I just cant see Galatasaray losing any points against Beşiktaş, where the president of the Beşiktaş already said that they want Galatasaray to be the Champion not Fenerbahçe. Even the players of Beşiktaş will still play for their honnor, I cant see them after 120 minutes cup game, being fresh 90 minutes against Galatasaray. Galatasaray will most probably win and I am confident. Take it.

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Old 05-05-2006, 12:23   #4 (permalink)
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Yaman...

Happy to see you another forum

Rizespor v Denizlispor

BE CAREFULL...
Rizespor and Samsunspor are both from BlackSea Region..
As already we know these regions team like each other.
Rizespor may play for Samsunspor.
i am waiting some news.


Beşiktaş v Galatasaray

Everyone (except Fenerbahce fans)
want to Galatasaray to win.Fenerbhace were loved by only their fan...Other fans hate Fenerbahce..
Due to wrong strategy of previous Fenerbahce club's president.This is importan fact..And there were
many annocument from president of Besiktas,
Fenerbahce,Galatasaray realted to this match.
The most interesting one was Besiktas president said
"i hope Galatasaray will be champion"
Very suspicious match...Most of the people
think that Besiktas will not play with full force
and Galatasaray win....Obviously it is not "fixed".
But considering all facts, previous years experience
etc.etc. it is sure that Besiktas will play soft.

And consider other facts
a- Season is over for Besiktas.
b- They are now walking on clouds.
c- Besiktas played hard 120 minutes match at wednesday.

Galatasaray should win against friend(!) Besiktas
who is unmotivated, tired, drunk(!)

Galatasaray is main bet for this round for me.

Pick: Galatasaray to win Odd: 1.8 Confidence: High
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Old 05-05-2006, 13:06   #5 (permalink)
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Thx my friend, right back at you
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Old 05-05-2006, 15:35   #6 (permalink)
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Beşiktaş v Galatasaray

Everyone (except Fenerbahce fans)
want to Galatasaray to win.Fenerbhace were loved by only their fan...Other fans hate Fenerbahce..
Due to wrong strategy of previous Fenerbahce club's president.This is importan fact..And there were
many annocument from president of Besiktas,
Fenerbahce,Galatasaray realted to this match.
The most interesting one was Besiktas president said
"i hope Galatasaray will be champion"
Very suspicious match...Most of the people
think that Besiktas will not play with full force
and Galatasaray win....Obviously it is not "fixed".
But considering all facts, previous years experience
etc.etc. it is sure that Besiktas will play soft.

And consider other facts
a- Season is over for Besiktas.
b- They are now walking on clouds.
c- Besiktas played hard 120 minutes match at wednesday.

Galatasaray should win against friend(!) Besiktas
who is unmotivated, tired, drunk(!)

Galatasaray is main bet for this round for me.

Pick: Galatasaray to win Odd: 1.8 Confidence: High
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2006-05-07 Beşiktaş - Galatasaray

Well, actually nothing to say . Beşiktaş won the cup and reached the goal for team for this season. Galatasaray is still figting for the title and hopes Fenerbahçe to lose point/s. I just cant see Galatasaray losing any points against Beşiktaş, where the president of the Beşiktaş already said that they want Galatasaray to be the Champion not Fenerbahçe. Even the players of Beşiktaş will still play for their honnor, I cant see them after 120 minutes cup game, being fresh 90 minutes against Galatasaray. Galatasaray will most probably win and I am confident. Take it.

Pick: A, Odds: 1.80, Stake: 9, Bookmaker: Sportingbet


I dont like playing the wise guy but this scenario was on 2 years ago when everyone was sure Galatasaray would let 'friends' Trabzonspor win to prevent Fenerbahçe. However, they beat Trabzonspor in Trabzon exactly on 33rd week and Fenerbahçe were champions in Denizli. Plus, Trabzonspor and Galatasaray have a much stronger connection than Galatasaray and Beşiktaş have. Choice is yours but bet reasonable and care about the history. Galatasaray is playing Beşiktaş not Gaziantepspor...
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Old 05-05-2006, 16:28   #7 (permalink)
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Nice work boys...getting more crowded and better here...Keep it up...
I won't touch many of the matches this week here...
May stick my nose into Rize-Denizli (odds are lower than expected tough) and Konya against Sivas is another option for me...But needs more study, but we got time, don't we?
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Old 05-05-2006, 17:15   #8 (permalink)
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hello guys i have one more dilemm what game in turkey in finel time is draw please tell me.
i have bad luck in this week I can't belive how ....: wall: wall
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Old 06-05-2006, 01:44   #9 (permalink)
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Besiktas won the cup final in Izmir by beating Fenerbahce in extra time.
Their mission is fulfilled now, nothing has remained to play for, and they are already in uefa cups.” A motivated Galatasaray will keep its championship hopes till the last game. I do not know if it will finish over 2 goals but I know that Galatasaray will take all three points. Eric Gerets stated that this is the game of the year and warned his players to be very carefull and not to make mistakes. Saidu is suspended and Volkan will replace him.Ergun will start together with Ilic , and the strikers Hakan Sukur and Necati will bring the 3 pionts.Hasan Kabze is injured.Galatasaray staff made the payment to the players in order to motivate them (2.5 million $)
Besiktas in 16 total home games lost 26 points.They won only six and lost six and draw 4 matches . They last won in 5th March in Inonu stadium. Demiroren , the president of Besiktas faced Galatasaray 4 times and still he didn`t see his team winning . Besiktas is aimless in this match and the players will keep their feet away from difficult positions . Galatasaray is the team that needs the points and will force from the very beginning. The whole staff and crew of both teams is against Fenerbahce and its President Aziz Yildirim. Both teams hate Fenerbahce and I am sure that Besiktas will not play hard in order to stop Galatasaray run which is at the same points with Fenerbahce but second because of average . Besiktas will be cup drank” and that will be the reason of their lost . You will see these headlines on the newspapers on Monday. The presidents assistants of both teams were caught in a dinner ,that means a lot of thing to me . These two teams have got marvelous relations and therefore it will not be a difficult task for Galatasaray to take the three given points from Besiktas .


Now my opinion is that yes, history puts fear in us but besiktas must be very tired after the cup game, they won and celebrated and they simply don't care about this game!!!! Galatasary is in a must win situation and even if besiktas is serious, the motivation is huge for gala! Besiktas home stats show they aren't that good by 6wins, 4 draws and 6 losses!

I'm going on GALATASARAY with full stakes to win it!
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I'll be backing Galatasaray at Besiktas
I expect Fenerbahce to win also!

More tomorrow if I can

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Old 06-05-2006, 10:06   #11 (permalink)
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i will not write who is suspended or injured.
NO MANNER..This rounds are typical motivation
and calculations rounds...

Lot of calculation...Lot of scenario...Lot of speculation...

Rizespor v Denizlispor:

Many scenario...Which one correct ?
-Galatasaray lobby happy if Denizli win because Denizli
will play Fenerbahce at last week.if Denizli won Rize
then they will have big hope and they will fight against Fenerbahce.
-Rize+Samsun are both BlackSea region and Rize
may play for Samsun
-Rize+Samsun are both BlackSea region but situation
is different.Normally there are big challenge..
Something are happening at closed door sure.
But we dont know.

NO-BET

Ankara BB Spor v Trabzonspor

Both team have something to play.
Both team are capable of scoring easily.
Both team are not conviencing at defence.
it looks like both team will score and it will NOT be ended 1-1.
i mean this match will be OVER.

Pick: OVER 2.5 Odd: 1.7 Confidence: Low/Medium




Diyarbakirspor v Gençlerbirliği

Diyarbakir relegated..No chance..
Genclerbirlgi has some inside problem due to changin football direcetor.
Who know what will happen...


Kayserispor v V.Manisa

OVER-ish team Manisa will play interesting Kayseri.
Kayseri will win if they want to go UEFA.
i am not sure Kayseri want UEFA-ticket.
This round i will not take OVER for Manisa.
Yes Manisa is OVER-ish but Kayseri have trouble at
scoring despite last 5-0 big victory and Manisa
not sure what will they do.



Malatyaspor v Samsunspor

Big match...
Losing means relegating..
They are ALONE in THE DARK..
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Sport Football (Turkey)
Event Rizespor-Denizlispor
Selection Away Win
Strength 5/10
Date 06/05/2006
Bookmaker/Price Gamebookers @ 1.80 (Back)
  • Reasoning Last year at that time, all the teams in the relagaiton zone won nearly all the matches at the last weeks...So I don't expect ny other result..Rizespor is a strong team but I don't believe players will want to win the match that match for new speculations...Denizli has got skilled players like Yusuf to deal with pressure at that situations. Last week they won 1-0 tough they played ten man for the most part of the match...No supporters due to Rize's suspension...
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Very good day in Turkey ;

Kayserispor 7 v V.Manisaspor 2

Malatyaspor 3 v Samsunspor 0

Ankaraspor 0 v Trabzonspor 2

Diyarbakırspor 0 v Gençlerbirliği 2

Rizespor 1 v Denizlispor 2

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Possible Scenario On Relegation ;

This is one of the most interesting weeks maybe the most interseting one since the beginning of season. I beleive that Malatyaspor will manage to stay in the league and Denizli, Samsun, Diyarbakır will relegate.

Becasue of what I think, I beleive this is the most possible scenario :

Since in the event of a tie the matches between the teams will be decisive, and since Malatya won the first game against Samsunspor, a draw is not enough for Samsun. They should win it in order to keep the hopes alive.
But, what is very bad for Samsun is that even if they have the same points with Denizli at the end of the season, which is very probable, H2H with Denizli is equal but the goal difference is in the favour of Denizli.

Under these circumtances, Samsun should win last 2 games to secure its place. Even this maybe not enough if Denizlispor wins the last 2 games too. But, since Fenerbahçe will most probably win against Denizli in the last round, Samsun should think that Denizli can only win this week and lose next weeks so , if they win against Malatya and Diyarbakır in the last round, they can survive.So, this game against Malatya will be decisive for them.

On the other hand, Malatyaspor with their decent squad deserves to be in the league in my opinion. Last week they will play against Gaziantepspor and if they win this week, even a draw in the last game can be enough considering Denizli wont win against Fener but since H2H is in favour of Denizlispor against Malatya, Malatya should win remaining 2 games .
If Malatya wont take 6 poinst but 4, they should hope only Denizli to lose which is very probable against Fenerbahçe. Becasue, if both Denizli and Malatya takes 4 poinst in the last 2 games, Denizli will survive.

So it is almost a must win week for both Samsun, Malatya and Denzilispor. Especially, considering the last week game against Fenerbahçe, Denizli must win this week against Rizespor away from home to keep the hopes alive. If they dont, even a draw in Malatya game will make both Samsun and Malatya hopefull to stay in the league 1 more week.
But, even if Denizli wont win this week, Samsun has no big chances imo, since H2H is in favour of Malatya.

Under these circumtances my bets will be ( Odds are from Sportingbet ) ;

Malatyaspor v Samsunspor ; Malatyaspor @2.05 7/10

Rizespor v Denzlispor ; Denizlispor @1.85 7/10
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i had little worry for Manisa_OVER and i
did not bet OVER despite everyweek bet on
Manisa matches OVER..

Then
Manisa said that me:
"NO worry..i am OVERish team"
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Congs Huspas and Yaman (Tebrikler arkadaşlar)
nice work as ever

I'll try last home match factor based also on trust to trains of the teams.
Today I have mainly one selection from League A (2. Division) mainly based on last home match and trust to the trainer...
I'll also try home win in Konya-Sivas (Sivas showed that they quit the league in the last home match , lost 5-0 against Kayseri; coach will not head the team next year, and Konya's last home match; Aykut Kocaman, Konya's coach is not a kind that easy come easy go )
Konya to win 1.90
Konya HT/FT 3.1


But not recommended, cos' both teams actually will play for pride...

Here's the main pick

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Sport Football (Turkey)
Event Usakspor - Elazigspor (2. League)
Selection Home Win
Strength 4/10
Date 07/05/2006
Bookmaker/Price Expekt @ 2.55 (Back)
Reasoning Firstly, Uşakspor does no have to win that match; They're 14. in the table with 37 points.They are relaxed, safe but still they showed that they play passionate football even against must-win teams...Celal Kıbrızlı, coach, is a passionate, experienced man, once worked in Super Leugue, and Polonia, too...They secured to stay in the league after he came and they'll play to win at their last home match as I know him...
Elazığ mathematically still have hopes for play-off's (to reach the 6. position) but they know it is too hard...They should win last two matches and opponets (İstanbul and Ordu) should lose both..Trainer, Adnan Şentürk, resigned last week, after they lost at home...The chairman declared that he would quit this year...
Hard to reach the trustable team news but seems they will give change to some youngsters as well...

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I totally agree with Konyaspor pick. But, a team that lost big a week ago is always dangerous for me.

However, I agree your reasonings and expect Konyaspor to win today.
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I totally agree with Konyaspor pick. But, a team that lost big a week ago is always dangerous for me.

However, I agree your reasonings and expect Konyaspor to win today.
True, that is what I worry and why I said not recommended...I put some money but let's hope a last home pitch passion from Konya
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Lot of calculation.
But last relegated team mostly depends on
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"Besiktas-Galatasaray" match.
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Ankaragücü - Gaziantepspor

if Ankaragucu will win against Sivas at last week,
they will be secure is SURE.
Ankaragucu will win against Sivas is sure for me.
So losing today against Gaziantep is not nothng.
Gaziantep are at more danger.
if Ankaragucu and Gaziantep are both well calculated
scenarios, Gaziantep will NOT loose today is sure.

if we talk about soccer not mathematic,
we see that both team are nearly same level.

Considering all mathematical calculation,
potential of teams, i think that Gaziantep will NOT lose today.
Betting anatolian team is always cautious (except fixed one)
and we dont know how Ankaragucu club's director feelings on calculation.

i reduced my confidence to medium.
Normally it was High.

Pick: (x2) = Gaziantep will not lose Odd: 1.5 Confidence: Medium


Fenerbahce - Erciyesspor

Erciyesspor is good team.But recent weeks they are playing for nothing and losing.Leage is OVER for them.

For fenerbahce;
Defensive midfielder Aurelio suspended.
Alex is doubhfull.
No need to say Fenerbahce will be motivated.
Homewin odd is joke..
it is wise to wait match squad.
And at the warm up stage we should see Erciyesspor's players motivation.
They are hopeless or eager to do something


Besiktas - Galatasaray

As i previewed before, Galatasaray will win today...

Pick: Galatasaray to win Odd: 1.8 Confidence: High


Konyaspor v Sivasspor

Both teams are waiitng next year.

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