Swiss Leagues (6-7 May 06) - The Punters Lounge

meatman · 04-05-2006, 05:27

Saturday 6 May 2006
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Aarau v St Gallen (16:45 BST)	2.00	3.75	4.20	101%
FC Zürich v Yverdon (16:45 BST)	1.31	5.70	14.50	101%
Neuchatel Xamax v Grasshoppers (16:45 BST)	3.50	3.55	2.22	102%
Schaffhausen v Basel (16:45 BST)	7.00	4.60	1.57	100%
Sunday 7 May 2006
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Young Boys v Thun (15:15 BST)	1.63	3.70	6.20	105%

meatman · 04-05-2006, 05:28

here are some proper odds

Aarau FC - St. Gallen	2	2.05	3.20	3.25	06.05.2006 - 17:45
Zurich FC - Yverdon	2	1.30	4.50	8.75	06.05.2006 - 17:45
Xamax Neuchatel - Grasshoppers Zurich	2	3.10	3.15	2.10	06.05.2006 - 17:45
Schaffhausen FC - Basel FC	2	4.85	3.55	1.58	06.05.2006 - 17:45
Young Boys Bern - Thun	2	1.70	3.45	4.13	07.05.2006 - 16:15
Young Boys Bern - Basel FC	18	2.87	3.09	2.23	10.05.2006 - 19:30

libi71 · 04-05-2006, 07:05

1.	Basel	33	22	9	2	80:36	75

2.	Zürich	34	21	9	4	80:34	72
3.	Grasshoppers	34	14	12	8	44:32	54

4.	Young Boys	33	14	11	8	51:42	53
5.	Thun	34	13	7	14	46:51	46
6.	St. Gallen	34	10	7	17	48:55	37
7.	Schaffhausen	34	7	12	15	32:48	33
8.	Yverdon	34	9	5	20	36:57	32

9.	Aarau	34	7	10	17	28:63	31

10.	Neuchâtel Xamax	34	8	6	20	40:67	30

szaku · 06-05-2006, 09:29

hello libi71 what about aarau - st gallen ? Aarau change the manager and today they must win if they want to play in first league next season and st gallen is very poor away. but i not so sure how aarau play now because their form is really bad. Could you advise me aarau win today or no bet ?

libi71 · 06-05-2006, 09:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by szaku

hello libi71 what about aarau - st gallen ? Aarau change the manager and today they must win if they want to play in first league next season and st gallen is very poor away. but i not so sure how aarau play now because their form is really bad. Could you advise me aarau win today or no bet ?

Hi Szaku

I will give my usual previews later today, next 2-3 hours probably. Aarau had a good match on Wednesday against Schaffhausen, they were fighting and created more chances than their opponents. On the negative side, they lost attacker Bieli.
St. Gallen is basically safe now, so motivation might have dropped quite some for them.

Gitarra · 06-05-2006, 09:52

Swiss Legue how many team relagate and europe etc?

1.and2. CL? 3.Uefa?4.Intertot?

and 10.relaget,9.play of for not relegate?

libi71 · 06-05-2006, 09:56

Team news:

Young Boys - Thun (0:0, 1:1, 1:1)
Missing: Everson; Gerber, Di Fabio, Orman, Aegerter
Doubtful: Yakin; -

Schaffhausen - Basel (0:1, 1:2, 1:1)
Missing: Todisco, Pesenti, Rama, Soufiani; Dzombic, Yakin
Doubtful: -; Ergic

Zürich - Yverdon (2:0, 1:1, 3:0)
Missing: Di Jorio; El Haimour, N'Diaye, Jaquet
Doubtful: Filipescu; -

Xamax - Grasshoppers (3:0, 0:0, 2:2)
Missing: Besle, Lubamba, Rey, Maraninchi, Mangane; Peralta, Viveros
Doubtful: Hürlimann; Eduardo.

Aarau - St. Gallen (1:4, 1:2, 1:1)
Missing: Burgmeier, Berisha, Simo, Schenker, Schmid; Alex, Cerrone, Koubsky
Doubtful: Bieli; -

libi71 · 06-05-2006, 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gitarra

Swiss Legue how many team relagate and europe etc?

1.and2. CL? 3.Uefa?4.Intertot?

and 10.relaget,9.play of for not relegate?

1st CL qualification
2nd/3rd UEFA Cup
4th Intertot (I think only one place anymore)
9th playoff against 2nd of Challenge League
10th direct relegation

Gitarra · 06-05-2006, 10:03

Thanks lib70...Then Xamax,Aarau,Yverdon and Schaffhausen play for not relegate..Grass and YB play for Uefa,I think Basel is the Champion,Zurich 2. finish the league..

libi71 · 06-05-2006, 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gitarra

Thanks lib70...Then Xamax,Aarau,Yverdon and Schaffhausen play for not relegate..Grass and YB play for Uefa,I think Basel is the Champion,Zurich 2. finish the league..

Basel - Zurich will clash last round, so there is still a small possibility for Zurich to catch Basel, if Basel was to drop points against Schaffhausen and YB (next Wednesday).

libi71 · 06-05-2006, 10:45

Challenge League

Saturday 6 May 2006
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
FC Vaduz v Wohlen (16:30 BST)	1.95	3.20	3.50	112%
Winterthur v Bellinzona (16:30 BST)	2.40	3.25	2.60	111%
Sunday 7 May 2006
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Baden v Kriens (15:00 BST)	1.83	3.40	3.50	113%
Chiasso v Juventus Zürich (15:00 BST)	1.61	3.50	5.45	109%
Lausanne v FC Wil (15:00 BST)	1.36	4.70	7.00	109%
Locarno v Baulmes (15:00 BST)	1.83	3.40	3.85	110%
Luzern v Lugano (15:00 BST)	1.35	4.33	7.00	112%
Meyrin v Chaux-de-Fonds (15:00 BST)	4.00	3.40	1.72	113%
Sion v Concordia (15:00 BST)	1.25	5.00	9.00	112%

1.	FC Luzern	32	22	7	3	65 : 31	73
2.	FC Lausanne-Sport	32	20	7	5	61 : 38	67
3.	FC Sion	32	20	6	6	57 : 24	66
4.	FC Chiasso	32	16	8	8	45 : 29	56
5.	FC La Chaux-de-Fonds	31	13	12	6	55 : 41	51
6.	FC Wil 1900	32	14	8	10	57 : 49	50
7.	FC Wohlen	32	14	7	11	47 : 35	49
8.	FC Vaduz	32	13	6	13	57 : 51	45
9.	AC Bellinzona	32	12	9	11	43 : 41	45
10.	AC Lugano	32	10	11	11	39 : 46	41
11.	FC Baulmes	32	9	12	11	35 : 43	39
12.	SC Kriens	31	9	9	13	41 : 55	36
13.	FC Concordia BS	32	9	9	14	41 : 55	36
14.	FC Winterthur	32	9	6	17	57 : 52	33
15.	SC YF Juventus	32	7	13	12	37 : 52	31
16.	FC Baden	32	6	8	18	29 : 56	26
17.	FC Locarno	32	6	6	20	31 : 58	24
18.	FC Meyrin	32	1	10	21	23 : 64	13

Gitarra · 06-05-2006, 10:47

Ok but Schaffhausen miss their best two forward Rama(5 goal) and Todisco(6 goal) and Basel hat not important missin play with full squad and how can Schaffhausen to score I dont know..Schaffhausen play bad in home and can only 1 time win..basel look good for me with handikap..

vasily · 06-05-2006, 10:51

libi you wrote missing players but which player is whose team player i dont know.Pls write the team next to the player.

libi71 · 06-05-2006, 10:52

In the CL, there are again 3 matches I am interested in, according to my plan:

Lucerne (1) - Lugano (10)
Lausanne (2) - Wil (6)
Sion (3) - Concordia (13)

Lucerne is almost through, they need one more point to secure 1st place and with that direct promotion. Over 10'000 tickets have been sold for Sunday already, a number which would even be very good for a Super League match. I don't think they will take any chances and will go for the 3 points nevertheless.

Lausanne and Sion are battling it out for 2nd place and a promotion playoff. Their opponents have nothing to play for, which means no pressure but as well less motivation.

I am going again for the 3 promotion apirants, has proven profitable as of yet:

3/10 Lucerne @1.33 (Bet365)
3/10 Lausanne @1.36 (Bet365)
3/10 Sion @1.25 (Bet365)

libi71 · 06-05-2006, 11:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasily

libi you wrote missing players but which player is whose team player i dont know.Pls write the team next to the player.

vasily, it is pretty easy. If we take this match

Young Boys - Thun (0:0, 1:1, 1:1)
Missing: Everson; Gerber, Di Fabio, Orman, Aegerter
Doubtful: Yakin; -

Then all players before the ; belong to the first team, all after it to the second.
So Young Boys is missing Everson, while all the other players are missing for Thun.
Same goes for the doubtful players (in this case Yakin for YB and none for Thun).

libi71 · 06-05-2006, 11:09

BTW, all of today's Super League matches will start at 16:45 BST and not 19:30

vasily · 06-05-2006, 11:38

thx libi,i couldn't notice the ;

davidmphill · 06-05-2006, 11:44

Great work as ever libi.

libi71 · 06-05-2006, 14:39

Schaffhausen - Basel
As has been pointed out, Schaffhausen miss their two top goal scorers today. Merenda who came in start of this year has not yet been able to up goal production significantly (2 goals). Schaffhausen needs points against relegation, but have a dreadful record at home (only one home win). Stadium might be sold out for the first time and as well for a first time, a match from Schaffhausen is broadcasted live. Schaffhausen will play last match at St.Gallen, where they certainly hope for points. Schaffhausen played a pretty equal match in Aarau and they reacted in stile against the 1-0 12 minutes from the end, equalising and almost scoring the winner in the end.

Basel want to secure the title as fast as possible, today could be enough if they get more points than Zurich. Basel have full squad back basically, only Ergic might not play, while Smiljanic might come back, which would give the defense more stability. Kuzmanovic might start again for Degen and Carignano will probably get some minutes again after Wednesday.
Basel had a pretty mediocre match in Yverdon, profiting from the fact that Yverdon was just not dangerous in front of the goal until it was too late. The manager and team are concentrated and experienced in this kind of situation, so the pressure should not be a problem, while the deep bench should give them more freshness.

Basel needs this win more than Schaffhausen and have won all 3 matches against the bottom teams in the last weeks (2x 5-1, 1x 3-1), so this looks pretty safe. I am taking the handicap to get a bit more value.

7/10 Basel AH -1 @1.85 (Bet365)

06-05-2006, 09:29	#4 (permalink)
szaku Newbie Punter Join Date: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 4	Re: Swiss Leagues (6-7 May 06) hello libi71 what about aarau - st gallen ? Aarau change the manager and today they must win if they want to play in first league next season and st gallen is very poor away. but i not so sure how aarau play now because their form is really bad. Could you advise me aarau win today or no bet ?

06-05-2006, 09:52	#6 (permalink)
Gitarra HAMBURG Join Date: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 195	Re: Swiss Leagues (6-7 May 06) Swiss Legue how many team relagate and europe etc? 1.and2. CL? 3.Uefa?4.Intertot? and 10.relaget,9.play of for not relegate? Last edited by Gitarra; 06-05-2006 at 09:52.

06-05-2006, 09:56	#7 (permalink)
libi71 Swiss Fondue Punter Join Date: 31 Mar 2005 Location: Basel, Switzerland Posts: 885	Re: Swiss Leagues (6-7 May 06) Team news: Young Boys - Thun (0:0, 1:1, 1:1) Missing: Everson; Gerber, Di Fabio, Orman, Aegerter Doubtful: Yakin; - Schaffhausen - Basel (0:1, 1:2, 1:1) Missing: Todisco, Pesenti, Rama, Soufiani; Dzombic, Yakin Doubtful: -; Ergic Zürich - Yverdon (2:0, 1:1, 3:0) Missing: Di Jorio; El Haimour, N'Diaye, Jaquet Doubtful: Filipescu; - Xamax - Grasshoppers (3:0, 0:0, 2:2) Missing: Besle, Lubamba, Rey, Maraninchi, Mangane; Peralta, Viveros Doubtful: Hürlimann; Eduardo. Aarau - St. Gallen (1:4, 1:2, 1:1) Missing: Burgmeier, Berisha, Simo, Schenker, Schmid; Alex, Cerrone, Koubsky Doubtful: Bieli; -

06-05-2006, 10:03	#9 (permalink)
Gitarra HAMBURG Join Date: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 195	Re: Swiss Leagues (6-7 May 06) Thanks lib70...Then Xamax,Aarau,Yverdon and Schaffhausen play for not relegate..Grass and YB play for Uefa,I think Basel is the Champion,Zurich 2. finish the league..

06-05-2006, 10:47	#12 (permalink)
Gitarra HAMBURG Join Date: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 195	Re: Swiss Leagues (6-7 May 06) Ok but Schaffhausen miss their best two forward Rama(5 goal) and Todisco(6 goal) and Basel hat not important missin play with full squad and how can Schaffhausen to score I dont know..Schaffhausen play bad in home and can only 1 time win..basel look good for me with handikap..

06-05-2006, 10:51	#13 (permalink)
vasily Seasoned Punter Join Date: 19 Jan 2006 Location: Where the two continents meet-in the cultural capital of 2010 Age: 23 Posts: 339	Re: Swiss Leagues (6-7 May 06) libi you wrote missing players but which player is whose team player i dont know.Pls write the team next to the player.

06-05-2006, 10:52	#14 (permalink)
libi71 Swiss Fondue Punter Join Date: 31 Mar 2005 Location: Basel, Switzerland Posts: 885	Re: Swiss Leagues (6-7 May 06) In the CL, there are again 3 matches I am interested in, according to my plan: Lucerne (1) - Lugano (10) Lausanne (2) - Wil (6) Sion (3) - Concordia (13) Lucerne is almost through, they need one more point to secure 1st place and with that direct promotion. Over 10'000 tickets have been sold for Sunday already, a number which would even be very good for a Super League match. I don't think they will take any chances and will go for the 3 points nevertheless. Lausanne and Sion are battling it out for 2nd place and a promotion playoff. Their opponents have nothing to play for, which means no pressure but as well less motivation. I am going again for the 3 promotion apirants, has proven profitable as of yet: 3/10 Lucerne @1.33 (Bet365) 3/10 Lausanne @1.36 (Bet365) 3/10 Sion @1.25 (Bet365)

06-05-2006, 11:09	#16 (permalink)
libi71 Swiss Fondue Punter Join Date: 31 Mar 2005 Location: Basel, Switzerland Posts: 885	Re: Swiss Leagues (6-7 May 06) BTW, all of today's Super League matches will start at 16:45 BST and not 19:30

06-05-2006, 11:38	#17 (permalink)
vasily Seasoned Punter Join Date: 19 Jan 2006 Location: Where the two continents meet-in the cultural capital of 2010 Age: 23 Posts: 339	Re: Swiss Leagues (6-7 May 06) thx libi,i couldn't notice the ;

06-05-2006, 11:44	#18 (permalink)
davidmphill 260408 Join Date: 09 Feb 2005 Location: Colorado. Age: 36 Posts: 22,373 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Re: Swiss Leagues (6-7 May 06) Great work as ever libi. __________________ Gwlad, gwlad, pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad, Tra mor yn fur i'r bur hoff bau, O bydded i'r heniaith barhau.

06-05-2006, 14:39	#19 (permalink)
libi71 Swiss Fondue Punter Join Date: 31 Mar 2005 Location: Basel, Switzerland Posts: 885	Re: Swiss Leagues (6-7 May 06) Schaffhausen - Basel As has been pointed out, Schaffhausen miss their two top goal scorers today. Merenda who came in start of this year has not yet been able to up goal production significantly (2 goals). Schaffhausen needs points against relegation, but have a dreadful record at home (only one home win). Stadium might be sold out for the first time and as well for a first time, a match from Schaffhausen is broadcasted live. Schaffhausen will play last match at St.Gallen, where they certainly hope for points. Schaffhausen played a pretty equal match in Aarau and they reacted in stile against the 1-0 12 minutes from the end, equalising and almost scoring the winner in the end. Basel want to secure the title as fast as possible, today could be enough if they get more points than Zurich. Basel have full squad back basically, only Ergic might not play, while Smiljanic might come back, which would give the defense more stability. Kuzmanovic might start again for Degen and Carignano will probably get some minutes again after Wednesday. Basel had a pretty mediocre match in Yverdon, profiting from the fact that Yverdon was just not dangerous in front of the goal until it was too late. The manager and team are concentrated and experienced in this kind of situation, so the pressure should not be a problem, while the deep bench should give them more freshness. Basel needs this win more than Schaffhausen and have won all 3 matches against the bottom teams in the last weeks (2x 5-1, 1x 3-1), so this looks pretty safe. I am taking the handicap to get a bit more value. 7/10 Basel AH -1 @1.85 (Bet365)