Germany - Bundesliga (17 May 08)

[McFly]

Saturday 17 May 2008	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
1. FC Nürnberg v FC Schalke 04 (14:30BST)	2.60	3.95	2.74	100.27 %	Details »
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Bayer 04 Leverkusen v Werder Bremen (14:30BST)	2.70	3.70	2.75	100.43 %	Details »
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Borussia Dortmund v VfL Wolfsburg (14:30BST)	3.70	3.75	2.16	99.99 %	Details »
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Eintracht Frankfurt v MSV Duisburg (14:30BST)	1.65	4.00	5.50	103.79 %	Details »
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FC Bayern München v Hertha BSC Berlin (14:30BST)	1.44	4.80	10.00	100.06 %	Details »
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Hamburger SV v Karlsruher SC (14:30BST)	1.37	4.75	9.50	104.57 %	Details »
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Hannover 96 v Energie Cottbus (14:30BST)	1.75	3.75	5.50	101.99 %	Details »
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VfB Stuttgart v Arminia Bielefeld (14:30BST)	1.60	4.70	6.00	100.44 %	Details »
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VfL Bochum v Hansa Rostock (14:30BST)	1.61	4.10	6.25	102.30 %	Details »
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[1907zico]

McFly any really safe bet in the German leagues where I could go all in with 30 euros?

For me all seem quite dangerous atleast in the 1.Bundesliga

[Footie Addict]

Going on home form Stuttgart have to be fancied - they have won 6 on the bounce at home, including vs Frankfurt, Hamburg & Werder Bremen. They could do with the win too, as they are tied with 3 other teams for 4th place. Bielefeld need to match whatever Nurnburg can get - but Nurnberg are playing Schalke and probably won't win. Bielefeld probably aren't good enough anyway, they have a W1D5L10 away record.

[Honest Al the punters pal]

I like the look of the DNB option for a Werder Bremen away win against Bayer Leverkusen. Werder Bremen's good form just seems to continue....

[DeMMa]

Stuttgart @ $1.50 EASY!!!

[McFly]

At first glance, Hannover and Frankfurt should be likely winner of their home games.

At least the best odds for Hannover are okay.

[danbrujto]

Hello to everybody.
McFly would like to have an opinion about Bayern game.I've read that Toni,Ribery,will be back (they will play?),so this is a plus for them if they will put effort to win the game (as i think they will do),but what i would like to ask is about the best defense record+Kahn's farewell game....i can imagine an extra effort to keep a clean sheet and a will to play a great game at home from Kahn.In a local book i got a great 2,30 for the No Gol option (means one of the two teams keep a clean sheet)....What do you think about it?
And a -1EH for Bayern at 2,10 how do you see that?
Thanx alot for your always very appreciated words!

[McFly]

Originally Posted by danbrujto

Hello to everybody.
McFly would like to have an opinion about Bayern game.I've read that Toni,Ribery,will be back (they will play?),so this is a plus for them if they will put effort to win the game (as i think they will do),but what i would like to ask is about the best defense record+Kahn's farewell game....i can imagine an extra effort to keep a clean sheet and a will to play a great game at home from Kahn.In a local book i got a great 2,30 for the No Gol option (means one of the two teams keep a clean sheet)....What do you think about it?
And a -1EH for Bayern at 2,10 how do you see that?
Thanx alot for your always very appreciated words!

Hello danbrujto,

Ribéry, Toni and Klose have been in training this week and thus are likely to play, environment expects the first choice team. As you say, motivation is still given, defense will try to support Kahn tomorrow and Bayern probably won't be passive in offense as well. I like both of your bets, especially the clean sheet is a smart one.

[someonem]

hiya .as for me nurnberg win and stutgart dont win .

[chiqo]

Stuttgart @ $1.50 EASY!!!

that´s not an explaining why Stuttgart will be "EASY" for you.

Bielefeld lost only 2 of the last 10 rounds (Bayern and Cottbus). They get one point at least from Dortmund (2-2), 3 points from Leverkusen (1-0) and Karlsruhe (1-0). They know that they need one point to remain in Bundesliga. Stuttgart have the worst chance to come to UEFA Cup. They lost the last two in a row (Wolfsburg 4-0,Dortmund 3-2). I watched Stuttgart at Wolfsburg and they´re so bad - I think it´s not sure that Stuttgart will win.
Their keeper Ulreich is 19 and I´m not sure if he can handle the pressure he will have. Stuttgart miss Tasci,skipper Meira,Pardo,Marcia and first keeper Schäfer is exempted after some big mistakes in the last couple of weeks.

A nobet match for me!

[chiqo]

Bayern Munich - Hertha Berlin
Only 18 of the last 25 mets with Bayern were defeats for the capitals. Bayern Munich will say good bye to "General" Hitzfeld and skipper Oliver "Titan" Kahn. Riberý and Co. want to give Kahn and Hitzfeld these three points on their way. Bayern miss only Sagnol,Lucio and Altintop. Berlin miss Lucio,Schmidt,Ebert and Grahn. Simunic is also not available.

balance in total: 25-16-8
balance at munich: 18-4-2

bayern to win
over 2,5 goals

[1907zico]

Originally Posted by chiqo

that´s not an explaining why Stuttgart will be "EASY" for you.

Bielefeld lost only 2 of the last 10 rounds (Bayern and Cottbus). They get one point at least from Dortmund (2-2), 3 points from Leverkusen (1-0) and Karlsruhe (1-0). They know that they need one point to remain in Bundesliga. Stuttgart have the worst chance to come to UEFA Cup. They lost the last two in a row (Wolfsburg 4-0,Dortmund 3-2). I watched Stuttgart at Wolfsburg and they´re so bad - I think it´s not sure that Stuttgart will win.
Their keeper Ulreich is 19 and I´m not sure if he can handle the pressure he will have. Stuttgart miss Tasci,skipper Meira,Pardo,Marcia and first keeper Schäfer is exempted after some big mistakes in the last couple of weeks.

A nobet match for me!

Stuttgart is awesome at homegames. Awaygames are really bad, against Bayern they played on same level for quite a long time, but two awesome goals of Ribery made the score 4:1. Against Wolfsburg their keeper and the red card owned them.
Now at home and without Schäfer (sorry but worst keeper after Blazek in 1.Bundesliga) it will be much better, and motivation has to be very big, since they wont be able to keep Gomez another year, if they arent even in the UefaCup.. but we will see, it will be very interesting matches.

[chiqo]

but we will see, it will be very interesting matches.

for sure Zico,for sure.

It´ll be a very interessting round. We have 4 teams with 51 points. The UEFA Cups teams aren´t fix. Stuttgart,Leverkusen,Hamburg and Wolfsburg could get the nuts.

[1907zico]

Yeap I have a combo going with:
Stuttgart win
Bremen win
Bayern win
Wolfsburg win

But we will see, last combo ever.
Next year I will follow some Systems on PL, since I want to do some profit and not always loss

[chiqo]

Dortmund - Wolfsburg
Wolfsburg won 7 times away and is the 4th best away team. Only Bayern (35 points) and Schalke (27 points) have more points on the away table.
Dortmund miss 7 players and have to start with the young Höttecke as keeper. 58 goals against, Dortmunds problem is their defense. And they miss Kehl,Kovac and Degen for a good and solid defense work. Wolfsburg didn´t lose in one of their last 4 rounds. Bayern (0-0),Leverkusen (2-2),Frankfurt (2-3) and Stuttgart (4-0). They push their efforts from round to round. And I predict that Dortmund can´t stop the wolves with their b-team.

first leg: 4-0 win Wolfsburg
last season at the Signal Iduna Park 1-0

Wolfsburg to win

[McFly]

Nürnberg (0) AH @ 1.83 betdaq 5/10

Well, this one might easily give a game on the edge but I think preference slightly has to go to Nürnberg who definately have the (hopefully) advantage to run for their lives partly or at least their future with the FCN. The team has been showing morale and playing well widely but they miss the most chances in league for reason. Would be a shame to go down with this squad, offense needn't hide from Schalke here surely. The mostly good going in the former difficult home games in recent weeks gave them confidence and home advantage should play a role also. Chances for Nürnberg are not so bad considering Bielefeld play in Stuttgart but Nürnberg are obliged to win what is a challenge. Schalke still have the chance for place 2 but therefor they have to win plus Leverkusen must beat Bremen. Schalke are on a good run and partly played well but there were ups and downs from which Bochum and Hamburg couldn't profit though in Schalke's last away wins. Schalke at its best and Nürnberg will have a hard time but I'm more convinced that this will get a hard time for Schalke especially as Nürnberg simply must be aggressive and will probably show the usual courage in the line-up. Might be good for Koller/Charisteas that Krstajic is out for the guests.

Frankfurt @ 1.7 betfair 4/10

Eintracht Frankfurt should manage to beat Duisburg even though they are winless in seven where from six were lost. But play has improved recently so that the home defeat to Wolfsburg was a game on eye line and also at Schalke had problems with the Eintracht. Coach Funkel and the team can't be satisfied with the recent weeks though and this game is important to reflect the actually succesful season of the host. Spycher is out along Mahdavikia and Russ doubtful, so there may be a problem in defense, on the other hand I don't expect that much coming from the Duisburg offense. The guests are down after the 2-3 defeat to Bayern and may have bigger problems to motivate for the final game before the next relegation of the MSV. They could improve a little towards season end but there were often bloodless perfromances like in the relegation clash against Nürnberg where Duisburg were strangely passive. They might be the right opponent for Frankfurt who should proove to be the better side.

[Honest Al the punters pal]

McFly.... can you give me any up to date information on the teams and players for the Werder Bremen game? If Bremen have all of their players fit I think that they offer good value at 10/11 (1.90) to win with the DNB. I think the DNB is important as I know a draw would be enough to secure their Champions League place for next season. They obviously won't want to lose as Schalke could still end up with 64 points.
I think that Bayer seem to struggle recently when playing the 'top' teams...what is your opinion on this game please...
Cheers for any insite you may have!

[McFly]

Hannover @ 1.73 betdaq 5/10

Well, after the 1-6 to Werder, it's hard to trust Hannover but I'm quite convinced they win over Cottbus with another engaged home performance (unbeaten in six). H96 have impressed widely in the last few weeks and came to a few wins what should weight as much as the latest harmless performance in Bremen. Coach Hecking didn't like what he had to see from his team last weekend despite facing a strong Werder and he knows how to push his team therefor. The guests made a good job considering that Cottbus looked chanceless in winter. Home strength made rescue possible but they've hardly shown an ambitous away game. A big fight delivered them a point in Karlsruhe but I think Hannover can dominate this game what should bring them enough chances to nick it and thus improve the already good season of Hannover 96.

Bayern (-1.5) AH @ 2.02 bet365 4/10
clean sheet Bayern @ 2.3 PaddyPower 3/10

Bayern to keep a clean sheet was a good and proper idea of danbrujto so that I have a piece of a similar bet. Kahn with currently 20 conceded, might top the former Werder goalie Reck whose record is 22. Actually. Hertha shouldn't be much of a threat but sometimes they can play football over a certain period but consistency and form rather speak against the Hertha. Berlin looked like doing not more tha really necessary, well, in case of the win over Nürnberg, this was enough for the win even. They showed nothing special in the last few weeks but regular scoring and being unbeaten in six surely speaks for the guests. After all, I'd be surprised though if Bayern didn't win this and I rather expect a clear Bayern win. The handicap maybe is on the edge to be value but the championship aspect and the big day for Bayern with leaving Hitzfeld and Kahn let me believe in a pressing home side.

A small tribute to the the big Oliver Kahn at this place who quits after 14 years of outstanding work for Bayern (around 550 league games totally) with 8 championships and 6 cup victories plus the CL- and UEFA Cup win. He also won the EC but to be the no.1 in 2006 was denied by new Bayern coach Klinsmann.

A truly Bayern legend that has become much calmer over the years, he surely will be missed.

Oliver_Kahn.jpg kahn_dpa400.jpg Oliver-Kahn-durfte-auf-seine-alten-Tage-noch-einiges-erleben_77a4c175ba.jpg

[McFly]

Originally Posted by Honest Al the punters pal

McFly.... can you give me any up to date information on the teams and players for the Werder Bremen game? If Bremen have all of their players fit I think that they offer good value at 10/11 (1.90) to win with the DNB. I think the DNB is important as I know a draw would be enough to secure their Champions League place for next season. They obviously won't want to lose as Schalke could still end up with 64 points.
I think that Bayer seem to struggle recently when playing the 'top' teams...what is your opinion on this game please...
Cheers for any insite you may have!

Schneider,Kießling,Haggui and Sinkiewicz are out for Leverkusen (Freier doubtful) what doesn't change the recent face much though. Klasnic and Wiese are out for the guests.

yeh Leverkusen struggled against the big teams and did so often in the last few weeks, still I'm doing hard to fancy an outcome. I'm also leaning to Werder but an open game actually wouldn't surprise now where the sensitive and skilled Bayer team gained confidence at Rostock. Some more motivation on the host side is what I fear which then might compensate the usual more class and better form of Werder. Bremen may be satisfied with a draw as you say, so Werder may not storm blindly like they often did. Tough fixture really, I think I just away. Good luck.

[Honest Al the punters pal]

Originally Posted by McFly

Schneider,Kießling,Haggui and Sinkiewicz are out for Leverkusen (Freier doubtful) what doesn't change the recent face much though. Klasnic and Wiese are out for the guests.

yeh Leverkusen struggled against the big teams and did so often in the last few weeks, still I'm doing hard to fancy an outcome. I'm also leaning to Werder but an open game actually wouldn't surprise now where the sensitive and skilled Bayer team gained confidence at Rostock. Some more motivation on the host side is what I fear which then might compensate the usual more class and better form of Werder. Bremen may be satisfied with a draw as you say, so Werder may not storm blindly like they often did. Tough fixture really, I think I just away. Good luck.

This match is looking too close to call and so I have decided just to go on the over 2.5 goals. I hope this is right? I saw some statistics recently showing the last day Bundesliga 1 scores for the previous two seasons. It seems that most of your games (on the last day) finish over 2.5 goals. It was a very interesting and informative statistic...
Thank you for your comments McFly...