NHL Thu 11/1 - The Punters Lounge

Tulenos · 10-01-2007, 22:26

Some early odds

Florida Panthers @ Carolina Hurricanes (00:05 GMT)	3.05	1.40	104%
Montreal Canadiens @ Philadelphia Flyers (00:05 GMT)	1.50	2.70	104%
New York Islanders @ Boston Bruins (00:05 GMT)	2.16	1.76	103%
Ottawa Senators @ New York Rangers (00:05 GMT)	2.07	1.80	104%
Toronto Maple Leafs @ Buffalo Sabres (00:05 GMT)	3.16	1.38	104%
Washington Capitals @ Tampa Bay Lightning (00:35 GMT)	2.45	1.60	104%
Anaheim Mighty Ducks @ Dallas Stars (01:35 GMT)	1.96	1.87	105%
Calgary Flames @ Colorado Avalanche (02:05 GMT)	2.20	1.71	104%
Detroit Red Wings @ Phoenix Coyotes (02:05 GMT)	1.71	2.20	104%
Minnesota Wild @ Vancouver Canucks (03:05 GMT)	2.40	1.64	103%
San Jose Sharks @ Los Angeles Kings (03:35 GMT)	1.57	2.55	103%

Tulenos · 10-01-2007, 22:33

Hmm - can the Coyotes win again? The Red Wings recent record reads LLLW, no need to write about Phoenix who are yet to lose this year. Moreover, it Phx's 3rd game in 6 days, while it's Det's 4th in the same period - which might count at this time of year. Looks tempting. Will decide tomorrow.

expert · 10-01-2007, 22:34

ohoho, that looks like a fun day! But its friggin thursday...i hate thurdsdays...ok then well play the dogies on eleventh....
OK some eaaaarly looks
Coyotes at 2.20...let the streak continue...count me in...Hasek cant save shit on thursdays
Sabres on hadicap as Toronto is full of cripled players..and the coach just called his grandparents to come help in defence
Senators as a dog possible play
Bruins of course for me..in regulation
Cans...theyre more sick than Philly but kicked Trashers ass...lean
upset of the night - the Kings of LA
oooo Calgary...if the injured players return i have no problem with them
....

okay dont take this too serious...just thinking out loud, but sure looks good for a "dog thursday" again..

Tulenos · 10-01-2007, 22:41

Can't disagree with your leans - btw, Buffalo available @ 2.04 on the -1.5 cap.

The Clg/Col game is a derby too - anything can happen (but as you wrote they need some of the injured players to return).

Seriously, though, I'll hopefully have a deeper look tomorrow (if I have time during the day which doesn't look too likely).

expert · 10-01-2007, 22:53

pleased to be on your side...and looking forward to tommorows day in NHL...today was realy boring, nothing interesting and no looking for value that got my attention.

Tomorrow will have card with at least 4 plays, im sure of it.

Hopefully youll have some time for discusions mate.

Tulenos · 10-01-2007, 23:24

I can say even now I'm unlikely to be near the computer in the evening as I'm going to a party - might be before and after

expert · 11-01-2007, 09:45

After a semi deep lookup, have some early leans for tonights games (4 still missing and will be posted later)

Florida Panthers @ Carolina Hurricanes (00:05 GMT)
Looks like a clear HW for me, might even try the handicap in this one, as the odds are low. Florida played last night and beat Pens comforatbly 5-2, but ternds show they are just 1-7 playing b2b games with no rest and 0-4 when winning the previous night. Carolina won last time out 4-2 and leads the 06/07 series 2-1, with 2 in a row. Edge for Carolina could be low numnber of PP Florida is playing in recent times, Hurricanes averages 4 mins of PP per game more, but are without some inportant defenders and that should show sooner or later…On the other hand, oldie Belfour isnt having the best times lately and good form of Ward could be the big edge for Carolina. Lean to Carolina

Washington Capitals @ Tampa Bay Lightning (00:35 GMT)
Tight one so im skipping it, but the following read might be helpful…
If the Tampa Bay Lightning doesn't start winning soon, the team will likely begin dumping salary, reports the Ottawa Sun.
The Bolts have been shopping the likes of forward Vaclav Prospal for most of the season but the paper claims the interest level in him isn't high.
According to the Sun, the Lightning would like to upgrade their goaltending and the San Jose Sharks are getting ready to move Vesa Toskala.
Citing sources, the Sun claims San Jose GM Doug Wilson wants an offensive blueliner, and if the Bolts want Toskala, they'd have to toss Dan Boyle in a deal.

Anaheim Mighty Ducks @ Dallas Stars (01:35 GMT)
Passing this game - found no edge...anyway to tight to play on todays big card.

Calgary Flames @ Colorado Avalanche (02:05 GMT)
Hard match to call IMO. Have a lean on home team, as the Flames could be missing some important fire power upfront..other reason is that they..well pretty much suck when playing away from home, with only 5 wins from 19 matches…Wont be doing intensive looks ups in this one…have a lean on home team but there a far better matches on card today..so im skipping this one

Detroit Red Wings @ Phoenix Coyotes (02:05 GMT)
The only question mark is..can they contiunue the streak…Wings are in town and they won last match 9-2, last win for Coyotes at home vs. Detroit way back in 2004. IMO this game shouldnt be looked upon from trends point of view…its simply the question of motivation…are they still so motivated to win it again, crowd will surely be crazy tonight…we can not question the motivation of Wings players, they sure want to beat the hottest team in NHL. Dont know anything about this one, on paper Wings are clear favs..but anything could happen tonight in Phoenix. No leans for now

Minnesota Wild @ Vancouver Canucks (03:05 GMT)
This one really looks like a two bet game. Some of the strongest trends between those two i have ever seen in the NHL. Under is 7-0 in the last 7 meetings in Vancouver. Under is 5-2 in the last 7 meetings. Wild are 1-5-2 in the last 8 meetings in Vancouver. Home team is 4-0 in the last 4 meetings. Favorite is 4-0 in the last 4 meetings. Wild are 4-1 in the last 5 meetings.
Parish and Nummelin stil a question mark for the Wild, Cans in almost full strenght. Also Cans with a 3 days rest compared to Wild one day + traveling. Minny are 3-6-0-1 after 1 day rest when loosing last game, Cans 0-1 after W with three day rest. Heavy leans to Cans ML win and under 5. Also Minny really strugling as of late and Cans great with 7 in a row.

San Jose Sharks @ Los Angeles Kings (03:35 GMT)
Looks like a trick match, but after looking the stats, Sharks are strong favs for this one. Great trend for them when playing with no rest (11-1 in last 12), and have a good trend going on in h2h against the Kings. I especially think they will be fired up for scoring after yesterdays unbelievable bad luck against the Oilers, so counting for a BIG bounce back, might even consider backing them on -1.5…but LA looks really good when playing teams who sit at the top of the table..and they won their last h2h in San Jose…Sharks leading this years series 3-2 and are also 2-1 in LA. Lean to Sharks…as cant see Kings winning two in a row against them…but Garon is on fire lately and has three games in a row with SP over .930

expert · 11-01-2007, 13:38

Montreal Canadiens @ Philadelphia Flyers (00:05 GMT)
I like canadiens in this match, seems i have underestimated their will and improved in health against the Trashers, and they won last period of that match with 2-0, so no problem with stamina. For the Flyers Forsberg should be in line up, but IMO that doesnt represent only a small change in improvement of their games. Have looked their previous results, and they used their trip a xmas break to get some wins against home teams who were suffering from holiday sindrome. Im still thinking about this match, but the lean is on the Montreals side.
From Associated Press Sports: Forsberg has missed four games with a groin injury, but practiced Wednesday and said that he is ready to go."Everything's fine," he said. "And hopefully I'll be in the lineup for a while." Forsberg has struggled all season to perfect a skate for his balky right ankle, which was surgically repaired last May. He said that his troubles with his skate caused the groin injury. "Is it a hundred percent? No, it's not a hundred percent," he said. "But I have to play. My hope is that it will get to one hundred percent."

New York Islanders @ Boston Bruins (00:05 GMT)
Typical trend play and im taking it. Islanders defeated Rangers to end their cold streak, and that was simply a chart play, im going again on them tonight as they own the series against lately very bad Bruins. Not much more to add.

Ottawa Senators @ New York Rangers (00:05 GMT)
Tight match IMO and the goalies will be crucial in this one. Ludqvist was excelent both times those two met this year, with .964 and .971 SP, but was terrible in last match against Islanders with .800 SP. Emery on the other side seems more consistant and also both time very good ag. Rangers with one shotout. To tight match for eveno thinking about betting on. Lean to Ottawa because of better form.

Toronto Maple Leafs @ Buffalo Sabres (00:05 GMT)
PLAY OF THE DAY…No leans, this is the bet. Buffalo on handicap against injury plagued Leafs. I see nothing positive about Torontos visit to Buffalo. Sabres played match last night, but really they shouldnt struglle against a team who is having problems filling their ranks and organising their lines. But will wait until more is known about the status of some Leafs players.

nindza74 · 09.01.2007

Anaheim Mighty Ducks @ Dallas Stars (01:35 GMT)
After 5 losses i think Anahaim will win this one. But i dont have any news about injured players 4/10 Anaheim win

New York Islanders @ Boston Bruins (00:05 GMT)

NYI is in uptrend and Boston play is not so good in near past. H/H

Last match(es): Boston
Ottawa	Boston	5:2	1.90	4.50	3.70	details	09.01.2007
Boston	Philadelphia	4:3	1.95	4.55	3.85	details	06.01.2007
Boston	Toronto	2:10	2.25	4.40	2.80	details	04.01.2007
Toronto	Boston	5:1	2.30	4.25	2.70	details	01.01.2007
Nashville	Boston	5:0	1.95	4.50	3.75	details	30.12.2006
Chicago	Boston	3:5	2.25	4.25	2.90	details	29.12.2006
Columbus	Boston	5:4OT	2.35	4.20	2.60	details	26.12.2006
Boston	Montreal	4:2	2.75	4.29	2.45	details	23.12.2006
Boston	Vancouver	2:0	2.20	4.25	3.10	details	21.12.2006
Ottawa	Boston	2:7	1.95	4.50	3.65	details	19.12.2006

Last match(es): NY Islanders
NY Rangers	NY Islanders	3:5	2.10	4.35	3.20	details	09.01.2007
Carolina	NY Islanders	4:2	2.10	4.40	3.40	details	06.01.2007
New Jersey	NY Islanders	4:3	2.00	4.40	3.60	details	04.01.2007
NY Islanders	Philadelphia	2:3	1.93	4.70	3.60	details	02.01.2007
Buffalo	NY Islanders	3:1	1.90	4.60	4.30	details	01.01.2007
NY Islanders	New Jersey	0:2	2.45	4.25	2.70	details	30.12.2006
Ottawa	NY Islanders	2:0	2.05	4.50	3.70	details	27.12.2006
NY Islanders	NY Rangers	2:0	2.60	4.65	2.65	details	26.12.2006
NY Islanders	Columbus	4:0	2.15	4.40	3.40	details	23.12.2006
Carolina	NY Islanders	5:1	2.20	4.40	3.35	details	22.12.2006

Mutual matches Boston - NY Islanders
NHL 2006/2007			1	X	2
NY Islanders	Boston	4:1	2.45	4.30	2.55	details	14.10.2006
NHL 2005/2006			1	X	2
Boston	NY Islanders	1:3	2.16	4.55	3.26	details	11.03.2006
Boston	NY Islanders	3:4	2.10	4.65	3.10	details	28.01.2006
NY Islanders	Boston	5:2	2.54	4.45	2.40	details	12.11.2005
NY Islanders	Boston	4:3 OT	2.60	4.55	2.70	details	01.11.2005

all shows me a win for NYI and odds are droping i will take a chance 4/10

Tulenos · 11-01-2007, 14:38

Looks like all's been said. Would back Phx and NYI myself for the above reasons. Not too keen about a handicap play in the Buffalo match, but not saying it's a crazy pick. GL

Bill · 11-01-2007, 14:38

Tonight..We like a play on the Minnesota Vancouver NHL game tonight in Vancouver.
First matchup wise..this has for the most part been a homer series. Minnesota beat Vancouver 5-2 in Minnesota their last meeting. As a matter of fact Minnesota has Won the last four vs Vancouver at home. Canucks though have beaten Minnesota
In four of the last 5 meetings at Vancouver's GM Place.
Statistically they even out in a lot of categories..You can even give the two a Saw-off in special teams. Minnesota 3rd in Power Play Goals Vancouver has an NHL best 88 percent powerplay.
Okay here are the clinchers. Always play on a hot team til they cool! Canucks have
won 7 straight games and are a force when they are hot. Minnesota meanwhile
is in the midst of a 3 game losing streak, outscored 8-3 in that streak.
Key in on the Wilds awful road record. Minnesota is a league worst 4-15-1 on the
Road and has won only 2 games in their last 16 away from home(both wins shootouts)
Canucks are finding a way to win, and are tough when they are winning.
We like the play on Vancouver over Minnesota..Vancouver Canucks

expert · 11-01-2007, 18:00

if anyione has account at betdirect i recomend immediate action, huge mistake in lines

Florida Panthers @ Carolina Hurricanes: Money Line

Friday 12 January 2007 - 00:07 GMT

Best odds/All odds
Florida Panthers	3.05	1.57	3	2.87	2.75	3.03	2.9	3	2.9	2.8	3	2.75	2.75	3	3.1	3.1	3.05
Carolina Hurricanes	1.4	2.75	1.33	1.4	1.4	1.4	1.4	1.41	1.43	1.4	1.36	1.4	1.4	1.41	1.44	1.45	1.43

expert · 11-01-2007, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulenos

Looks like all's been said. Would back Phx and NYI myself for the above reasons. Not too keen about a handicap play in the Buffalo match, but not saying it's a crazy pick. GL

Seems we got the same card (if youre betting), have added just two more plays to it...good luck and dont get to pissed on your party

Tulenos · 11-01-2007, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by expert

if anyione has account at betdirect i recomend immediate action, huge mistake in lines

Florida Panthers @ Carolina Hurricanes: Money Line

Friday 12 January 2007 - 00:07 GMT

Best odds/All odds
Florida Panthers	3.05	1.57	3	2.87	2.75	3.03	2.9	3	2.9	2.8	3	2.75	2.75	3

10-01-2007, 22:33	#2 (permalink)
Tulenos Bohemian NHL Punter Join Date: 02 May 2001 Location: Prague Age: 37 Posts: 11,712	Re: NHL Thu 11/1 Hmm - can the Coyotes win again? The Red Wings recent record reads LLLW, no need to write about Phoenix who are yet to lose this year. Moreover, it Phx's 3rd game in 6 days, while it's Det's 4th in the same period - which might count at this time of year. Looks tempting. Will decide tomorrow.

10-01-2007, 22:34	#3 (permalink)
expert Legendary Punter Join Date: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,965	Re: NHL Thu 11/1 ohoho, that looks like a fun day! But its friggin thursday...i hate thurdsdays...ok then well play the dogies on eleventh.... OK some eaaaarly looks Coyotes at 2.20...let the streak continue...count me in...Hasek cant save shit on thursdays Sabres on hadicap as Toronto is full of cripled players..and the coach just called his grandparents to come help in defence Senators as a dog possible play Bruins of course for me..in regulation Cans...theyre more sick than Philly but kicked Trashers ass...lean upset of the night - the Kings of LA oooo Calgary...if the injured players return i have no problem with them .... okay dont take this too serious...just thinking out loud, but sure looks good for a "dog thursday" again..

10-01-2007, 22:41	#4 (permalink)
Tulenos Bohemian NHL Punter Join Date: 02 May 2001 Location: Prague Age: 37 Posts: 11,712	Re: NHL Thu 11/1 Can't disagree with your leans - btw, Buffalo available @ 2.04 on the -1.5 cap. The Clg/Col game is a derby too - anything can happen (but as you wrote they need some of the injured players to return). Seriously, though, I'll hopefully have a deeper look tomorrow (if I have time during the day which doesn't look too likely).

10-01-2007, 22:53	#5 (permalink)
expert Legendary Punter Join Date: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,965	Re: NHL Thu 11/1 pleased to be on your side...and looking forward to tommorows day in NHL...today was realy boring, nothing interesting and no looking for value that got my attention. Tomorrow will have card with at least 4 plays, im sure of it. Hopefully youll have some time for discusions mate.

10-01-2007, 23:24	#6 (permalink)
Tulenos Bohemian NHL Punter Join Date: 02 May 2001 Location: Prague Age: 37 Posts: 11,712	Re: NHL Thu 11/1 I can say even now I'm unlikely to be near the computer in the evening as I'm going to a party - might be before and after

11-01-2007, 09:45	#7 (permalink)
expert Legendary Punter Join Date: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,965	Re: NHL Thu 11/1 After a semi deep lookup, have some early leans for tonights games (4 still missing and will be posted later) Florida Panthers @ Carolina Hurricanes (00:05 GMT) Looks like a clear HW for me, might even try the handicap in this one, as the odds are low. Florida played last night and beat Pens comforatbly 5-2, but ternds show they are just 1-7 playing b2b games with no rest and 0-4 when winning the previous night. Carolina won last time out 4-2 and leads the 06/07 series 2-1, with 2 in a row. Edge for Carolina could be low numnber of PP Florida is playing in recent times, Hurricanes averages 4 mins of PP per game more, but are without some inportant defenders and that should show sooner or later…On the other hand, oldie Belfour isnt having the best times lately and good form of Ward could be the big edge for Carolina. Lean to Carolina Washington Capitals @ Tampa Bay Lightning (00:35 GMT) Tight one so im skipping it, but the following read might be helpful… If the Tampa Bay Lightning doesn't start winning soon, the team will likely begin dumping salary, reports the Ottawa Sun. The Bolts have been shopping the likes of forward Vaclav Prospal for most of the season but the paper claims the interest level in him isn't high. According to the Sun, the Lightning would like to upgrade their goaltending and the San Jose Sharks are getting ready to move Vesa Toskala. Citing sources, the Sun claims San Jose GM Doug Wilson wants an offensive blueliner, and if the Bolts want Toskala, they'd have to toss Dan Boyle in a deal. Anaheim Mighty Ducks @ Dallas Stars (01:35 GMT) Passing this game - found no edge...anyway to tight to play on todays big card. Calgary Flames @ Colorado Avalanche (02:05 GMT) Hard match to call IMO. Have a lean on home team, as the Flames could be missing some important fire power upfront..other reason is that they..well pretty much suck when playing away from home, with only 5 wins from 19 matches…Wont be doing intensive looks ups in this one…have a lean on home team but there a far better matches on card today..so im skipping this one Detroit Red Wings @ Phoenix Coyotes (02:05 GMT) The only question mark is..can they contiunue the streak…Wings are in town and they won last match 9-2, last win for Coyotes at home vs. Detroit way back in 2004. IMO this game shouldnt be looked upon from trends point of view…its simply the question of motivation…are they still so motivated to win it again, crowd will surely be crazy tonight…we can not question the motivation of Wings players, they sure want to beat the hottest team in NHL. Dont know anything about this one, on paper Wings are clear favs..but anything could happen tonight in Phoenix. No leans for now Minnesota Wild @ Vancouver Canucks (03:05 GMT) This one really looks like a two bet game. Some of the strongest trends between those two i have ever seen in the NHL. Under is 7-0 in the last 7 meetings in Vancouver. Under is 5-2 in the last 7 meetings. Wild are 1-5-2 in the last 8 meetings in Vancouver. Home team is 4-0 in the last 4 meetings. Favorite is 4-0 in the last 4 meetings. Wild are 4-1 in the last 5 meetings. Parish and Nummelin stil a question mark for the Wild, Cans in almost full strenght. Also Cans with a 3 days rest compared to Wild one day + traveling. Minny are 3-6-0-1 after 1 day rest when loosing last game, Cans 0-1 after W with three day rest. Heavy leans to Cans ML win and under 5. Also Minny really strugling as of late and Cans great with 7 in a row. San Jose Sharks @ Los Angeles Kings (03:35 GMT) Looks like a trick match, but after looking the stats, Sharks are strong favs for this one. Great trend for them when playing with no rest (11-1 in last 12), and have a good trend going on in h2h against the Kings. I especially think they will be fired up for scoring after yesterdays unbelievable bad luck against the Oilers, so counting for a BIG bounce back, might even consider backing them on -1.5…but LA looks really good when playing teams who sit at the top of the table..and they won their last h2h in San Jose…Sharks leading this years series 3-2 and are also 2-1 in LA. Lean to Sharks…as cant see Kings winning two in a row against them…but Garon is on fire lately and has three games in a row with SP over .930

11-01-2007, 13:38	#8 (permalink)
expert Legendary Punter Join Date: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,965	Re: NHL Thu 11/1 Montreal Canadiens @ Philadelphia Flyers (00:05 GMT) I like canadiens in this match, seems i have underestimated their will and improved in health against the Trashers, and they won last period of that match with 2-0, so no problem with stamina. For the Flyers Forsberg should be in line up, but IMO that doesnt represent only a small change in improvement of their games. Have looked their previous results, and they used their trip a xmas break to get some wins against home teams who were suffering from holiday sindrome. Im still thinking about this match, but the lean is on the Montreals side. From Associated Press Sports: Forsberg has missed four games with a groin injury, but practiced Wednesday and said that he is ready to go."Everything's fine," he said. "And hopefully I'll be in the lineup for a while." Forsberg has struggled all season to perfect a skate for his balky right ankle, which was surgically repaired last May. He said that his troubles with his skate caused the groin injury. "Is it a hundred percent? No, it's not a hundred percent," he said. "But I have to play. My hope is that it will get to one hundred percent." New York Islanders @ Boston Bruins (00:05 GMT) Typical trend play and im taking it. Islanders defeated Rangers to end their cold streak, and that was simply a chart play, im going again on them tonight as they own the series against lately very bad Bruins. Not much more to add. Ottawa Senators @ New York Rangers (00:05 GMT) Tight match IMO and the goalies will be crucial in this one. Ludqvist was excelent both times those two met this year, with .964 and .971 SP, but was terrible in last match against Islanders with .800 SP. Emery on the other side seems more consistant and also both time very good ag. Rangers with one shotout. To tight match for eveno thinking about betting on. Lean to Ottawa because of better form. Toronto Maple Leafs @ Buffalo Sabres (00:05 GMT) PLAY OF THE DAY…No leans, this is the bet. Buffalo on handicap against injury plagued Leafs. I see nothing positive about Torontos visit to Buffalo. Sabres played match last night, but really they shouldnt struglle against a team who is having problems filling their ranks and organising their lines. But will wait until more is known about the status of some Leafs players.

11-01-2007, 14:38	#10 (permalink)
Tulenos Bohemian NHL Punter Join Date: 02 May 2001 Location: Prague Age: 37 Posts: 11,712	Re: NHL Thu 11/1 Looks like all's been said. Would back Phx and NYI myself for the above reasons. Not too keen about a handicap play in the Buffalo match, but not saying it's a crazy pick. GL

11-01-2007, 14:38	#11 (permalink)
Bill Junior Punter Join Date: 04 Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 74	Re: NHL Thu 11/1 Tonight..We like a play on the Minnesota Vancouver NHL game tonight in Vancouver. First matchup wise..this has for the most part been a homer series. Minnesota beat Vancouver 5-2 in Minnesota their last meeting. As a matter of fact Minnesota has Won the last four vs Vancouver at home. Canucks though have beaten Minnesota In four of the last 5 meetings at Vancouver's GM Place. Statistically they even out in a lot of categories..You can even give the two a Saw-off in special teams. Minnesota 3rd in Power Play Goals Vancouver has an NHL best 88 percent powerplay. Okay here are the clinchers. Always play on a hot team til they cool! Canucks have won 7 straight games and are a force when they are hot. Minnesota meanwhile is in the midst of a 3 game losing streak, outscored 8-3 in that streak. Key in on the Wilds awful road record. Minnesota is a league worst 4-15-1 on the Road and has won only 2 games in their last 16 away from home(both wins shootouts) Canucks are finding a way to win, and are tough when they are winning. We like the play on Vancouver over Minnesota..Vancouver Canucks