What is the point! The nemo's always get the luck

[MartyMcG_1967]

Played a satellite this afternoon on William Hill, $3 buy-in to gain a seat to the $10kGTD at 4 oclock. 60 odd people started with the top 6 gaining access to the $27 dollar buy-in tourney. Play pretty well and my good hands hold up at the right time and manage to qualify for the tourney.

2500 chips, 15 min blind levels so plenty of time to wait for good hands. About 20 minutes in, after not really being in any notable hands i get a decent hand. Blinds are 15/30- i see KK, raise to 120 get two callers.

Flop comes 9c Jc 7d

The pots around 400, I'm first to act so i bet about half of that. Player 1 re-raises me just over double to around 450. A bit worried about trip 7's or 9's but pretty confident im ahead. Player 2 then goes all in for around 2650, we all have pretty much the same amount at this early stage. From what ive seen of player 2's play he isn't a good player and while I'm worried about trips he could make his move with a few hands that i have beat. With KK on this board I have to call and do. Player 1 also calls the all in. Cards are turned over

Player 1- QQ - one of the hands i would have put him on and delighted im ahead.
Player 2- J 10 o/s !! Couldn't believe it. How can he think that hand is good.

Inevitably the turn is a 2 and just as im about to celebrate trebling up in a big tourney, the 10 comes on the river giving him 2 pair

I mean the Q would have been sickening but I could have handled that, you can see why he thought QQ was good on that board, but J 10 is beaten by so many hands especially when there was a raise pre-flop. AJ,KJ,QJ all legitimate hands we could have had or 77,99, QQ KK or AA.

I know bad beats are a part of poker but that is just sickening, time and time again nemo moves get rewarded. The guy is sitting at just under 9,000 chips with a chance to do some damage from there and make the money while after slogging it out for over an hour in a satellite i get done on the river and get 0.

Think I'll pack it in for a bit its just too frustrating and time consuming when a crap player can outdraw you at any time

[GotaFancy?]

You know you were only about 54% when you called the all in? You'll win about half and lose about half....


Board: 9c Jc 7d
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 13.843% 13.84% 00.00% 125 0.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 54.928% 54.93% 00.00% 496 0.00 { KhKs }
Hand 2: 31.229% 31.23% 00.00% 282 0.00 { JsTd }

In the short run (e.g. 1 game) there is relatively little skill in poker. The skill in poker comes from consistently achieving small edges which over time will mean a profit. The more time you measure results over, the more skillful you need to be to win....

[slapdash]

Unlucky.

However, while I'm not saying he played it well, it's very far from the worst I've seen.

If you and the QQ had got all in on the flop and I'd known what you both had, then I'd have called with his hand. (I know that's not what happened, but I'm just making the point that he had pretty good odds.)

[MartyMcG_1967]

[quote=slapdash;1120152]Unlucky.

However, while I'm not saying he played it well, it's very far from the worst I've seen.

If you and the QQ had got all in on the flop and I'd known what you both had, then I'd have called with his hand. (I know that's not what happened, but I'm just making the point that he had pretty good odds.)[/quote]

He wasn't exactly sitting there calculating his odds though, he was an idiot who saw he had top pair and got a hard on and pressed all in.

[uhudazflo]

i would of been pretty wary of him holding 8 10s or o/s as it was early and not much to call preflop.

i find a lot of players will play a lot of different hands early on.

if you continue to get your chips in good,in the long run you will be successful as gaf has said

you've been a bit unlucky there but i'm sure you'll be ok after a few hours break

gl in your next game

[Nade]

Originally Posted by MartyMcG_1967

He wasn't exactly sitting there calculating his odds though, he was an idiot who saw he had top pair and got a hard on and pressed all in.

Lol i love it. This should be quoted all around the globe. PL Poker catchphrase or something .

[Mr Intensity]

To be fair to the guy with JT, he did have a decent hand and a draw, he was the one who made the big raise AND he's very unlucky to come up against QQ and KK on a very good flop for him

[WASP]

aye whats the point

[SteveO]

You have a lot to learn my son. You are not ready just ask the WASP.

[glceud]

Originally Posted by MartyMcG_1967

Player 2- J 10 o/s !! Couldn't believe it. How can he think that hand is good.

He didnt think it was good but he thought both you and the other guy were weak and he used his "gut feeling" to make a massive squeeze play.
Pokers all about gut feelings you know

[MartyMcG_1967]

Originally Posted by SteveO

You have a lot to learn my son. You are not ready just ask the WASP.

Uch I know these things happen but I was pi**ed off and wanted to air my discontent! Confident i'll get back to winning ways tomorrow on stt's

@glceud I raised pre-flop, i then bet into the pot, then the other guy re-raised me so I dunno where he sensed weakness from!

[glceud]

Originally Posted by MartyMcG_1967

@glceud I raised pre-flop, i then bet into the pot, then the other guy re-raised me so I dunno where he sensed weakness from!

Naw you made a weak contination bet with your A/K and the second guy minimum reraised you with his flush draw hoping to get a free card on the river. Prime time for a squeeze play with top pair and a gut shot straight.

[Nade]

Ok you got unlucky but these things are 10 a penny in poker. It took me a while but i finally realised that you either suck up and take the shit or quit cus there just ain't no way of avoiding getting kicked in the balls regularly playing poker, it is actually an insane game although mostly skill based.

If you want proper criticism post a winning hand

[MartyMcG_1967]

Originally Posted by glceud

Naw you made a weak contination bet with your A/K and the second guy minimum reraised you with his flush draw hoping to get a free card on the river. Prime time for a squeeze play with top pair and a gut shot straight.

Maybe your right but the impression I got was he wasn't even thinking about what me and the other guy had and just liked the fact he had top pair. Also his comments after the hand would suggest that.

C'est la vie

[MartyMcG_1967]

Originally Posted by Nade

Ok you got unlucky but these things are 10 a penny in poker. It took me a while but i finally realised that you either suck up and take the shit or quit cus there just ain't no way of avoiding getting kicked in the balls regularly playing poker, it is actually an insane game although mostly skill based.

If you want proper criticism post a winning hand

What do you guys regularly play? Wouldn't mind playing a PL focus game or something for a bit of fun.

Yeah your right, think i was extra peed off cos I'd played a satellite to get into the thing but you need to have the temperament to take getting outdrawn on the turn/river.

[Nade]

What's a nemo anyway ...

[Valiant23]

If you want proper criticism post a winning hand

Nemo? As in "Finding Nemo" the Disney cartoon about a fish.

[jq205]

I gonna throw it out there and guess 'fish'?

[Nade]

Ah i see finding Nemo

Thanks . .

[MartyMcG_1967]

Originally Posted by Nade

What's a nemo anyway ...

Its a fish, as opposed to a shark!(good player)