The Mole

[Nade]

What would have made it more interesting is if you chopped off the end and didn't reveal what hand he had instead giving us an attempt to give our reasons for each possibility. It's hard to judge any HH objectively when you know the outcome tbh.

Anyway great play. The only thing is when i'm pretty certain of being ahead i raise putting the opponent to the test. In this case though the opponent has got themselves pretty pot committed which might have gone through your head when thinking about re-raising on the flop ?.

If you think of it from their PoV i can see what they were trying to do - overbet the flop - to get themselves committed to the hand - but also make it obvious to the opponent (you) that they're committed and so if the opponent isn't confident enough of their hand holding up till the river then they will usually fold. It's a pretty LAG play though and not something i'd do really.

[the mole]

Ok i'm a fish, Thought he had Ak and i could push him off, but when he called my all in i thought sh*t. I played very reckless today but that can be good for the image.

***** Hand 1052868732 *****
10.00/20.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 24 April 2008 12:07:26
Table TH 23 (Real /Cash Game )
Seat 1: MINOS100 (5369.50)
Seat 2: _illusion_ (3316.00)
Seat 4: the_mole (2480.00)
Seat 5: Ranked (7554.04)
Seat 3: G_O_D (0.00)
the_mole post SB 10.00
MINOS100 post BB 20.00
** Deal **
MINOS100 [N/A, N/A]
_illusion_ [N/A, N/A]
the_mole [Jd, 4d]
*** Bet Round 1 ***
_illusion_ Fold
the_mole Raise to 80.00
MINOS100 Raise to 240.00
the_mole Raise to 540.00
MINOS100 Call 540.00
*** Flop(Board): *** : [3s, 9d, 2s]
*** Bet Round 2 ***
the_mole Bet 860.00
MINOS100 Call 860.00
*** Turn(Board): *** : [3s, 9d, 2s, Qc]
*** Bet Round 3 ***
the_mole All-in 1080.00
MINOS100 Call 1080.00
*** River(Board): *** : [3s, 9d, 2s, Qc, Jh]
*** Showdown *** : Rake: 3.00 Total Pot: 4957.00
MINOS100 Fold Win: 0.00
_illusion_ Fold Win: 0.00
the_mole [Jd, 4d] Pair of jacks Win: 4957.00

[Mr Intensity]

Can I ask why did you re-re-raise pre flop? Did you think he would fold? Being first to act on the flop if I wanted to make a move I'd just call pre flop then bet the flop whatever come.

Did you find out what he had or get any abuse? I know I'd be going mental if I'd lost that

[ubermonkey1]

[quote=the mole;1067038]Ok i'm a fish, Thought he had Ak and i could push him off, but when he called my all in i thought sh*t. I played very reckless today but that can be good for the image.


after reading your comment about image steph ,just wondering if you specifically show down a few cheap fishy hands to look a bit of a donk ,so you can pick up some bigger pots later?
admittedly 2.5k is a bit bigger than i'd like to give awaybut i spose its ok if it gets you a 5k pot later

[the mole]

Originally Posted by Mr Intensity

Can I ask why did you re-re-raise pre flop? Did you think he would fold? Being first to act on the flop if I wanted to make a move I'd just call pre flop then bet the flop whatever come.

Did you find out what he had or get any abuse? I know I'd be going mental if I'd lost that

I re re re raised the pot to look super strong and ofc hope to take the pot, a lot of people use the re raise to show strength( not always the case) so ive now narrowed him down to 3 or 4 hands AA,KK,QQ or AK when he called the flop bet i had it in my head he has AK and provided no A or K came im all in thinking he folds. As i said this was not the greatest of plays by me but sometimes its good to " go on one"

I didnt find out what he had and no i didnt get any abuse.

This hand can show why player notes can be usless sometimes, a guy yesterday who i stacked with kk v qq pf said " i should have looked my notes as i have you down as tight" hehe this made me laugh. Yes i can be tight but i can also be very loose so his notes are useless.

I dont and never have played "book poker" if everyone did that they would all play much the same, i find it easy to spot players who play from a book and know what i can and cant get away with. I am instinctive and play with gut feeling and how i read the hand, but obviously i take lots of things into account, odds, %s, position, who im playing and their state of mind etc

[the mole]

[quote=ubermonkey1;1067204]

Originally Posted by the mole

Ok i'm a fish, Thought he had Ak and i could push him off, but when he called my all in i thought sh*t. I played very reckless today but that can be good for the image.


after reading your comment about image steph ,just wondering if you specifically show down a few cheap fishy hands to look a bit of a donk ,so you can pick up some bigger pots later?
admittedly 2.5k is a bit bigger than i'd like to give awaybut i spose its ok if it gets you a 5k pot later

I never specifically set out to lose a hand, but if i do and it looks fishy then i take the positive out of it and use it to my advantage.

The hand above is a good one to see how power play works ( although it did go wrong) because what kind of hand do you need to call the 3 big bets

[Mr Intensity]

Thanks for the explanation

After the hand what do think he had? AK flush draw? A9?

[the mole]

Originally Posted by Mr Intensity

Thanks for the explanation

After the hand what do think he had? AK flush draw? A9?

AK was my thoughts all the way through the hand but i now like to think he had TT, thats the sick sense of humour that would appeal to me. Even though people see me as a good player i am still capable of playing like a baboon and that believe it or believe it not is a good thing

[ubermonkey1]

[quote=the mole;1067229]

Originally Posted by ubermonkey1

I never specifically set out to lose a hand, but if i do and it looks fishy then i take the positive out of it and use it to my advantage.

The hand above is a good one to see how power play works ( although it did go wrong) because what kind of hand do you need to call the 3 big bets

nah i know what u mean at least you can play your aces the same way when you get em .and like you say he's gotta have a real decent hand to call

[WASP]

Originally Posted by the mole

I dont and never have played "book poker" if everyone did that they would all play much the same, i find it easy to spot players who play from a book and know what i can and cant get away with. I am instinctive and play with gut feeling and how i read the hand, but obviously i take lots of things into account, odds, %s, position, who im playing and their state of mind etc

Nails and heads spring to mind

I know we have discussed this at great detail but I think it is key for all of us aspiring to your heights that you need to throw that theory out of the window sometimes and go with your instincts. And then on the flip side totally exploit the 'Harrington' player.

[the mole]

***** Hand 1064900756 *****
25.00/50.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 03 May 2008 04:10:39
Table TH 962 (Real /Cash Game )
Seat 1: TuttiFruit (3772.25)
Seat 2: alexandern (686.00)
Seat 3: the_mole (18218.07)
Seat 4: Bonaqua (5208.00)
Seat 5: Celakovika (8528.25)
Bonaqua post SB 25.00
Celakovika post BB 50.00
** Deal **
TuttiFruit [N/A, N/A]
alexandern [N/A, N/A]
the_mole [Qs, Qd]
Bonaqua [N/A, N/A]
Celakovika [N/A, N/A]
*** Bet Round 1 ***
TuttiFruit Raise to 175.00
alexandern Fold
the_mole All-in 18218.07
Bonaqua Fold
Celakovika Fold
TuttiFruit All-in 3772.25
*** Flop(Board): *** : [5c, 6s, 10h]
*** Turn(Board): *** : [5c, 6s, 10h, 4c]
*** River(Board): *** : [5c, 6s, 10h, 4c, Kh]
*** Showdown *** : Rake: 3.00 Total Pot: 7616.50
TuttiFruit [5d, 6d] Two pair sixes and fives Win: 7616.50
alexandern Fold Win: 0.00
the_mole [Qs, Qd] Pair of queens Win: 0.00
Bonaqua Fold Win: 0.00
Celakovika Fold Win: 0.00

[the mole]

***** Hand 1064875500 *****
25.00/50.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 03 May 2008 03:12:15
Table TH 962 (Real /Cash Game )
Seat 1: TuttiFruit (11518.18)
Seat 2: Cmenomore (12054.26)
Seat 3: the_mole (3117.82)
Seat 4: maja2202 (2725.75)
Seat 5: Celakovika (5297.00)
Celakovika post SB 25.00
TuttiFruit post BB 50.00
** Deal **
TuttiFruit [N/A, N/A]
Cmenomore [N/A, N/A]
the_mole [Ks, Qs]
maja2202 [N/A, N/A]
Celakovika [N/A, N/A]
*** Bet Round 1 ***
Cmenomore Raise to 150.00
the_mole Call 150.00
maja2202 Fold
Celakovika Raise to 688.00
TuttiFruit Fold
Cmenomore Fold
the_mole Call 688.00
*** Flop(Board): *** : [2s, 6c, 10s]
*** Bet Round 2 ***
Celakovika Bet 900.00
the_mole Call 900.00
*** Turn(Board): *** : [2s, 6c, 10s, Jh]
*** Bet Round 3 ***
Celakovika All-in 3709.00
the_mole All-in 1529.82
*** River(Board): *** : [2s, 6c, 10s, Jh, Js]
*** Showdown *** : Rake: 3.00 Total Pot: 6432.64
TuttiFruit Fold Win: 0.00
Cmenomore Fold Win: 0.00
the_mole [Ks, Qs] Flush to the king Win: 6432.64
maja2202 Fold Win: 0.00
Celakovika [Kh, Kd] Two pair kings and jacks Win: 0.00

[the mole]

***** Hand 1064828215 *****
25.00/50.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 03 May 2008 01:56:37
Table TH 962 (Real /Cash Game )
Seat 1: FULLYBCN (3021.90)
Seat 2: MAKEME$ICK (8585.62)
Seat 3: the_mole (8664.30)
Seat 4: bob06314 (13773.15)
Seat 5: luggy4 (856.25)
luggy4 post SB 25.00
FULLYBCN post BB 50.00
** Deal **
FULLYBCN [N/A, N/A]
MAKEME$ICK [N/A, N/A]
the_mole [Kc, 10h]
bob06314 [N/A, N/A]
luggy4 [N/A, N/A]
*** Bet Round 1 ***
MAKEME$ICK Fold
the_mole Raise to 150.00
bob06314 Call 150.00
luggy4 Fold
FULLYBCN Call 150.00
*** Flop(Board): *** : [9c, 6s, Kh]
*** Bet Round 2 ***
FULLYBCN Check
the_mole Check
bob06314 Bet 425.00
FULLYBCN Call 425.00
the_mole Call 425.00
*** Turn(Board): *** : [9c, 6s, Kh, 10c]
*** Bet Round 3 ***
FULLYBCN Check
the_mole Check
bob06314 Check
*** River(Board): *** : [9c, 6s, Kh, 10c, 4c]
*** Bet Round 4 ***
FULLYBCN All-in 2446.90
the_mole Call 2446.90
bob06314 Fold
*** Showdown *** : Rake: 3.00 Total Pot: 6640.80
FULLYBCN [5d, Kd] Pair of kings Win: 0.00
MAKEME$ICK Fold Win: 0.00
the_mole [Kc, 10h] Two pair kings and tens Win: 6640.80
bob06314 Fold Win: 0.00
luggy4 Fold Win: 0.00

[the mole]

***** Hand 1064866581 *****
25.00/50.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 03 May 2008 02:54:34
Table TH 962 (Real /Cash Game )
Seat 1: TuttiFruit (10086.68)
Seat 2: Cmenomore (5500.38)
Seat 3: the_mole (10236.95)
Seat 4: maja2202 (1372.00)
Seat 5: Celakovika (4925.00)
the_mole post SB 25.00
maja2202 post BB 50.00
** Deal **
TuttiFruit [N/A, N/A]
Cmenomore [N/A, N/A]
the_mole [Qs, Qh]
maja2202 [N/A, N/A]
Celakovika [N/A, N/A]
*** Bet Round 1 ***
Celakovika Fold
TuttiFruit Raise to 175.00
Cmenomore Raise to 600.00
the_mole Raise to 1425.00
maja2202 Fold
TuttiFruit Fold
Cmenomore Call 1425.00
*** Flop(Board): *** : [10d, 4c, 8c]
*** Bet Round 2 ***
the_mole Bet 2900.00
Cmenomore All-in 4075.38
the_mole Call 4075.38
*** Turn(Board): *** : [10d, 4c, 8c, 3h]
*** River(Board): *** : [10d, 4c, 8c, 3h, 2h]
*** Showdown *** : Rake: 3.00 Total Pot: 11222.76
TuttiFruit Fold Win: 0.00
Cmenomore [Ac, As] Pair of aces Win: 11222.76
the_mole [Qs, Qh] Pair of queens Win: 0.00
maja2202 Fold Win: 0.00
Celakovika Fold Win: 0.00

[the mole]

***** Hand 1064880948 *****
25.00/50.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 03 May 2008 03:24:21
Table TH 962 (Real /Cash Game )
Seat 1: TuttiFruit (11662.18)
Seat 2: 100%Dundee (4925.00)
Seat 3: the_mole (4051.64)
Seat 4: maja2202 (1897.75)
Seat 5: Celakovika (7994.00)
Celakovika post SB 25.00
TuttiFruit post BB 50.00
** Deal **
TuttiFruit [N/A, N/A]
100%Dundee [N/A, N/A]
the_mole [9h, Ac]
maja2202 [N/A, N/A]
Celakovika [N/A, N/A]
*** Bet Round 1 ***
100%Dundee Fold
the_mole Raise to 175.00
maja2202 Fold
Celakovika Fold
TuttiFruit Raise to 550.00
the_mole Raise to 1475.00
TuttiFruit Call 1475.00
*** Flop(Board): *** : [8d, 9s, 5h]
*** Bet Round 2 ***
TuttiFruit Bet 2975.00
the_mole All-in 2576.64
*** Turn(Board): *** : [8d, 9s, 5h, 3c]
*** River(Board): *** : [8d, 9s, 5h, 3c, 10h]
*** Showdown *** : Rake: 3.00 Total Pot: 8125.28
TuttiFruit [Ad, Jh] Highest card ace Win: 0.00
100%Dundee Fold Win: 0.00
the_mole [9h, Ac] Pair of nines Win: 8125.28
maja2202 Fold Win: 0.00
Celakovika Fold Win: 0.00

[the mole]

some hands from tonight i know there were bigger wins and losses but i am a bit tired so fill your boots

[GotaFancy?]

A general question for you - you've posted above very late on a friday night (and thinking back to the GUKPT videos ) - do you ever play online when you've had a few too many to drink? Have you ever blown your bankroll after too much drink, or are you disciplined enough to know when you just cant play?

[voiceofjoe]

Before I show my naievety at these levels, do you think you played all the hands well ?

The views of a low stakes cash player.......

My first impressions with hand 1 was what a terrible overbet by yourself , (BTW I'm not condoning his call off it either ) - why such a large bet with QQ ? - Surely that type of bet can only be a loser in the long term - i.e normally your only going to get called by AA,KK or maybe AK. Or did his stack size sway the decision ?

Second Hand - nice play throughout, he'd obviously realised you were drawing to either flush/strait but probably not both - and his bet wasn't going to lose you at that stage.

Third hand - poor play by FULLYBCN

Fourth and Fifth Hands - Very similar betting patterns with differing outcomes. I would have questioned why you would continue betting in face of strength and questioned what hands you thought you could be beating in both - but thats obviously shows how big the gap is between my levels and these

[goater14]

On the first hand were you surprised when he showed 5-6? Or did you think that your overbet preflop was a sign of weakness and with the stack sizes he was prepared to gamble? Would you of ever made that move yourselve with respect to stack sizes? Or do you think it was a drunken misclick

[the mole]

Originally Posted by GotaFancy?

A general question for you - you've posted above very late on a friday night (and thinking back to the GUKPT videos ) - do you ever play online when you've had a few too many to drink? Have you ever blown your bankroll after too much drink, or are you disciplined enough to know when you just cant play?

Yes i have played on occasion with a drink ( aint we all), not often though I have never blew my bankroll sober or drunk. When i play the GUKPT its fun and a rest from the real pressure of poker so i treat it like a break.