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Old 03-02-2008, 15:20   #21 (permalink)
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DO you use PokerTracker on Prima? (You should - it's one network where you really should)

You can have something like 8 or 12 tables open at a time, and Pokertracker will collect data as an observor - leave it running for a few days and you'll start to build up a database - then you'll start to be able to see the fish in PokerAce/Gametime + without restricting yourse;ves to the fish you've seen......

I'm building a database in Ladbrokes at the moment (with half an eye on a future cash challenge) and can see players like these in the database (at 25c/50c NL)

Player 1
Played 8,891 Hands
BB/100 (16.70)
Total Profit/Loss ($742.20)

Player 2
Played 1,159 Hands
BB/100 (116.22)
Total Profit/Loss ($673.51)
W$/SD 30.30%

Player 3
Played 1,455
BB/100 (81.26)
Total Profit/Loss ($591.19)
VP$IP 64.54%

And there are loads of players like these......
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:46   #22 (permalink)
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Well a bit of a nightmate yesterday. The first hour I was a couple of dollars up. Made 1 mistake which cost me $19, but apart from that was happy with my play.

I then chased a flush draw which missed, plus a couple of straight draws which again missed. Then another mistake which cost about $20. After analysing my hands, both mistakes stem from calling raises with suited cards (A2 & K7). In the cold light of day I know that I am only playing these cards looking for a flush, but I keep getting into trouble when I make a pair. Incidentally the A2 was beaten by AQ on an AQx board, and the K7 was beaten by AK on a K55 board - although I did get away from the second one eventually.

I then made the cardinal sin of tilting largely and ended up walking into Aces. So instead of losing around $65 dollars I lost $112 and am back to square one for the year. I guess if I ignore the tilt and look at it as a session of missed draws - on another day maybe they hit and I win $65 - then it's possibly just variance. However I am beginning to wonder whether I'm just not good enough to play cash games. I certainly need to remove the mistakes - I'm aware I'm making them I just need to get away from them in the heat of the battle.

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Old 04-02-2008, 12:48   #23 (permalink)
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well done mate
only 2 losing days is an excellent run,good luck for feb
Cheers mate. Unfortunately the losing days are wiping out weeks of winning days.
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:49   #24 (permalink)
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I must admit I still haven't got round to buying my PT licence, so no I don't have GT running. And after yesterday's performance I really don't feel inclined to part with $55 at the moment either.

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DO you use PokerTracker on Prima? (You should - it's one network where you really should)

You can have something like 8 or 12 tables open at a time, and Pokertracker will collect data as an observor - leave it running for a few days and you'll start to build up a database - then you'll start to be able to see the fish in PokerAce/Gametime + without restricting yourse;ves to the fish you've seen......

I'm building a database in Ladbrokes at the moment (with half an eye on a future cash challenge) and can see players like these in the database (at 25c/50c NL)

Player 1
Played 8,891 Hands
BB/100 (16.70)
Total Profit/Loss ($742.20)

Player 2
Played 1,159 Hands
BB/100 (116.22)
Total Profit/Loss ($673.51)
W$/SD 30.30%

Player 3
Played 1,455
BB/100 (81.26)
Total Profit/Loss ($591.19)
VP$IP 64.54%

And there are loads of players like these......
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Old 04-02-2008, 17:33   #25 (permalink)
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Probably worth waiting for v 3 now, and not worth buying v 2.....

Or maybe downloading the Beta - don't know if you get full access during Beta (Teaulc has done it - he should be able to advise )
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Old 04-02-2008, 18:28   #26 (permalink)
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I must admit I still haven't got round to buying my PT licence, so no I don't have GT running. And after yesterday's performance I really don't feel inclined to part with $55 at the moment either.
You could always sign up to a rewards site which offers PT as part of the signup... thats what I did when I was in to cash games.

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Old 04-02-2008, 22:48   #27 (permalink)
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Another bad day.

** Game ID 1852687283 starting - 2008-02-04 21:20:58
** Erlangen [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money
- steef_79 sitting in seat 1 with $47.77
- yantheman10k sitting in seat 2 with $50.36 [Dealer]
- Im_Back sitting in seat 3 with $49.25
- Sleekshot sitting in seat 4 with $53.66
- venegar sitting in seat 5 with $21.64
- Fireblade187 sitting in seat 6 with $86.58
Im_Back posted the small blind - $0.25
Sleekshot posted the big blind - $0.50
** Dealing card to Sleekshot: King of Clubs, 7 of Clubs
venegar raised - $2.00
Fireblade187 folded
steef_79 folded
yantheman10k called - $2.00
Im_Back folded
Sleekshot called - $2.00
** Dealing the flop: King of Spades, 6 of Clubs, 10 of Clubs
Sleekshot checked
venegar bet - $3.50
yantheman10k raised - $7.00
Sleekshot raised - $27.25
venegar went all-in - $16.14
yantheman10k called - $27.25
** Dealing the turn: Jack of Spades
Sleekshot went all-in - $24.91
yantheman10k went all-in - $21.11
** Dealing the river: 5 of Spades
Sleekshot shows: King of Clubs, 7 of Clubs
yantheman10k shows: Ace of Clubs, King of Hearts
venegar shows: 10 of Spades, 10 of Diamonds
yantheman10k wins $57.44 from side pot 1
venegar wins $62.17 from the main pot
End of game 1852687283

You could argue that I shouldn't have called, esp after what I wrote about suited cards, however this is the flop I am playing them for. I can live with that, although it would be nice to hit a draw once in a while.

The rest of the session I'm playing ok but I get no action with my PP's, my flushes are not paid when they do hit and when I get a small blind special to get 2 pair versus AJ on a Ace high board, the board pairs and I lose again.

Am thoroughly fcuked off with this game at the moment.

Maybe I am just shit at it.
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Old 09-02-2008, 14:20   #28 (permalink)
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Had a few days off. Played (and won ) a PL Omaha tourney last night to cheer me up. And decided to have a little go again just now.

For once the majority of things went my way and I finished $65 up in 35 mins.

Hopefully this is the start of the (long) road to recovery.

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Old 10-02-2008, 19:14   #29 (permalink)
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Another half hour of profit. Slowly and steady.

Feb 10th +$12

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Old 12-02-2008, 21:14   #30 (permalink)
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Decided whilst I was gonna play the Hawaii 501 bounty game on SJ I might as well play the Grand Prix too so played half hour earlier to get my 10 RH. And got $35 profit too.

Feb 12th +$35

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Old 14-02-2008, 17:54   #31 (permalink)
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Another half hour earlier for $32 profit.

Maybe I have found a leak in my game - that is playing for too long at a time. If I look back at all 8 of my losing days they have all been in sessions of over an hour long. Of course there is always the possibility that I have played longer in the hope of regaining my losses (ie chasing losses) so in turn maybe that leads me into another weakness and I should follow croc's example that if I lose a buy-in I should stop. Or maybe combine the two so the 'rules' would be:

Don't play for more than an hour (regardless of winning or losing).
If lose a buy-in - STOP.

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55 minutes played for $23 profit. Happy with that - another solid session with what seemed no mistakes.

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56 minutes played yesterday for a $15 loss. I made 2 poor mistakes which put me over $50 down and I broke my own rule of not stopping there and then.

However, it turned out to be for the best as a flopped flush got $47 in one hit. I then got level and was going to leave when I got dealt QQ in the SB v the BB. An ace on the flop put paid to that though and I finished $15 down. It was then it was approaching the hour so I thought I better not break the other rule I set and just accept the small loss.

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** Game ID 1880330390 starting - 2008-02-20 20:31:43
** Debrecen [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money
- DELAVEINE sitting in seat 1 with $40.07 [Dealer]
- thomasz sitting in seat 2 with $14.89
- Sleekshot sitting in seat 3 with $49.50
- asswiggle sitting in seat 4 with $62.75
- redbull247 sitting in seat 5 with $36.25
- pablo_eskoba sitting in seat 6 with $43.06
thomasz posted the small blind - $0.25
Sleekshot posted the big blind - $0.50
** Dealing card to Sleekshot: Ace of Diamonds, 9 of Diamonds
asswiggle called - $0.50
redbull247 called - $0.50
pablo_eskoba folded
DELAVEINE folded
thomasz folded
Sleekshot checked
** Dealing the flop: 4 of Spades, King of Diamonds, 10 of Diamonds
Sleekshot checked
asswiggle bet - $0.50
redbull247 raised - $2.00
Sleekshot called - $2.00
asswiggle raised - $3.50
redbull247 went all-in - $33.75
Sleekshot went all-in - $47.50
asswiggle folded
** Dealing the turn: 4 of Clubs
** Dealing the river: 8 of Clubs
redbull247 shows: Ace of Spades, Ace of Clubs
Sleekshot mucks: Ace of Diamonds, 9 of Diamonds
redbull247 wins $73.75 from the main pot
End of game 1880330390

Doh!

I think it was the correct play, probably just a shame 'asswiggle' re-raised else I prob could have got away cheaper. Never mind.

Still 39 minutes later and I leave with all that back and a profit of $14 too.

Feb 20th +$14

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Old 21-02-2008, 21:39   #35 (permalink)
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To be honest I wouldnt be makin this call here. In a limped pot there is a fair chance he has a set or something there, and even if he has KQ or a similar hand you are still about 45% and only just getting odds. Unless he is a total maniac I'm folding here, the only hand you beat that should push is QdJd.

Also what do you make of pablo_eskoba on that table? I seem to see him on a lot of tables but have no proper notes on him yet.
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Thanks for your feedback mate.

I've always considered a nut flush draw on the flop to be about 50% (I don't know the exact figures) and have been happy to get the money in. I remember when I played in the PokerDome Perry Friedman knocked someone out doing the same thing and he didn't hesitate getting the chips in. However, I take on board what you said and I will do some more research into whether or not it is a good play in the future.

Regarding pablo_eskoba I think it's the first time I have had him at my table so can't really comment. From what I remember I thought he was fairly steady and didn't play many pots. One guy to look out for though was CaptainPedro who joined later. I liked him and got all my cash back through him!
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That hand would have been an easy fold for me Hodgey. Maybe im too tight a player but would have only called an all in with straight and flush draw.
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I did have an outside chance of a Royal Flush too!

No, in all seriousness I appreciate your views and it looks like maybe I am in the minority and have been playing flush draws wrong. If so - then I am happy to learn from it.

Anyone else got any views on it?
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I did have an outside chance of a Royal Flush too!

No, in all seriousness I appreciate your views and it looks like maybe I am in the minority and have been playing flush draws wrong. If so - then I am happy to learn from it.

Anyone else got any views on it?
call from me too
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Well drawing to your flush you know you're probably at least 2/1 underdog and you're not getting those odds so it's an easy fold. Had they both gone all in I'd call every time.
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