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Old 14-09-2008, 17:45   #1 (permalink)
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An absolutely amazing bit of kit, how did I ever manage without it !!!

Absolutely essential for anyone playing cash to improve your table selection and find them fish
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Whatcha talkin about Willis!!
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Old 15-09-2008, 16:27   #3 (permalink)
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It wont affect you as your table selection is quite a simple affair
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Old 15-09-2008, 18:44   #4 (permalink)
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SpadeEye is quite a mature piece of software I think. As I'm understanding it, EyePoker is "just" SpadeEye for iPoker network.

Been having a fiddle with SpadeEye - managed to tie it in to my PT3 db and to get it reading the FullTilt tables - cant quite work out for the moment what all the data means or the best criteria to use, however one six max table with 6 losing players on it looked tempting

The whole family of software comes with a free fully functional 8 day trial (and $45 to purchase afterwards) - it certainly looks a lot more appealing than the PT3 Table Tracker proposal ($xx per month)
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Old 15-09-2008, 19:30   #5 (permalink)
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SpadeEye is quite a mature piece of software I think. As I'm understanding it, EyePoker is "just" SpadeEye for iPoker network.
Yes I only play cash on ipoker these days so haven't looked at the others yet.

It is great for fast mining, selecting the easiest tables and finding players/buddies/deadmoney
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Old 17-09-2008, 01:01   #6 (permalink)
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Thought a screenshot may be interesting for those not to have got their heads around it yet Cheers Bri, I'm glad you reignighted my interest in this

This shows losing (with the data I have) Heads Up players currently seated at the 25c/50c tables.....

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Old 17-09-2008, 20:08   #7 (permalink)
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Heads up eh

What filter setting do you use GaF? I've been scanning for players with a VPIP of over 40% with a stack of over 50BB (who are losers) on 6 max normal tables. On .25/.50 and .50/1 you can usually find a few tables with two sitting down but on 1/2 and above they obviously become fewer but I can still find them amazingly
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Old 17-09-2008, 20:31   #8 (permalink)
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I'm only filtering at the moment by HU tables, 25/50 and "losing players" - then sorting by the amount they've lost (better would be BB/100 and more than x Hands)
Noticed one problem - sat down with a hugely losing player earlier and my HUD pulled up that he was profitable - turns out he's beating HU but losing at 6max - there's no way to get the software to filter just by HU so far as I can see....

Sat down earlier with a player who had lost $400 in just a few hundred hands - didn't take me long to relieve him of another $50
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Old 17-09-2008, 21:04   #9 (permalink)
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Found another one

He's lost $363 in 385 hands
He can take another $50 off in 34 hands and he's reloaded
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Old 17-09-2008, 21:25   #10 (permalink)
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He's lost $363 in 385 hands
He can take another $50 off in 34 hands and he's reloaded
Oops - he's won it back (and more) - I guess I'm the dead money
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Old 17-09-2008, 22:12   #11 (permalink)
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Hmmmm .... my friendly little "fish" was nothing of the sort I think - he's now multitabling Heads Up and was pretty tough!! On the other table he has $370 in front of him (max buy in is $50) - I managed to get out with a 70xBB profit (but was behind most of the session)....

So what have I done wrong? 385 hands I KNOW is not a lot, but I thought anyone who loses over 7 buy ins in that time.........
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Old 17-09-2008, 23:20   #12 (permalink)
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How many sites is this looking at? Maybe he just doesn't play on these very much but is a winning player elsewhere.
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Old 17-09-2008, 23:54   #13 (permalink)
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I am only looking at a very small subsection of FullTilt games. The data I have is nowhere near anyones total results over any period of time, it is simply a sample from which I wish to try and extrapolate an impression on their ability - the more hands the more accurate it should become - and under 400 hands is nothing, but I thought it could be an indication (especially if someone drops more than 7 buy ins in that time).

Anyway - these are my results tonight - dead dead chuffed with them, because I dont consider myself a winning cash game player in any game or at any level (at best at some levels I consider myself about break even).



I attribute a signifcant proportion of this profit to the software - I'm still on the trial version, but at $45 to purchase, it has to be a no brainer doesn't it?

Would you believe, the last guy was 3 tabling HU, and he was losing like that everywhere
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Old 18-09-2008, 00:33   #14 (permalink)
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Nice one GaF?

I like the fact that if you're not beating them after 10 minutes, you will quietly leave, but if you are then you crush them til they've had enough
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Old 18-09-2008, 06:49   #15 (permalink)
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I thought I'd try an early morning session against tired/drunk yanks ...... just sat down with one of my fish and he wont play me because I'm boring and playing me is "like watching flies fcuk" So if anyone else wants to wipe out "BogeyMcGee" (FullTilt) for me, please be my guest
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I tried this software the other day and had no idea how to get it working. Instead i just use my own data mined stats and stats from a site that is likely to be shut down soon.

BTW Gaf did you really get up at 6am to play some drunk americans? If so was it worth it? I might have to try it .
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Old 18-09-2008, 17:12   #17 (permalink)
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I couldn't get any juicy sessions going - in the end I just didnt play more than a handful of hands. Might be worth trying Saturday/Sunday moring.....

I didn't get up specially, but was awake and up early anyway....
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Old 18-09-2008, 18:20   #18 (permalink)
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So what have I done wrong? 385 hands I KNOW is not a lot, but I thought anyone who loses over 7 buy ins in that time.........
Not sure about HU Gaf as I dont venture into that murky world or mine it but I would suggest that scanning based on amount won/lost especially over that amount of hands is not ideal.

Probably best to scan based on how a player plays AF VP etc because that way you can find winning fish as well, who have money to burn, whereas your way you will only find losing players
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I tried this software the other day and had no idea how to get it working. Instead i just use my own data mined stats and stats from a site that is likely to be shut down soon.
It should just work nade in conjunction with your PT3 database, if you need any help give me a shout.

I guess everyone has there own data but this program quickly scans all your data and sorts it into a format you want it in and identifies which table you should be playing at (and even puts you on the waiting list ). I think everyone wants to play against weaker plays and to find them quick and get down with them is essential and this baby helps you do that
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Not sure about HU Gaf as I dont venture into that murky world or mine it but I would suggest that scanning based on amount won/lost especially over that amount of hands is not ideal.

Probably best to scan based on how a player plays AF VP etc because that way you can find winning fish as well, who have money to burn, whereas your way you will only find losing players
I dont feel that stats like VPIP, PFR etc are too helpful in identifying fish HU - especially at the limits I'm playing - good players, winning players can play most ways - a lot more so than 6 max/full ring. I genuinely feel that profit/loss really is the best stat for Heads Up fish finding....

I dont feel that good players will often lose 7 full buy ins over that volume of hands
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