Choice of Focus games - General Debate

[The Quiet Man]

Originally Posted by RandR

I don't see it as necessary to keep money at all the sites I play at, just a couple of hundred $$$ in Neteller which can be deposited instantly whenever there is additional value in a tourney. I would imagine post PLers do the same (but am happy to be corrected).

Therefore I don't see much of a problem with using a non-core site if that is clearly the day's outstanding added-value tourney.

Yep, thats my tactics too!!

Any table, any site GaF as I'm out on the tomorrow for a change. (10am start - disguised as Golf)

I'll be playing the Laddies one anyway - fantastic value, even if I do hate the site. (on second thoughts, make the focus game the safety net, so that's it's easier for me on Laddies)

TQM

[Valiant23]

Quick answer.

Without fail we were playing Tikey's tourney on SO as a focus game because of the fantastic added value of $1000, so I think regardless of whether Ladbrokes is a core site then this Laddies game should be the focus game.

It provides trememndous value at an affordable buy-in.


You can guess in which direction my more lengthy post will go by this.

[GotaFancy?]

Originally Posted by Valiant23

It provides trememndous value at an affordable buy-in.

Persuasive

[Tax_Monkey]

I think the only time core site or not should matter is if we have more than one option offering the same or similar value. Otherwise go for the value

[Valiant23]

I don't like the idea behind core sites, but respect Gaf?'s decision in the matter. However if we didn't have 'core sites' I doubt there would be much debate about tomorrows focus game.

I do think added value tournaments should always be considered for focus gamesand I still think we should have one high buy-in tournament a month.

In fact I think added value MTT's should be automatic choices and instead of debating whether to have a tourney such as this one as a focus game we should in future be taking the opposite standpoint.

That is, if someone has a good reason why an added value game shouldn't be a focus game then we can discuss it from that angle (eg its a good value tourney but its on Pokerroom).

I don't see it as necessary to keep money at all the sites I play at, just a couple of hundred $$$ in Neteller which can be deposited instantly whenever there is additional value in a tourney. I would imagine post PLers do the same (but am happy to be corrected).

I do the same R and R but a lot of deposits over a small period of time can prove to be quite costly, which will deter people (me).

[Jaded]

Originally Posted by Hodgey

How about introduing a new "rule" that in any given month you can select 3 non core site value added focus games? This way the majority of focus games will be at core sites so the majority of time players wouldn't have to deposit all over the place but you wouldn't miss out on any extraordinary value tourneys.

Superb idea Hodgey

I'm strongly in favour of games like Laddies being focus games, personally I'm probably not good enough to do well in them, but surely we should be going for added value wherever possible?!

[GotaFancy?]

Mr V - deposits only cost cos we're screwed by neteller over exchange rates - otherwise they're "free" - I (and others I sugest) probably need to get organised and have access to a US$ neteller site - then deposits and withdrawals are "free" in the main

[GotaFancy?]

BTW I'm tending towards making the laddies game the focus game (sorry mick) - so any objections, speak now or forvever hold your peace.......

Opinion seems pretty clear!!!!!

[Pocket Lady]

I do not mind a focus game being non- core site, I have funds in Neteller and would deposit into Laddies for the $10 value game -but for example -

If I have a starting bankroll of $100 and I deposit into 3 sites that all want a minimum $25 deposit then that is 3/4 of my bankroll gone and now and then I will opt out of a non core site or a site that I do not hold funds in as I can't justify doing this.

I don't mind depositing for 1 value game but will stay within my set parameters for depositing and buying in "at my level" which the $100 game is far too much.

[RandR]

For anyone who has a GBP Neteller account, I'd suggest you do get it switched to USD as quick as possible. It's very painless - Neteller customer support will guide you through if you ask them - and means you don't get shafted on exchange fees every time you deposit.

Best decision I ever made!

[slick mick]

Laddies minimum deposit is £10 so fine by me.

[Penelopeys]

I think I will join in for a good game of poker on Laddies tomorrow... it's been a while

[gazabroad]

As You´re waiting for me, I´d better answer

Dont see the problem with a $10 buy in, never did.

To me, $100 games are for you good/better players than those of us that enjoy the focus games.
As for the core sites, that was your own idea, and as far as Prima etc it was a good one. I didnt think that meant we only used core sites to the exclusion of others.

BTW How come we havent got a Prima core site anymore?
What happened to Betway?

[GotaFancy?]

Ok - Laddies tomorrow is the focus game

Will have to reconsider my position on "core sites" as this clearly goes against the current "rules" - however the decision seems to be what people want (including me!!)

Following on from what Mr V said - I dont really like the core site concept either - but I wouldn't - it restricts my flexibility and choice!!! I brought it in to try and address concerns that were raised with regards to the number of sites we played.....

For the moment, I think where I see large value, then I will go for it - core site or not - where there isn't great value, then I will stick to a core site (or freeroll).

I think anyone who isn't using neteller to shift their money from site to site "following" value is probably losing out, so I don't think it's bad for your bank balances to encourage this a bit more.......

[GotaFancy?]

Originally Posted by gazabroad

BTW How come we havent got a Prima core site anymore?
What happened to Betway?

Cheers gaz

Betway were removed when they stopped running their PNL value added tourney - there was no reason to keep them as a core site any more - they didn't offer PL any leagues or anything and didn't have any regular buy in added value games.......

[Tax_Monkey]

Originally Posted by GotaFancy?(BPP)

Ok - Laddies tomorrow is the focus game

For the moment, I think where I see large value, then I will go for it - core site or not - where there isn't great value, then I will stick to a core site (or freeroll).

Deffo the way to go IMHO GaF?

Best go download Laddies

[wurzel133]

as a person who hasnt played a lot of focus games i like the concept of core sights as in the case of mansion and titan sponsoring leagues doesnt loyalty work both ways they have been very generous in the past and hopefully in the future aswell.
the idea of a set number of non core sites just for added value games makes perfect sense but i do fell you should support sites that support us

[the croc]

Originally Posted by Pocket Lady

I do not mind a focus game being non- core site, I have funds in Neteller and would deposit into Laddies for the $10 value game -but for example -

If I have a starting bankroll of $100 and I deposit into 3 sites that all want a minimum $25 deposit then that is 3/4 of my bankroll gone and now and then I will opt out of a non core site or a site that I do not hold funds in as I can't justify doing this.

I don't mind depositing for 1 value game but will stay within my set parameters for depositing and buying in "at my level" which the $100 game is far too much.

just do minimum deposit sam and after the game withdraw your funds back to neteller

[Valiant23]

Originally Posted by wurzel133

as a person who hasnt played a lot of focus games i like the concept of core sights as in the case of mansion and titan sponsoring leagues doesnt loyalty work both ways they have been very generous in the past and hopefully in the future aswell.
the idea of a set number of non core sites just for added value games makes perfect sense but i do fell you should support sites that support us

I see your point, but in truth a sensible customer should only be loyal to themselves, and these poker sites know that. Would you walk past Tesco's to go to your regular shop so that they can charge you twice the price? Of ourse not, and its a similar situation here.

How can we support Mansion fully when they seem intent on putting their decent tournies on at 3am?