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Old 11-12-2007, 19:18   #1 (permalink)
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Default Challenge 2: GaFs €50 to Something on Cash Tables - Challenge Failed

My first "challenge" has finished - I got to €1,007 from nothing Full story here - GaF's Nothing to Something thread (Current Bank €1007.85)

So challenge 2 - and I view this one as a lot harder - I've never really "cracked" cash games, but am going to give it my best shot now.....

I'm going to start with €50 and see how far I can go on the cash tables.
I will always sit down with the maximum, on 5 Seat NLHE tables.
The site is Virgin, so username pl---GaF.
I will play at the highest stakes my Bankroll allows. I will sit down with a maximum of 10% of my Bankroll (Except at 5c/10c where I will allow myself a larger percentage if necessary). So for example, I can only move up to 12c/25c when my bankroll reaches 25c * 100 * 10 = €250
Huge success I would view as hitting the 50c/$1 tables (which would mean bankroll is €1 * 100 * €1 = €1000) - If I'm honest I dont really expect to get there....
My aim is to play one table at a time and to CONCENTRATE!!!! However at the lower levels, I will allow myself to multitable...

Whilst the focus is cash tables, I only have one Virgin account, so will allow myself to play requirements to meet promotion targets - e.g. 15xSTT this week. I will do this for smallest stakes possible to minimise impact on the challenge.

I've just made a withdrawal which brings me to an exact starting balance of €49.97.

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Old 11-12-2007, 19:26   #2 (permalink)
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Old 11-12-2007, 19:36   #3 (permalink)
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Good luck mate
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Old 11-12-2007, 19:39   #4 (permalink)
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Good luck gaf
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Old 11-12-2007, 19:50   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Challenge 2: GaFs €50 to Something (that isn't nothing) on Cash Tables

Best of luck...

Also, May I suggest anybody who has a Party Poker account still open, to check their account as I had a $30 bonus in there that expires next week..

Ideal for copycat efforts

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Old 11-12-2007, 20:43   #6 (permalink)
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Good luck fella - I'll try and avoid you at the tables.

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Old 11-12-2007, 21:08   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: Challenge 2: GaFs €50 to Something (that isn't nothing) on Cash Tables

Session 1 not going well

I've turned the football on too

Am about €12 down at the moment

Well I did say this would be harder

Can't get my game right - I don't seem to have any fold equity, so have turned into a passive calling station - so it's no surprise I'm losing on 5 seaters!!

Will post the worst of my hands later
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Old 11-12-2007, 21:14   #8 (permalink)
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I cant even get paid off on my monster hands.....

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Old 11-12-2007, 21:19   #9 (permalink)
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Good luck with this mate.

I got gubbed on the cash tables this morning - gave back half my hard earned profit - so know how you feel.
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Old 11-12-2007, 21:28   #10 (permalink)
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See after you finish this can I set the challenge. I'll even bankroll you for it.
I got hammered at the tables today too, must be something in the PL water fountain.
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Old 11-12-2007, 21:32   #11 (permalink)
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Lol - would you be evil to me mate?

Some good news - I'm $12 down, not €12
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Old 11-12-2007, 22:22   #12 (permalink)
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gl with this gaf
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Old 11-12-2007, 22:29   #13 (permalink)
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Default Re: Challenge 2: GaFs €50 to Something on Cash Tables - Current Bank €55.77

Recovered my losses and a bit Bank now up to €55.77

Going to post my worst hands - I know they were bad - not looking for feedback trying to embarass myself into better discipline next time

BossMedia Game #862985416: Table Turbo TH 83 - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:05:04 - 2007/12/11
Seat 1: marcellusw ($16.60)
Seat 2: Davidjan1 ($18.53)
Seat 3: pl---GaF ($9.08)
Seat 5: noksu83 ($9.00)
pl---GaF posts the small blind of $0.05
noksu83 posts the big blind of $0.10
Davidjan1 is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pl---GaF [Qd Qh]
marcellusw folds
Davidjan1 calls $0.10
pl---GaF raises $0.50
noksu83 calls $0.50
Davidjan1 calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Kc 2s Js]
pl---GaF bets $1.00
noksu83 calls $1.00
Davidjan1 folds
*** TURN *** [Kc 2s Js] [As]
pl---GaF bets $1.70
noksu83 calls $1.70
*** RIVER *** [Kc 2s Js As] [6s]
pl---GaF goes all-in with $5.88

noksu83 goes all-in with $5.80
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.58 | Rake $0.92
Board: [Kc 2s Js As 6s]
marcellusw won ($0.00), mucks
Davidjan1 won ($0.00), mucks
pl---GaF won ($0.00), showed [Qd Qh]
noksu83 won ($17.58), showed [Ks Qs]



BossMedia Game #862934860: Table Turbo TH 83 - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:34:11 - 2007/12/11
Seat 1: marcellusw ($11.19)
Seat 2: Davidjan1 ($21.18)
Seat 3: pl---GaF ($10.94)
Seat 4: doctordick ($11.78)
Seat 5: noksu83 ($10.49)
doctordick posts the big blind of $0.10
pl---GaF posts the small blind of $0.05
marcellusw is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pl---GaF [9d Tc]
noksu83 calls $0.10
marcellusw calls $0.10
pl---GaF calls $0.10
doctordick checks
*** FLOP *** [Th Ad 7c]
pl---GaF checks
doctordick checks
noksu83 bets $0.10
marcellusw calls $0.10
pl---GaF calls $0.10
doctordick folds
*** TURN *** [Th Ad 7c] [Td]
pl---GaF checks
noksu83 bets $0.10
marcellusw raises $0.50
pl---GaF calls $0.50
noksu83 calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [Th Ad 7c Td] [Jh]
pl---GaF checks
noksu83 bets $0.40
marcellusw raises $3.00
pl---GaF calls $3.00
noksu83 folds
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.17 | Rake $0.43
Board: [Th Ad 7c Td Jh]
pl---GaF won ($0.00), mucks
marcellusw won ($8.17), showed [7h 7d]
Davidjan1 won ($0.00), showed [ER ER]
doctordick won ($0.00), mucks
noksu83 won ($0.00), mucks


BossMedia Game #863064967: Table Turbo TH 83 - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:52:27 - 2007/12/11
Seat 1: cigolè ($7.41)
Seat 2: -WaGer666- ($3.20)
Seat 3: pl---GaF ($11.17)
Seat 4: david92130 ($3.81)
Seat 5: kenza069 ($1.11)
pl---GaF posts the small blind of $0.05
david92130 posts the big blind of $0.10
-WaGer666- is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pl---GaF [Ts Td]
kenza069 calls $0.10
cigolè calls $0.10
-WaGer666- raises $0.50
pl---GaF raises $2.60

david92130 folds
kenza069 goes all-in with $1.11
cigolè folds
-WaGer666- goes all-in with $3.20
pl---GaF calls $3.20
*** FLOP *** [8h Jh 5s]
*** TURN *** [8h Jh 5s] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [8h Jh 5s 4c] [9s]
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.33 | Rake $0.38
Board: [8h Jh 5s 4c 9s]
pl---GaF won ($0.00), mucks
cigolè won ($0.00), mucks
-WaGer666- won ($7.33), showed [Qh Qs]
david92130 won ($0.00), mucks
kenza069 won ($0.00), mucks
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Old 11-12-2007, 22:31   #14 (permalink)
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Hope you turn the bad run round Gaf but it's been a surprisingly good night for me on the Boss $0.05/$0.10 5 seaters.

$19 profit for 30BB/100 over 600 hands 4 tabling. May be tempted to start a new challenge here myself.

Didn't realise GT+ works on Boss, so will get that going tomorrow.

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Old 11-12-2007, 22:35   #15 (permalink)
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Some Stats

Hands Played: 200
VP$IP 27.5%
PF Raise 16.5%
Table Minutes: 150
True Minute: 120
$Won: $8.51
BB/100: 21.27
BB/Hr: 17.02
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Old 11-12-2007, 22:36   #16 (permalink)
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Didn't realise GT+ works on Boss, so will get that going tomorrow.
It's fed from the PT Database, so anywhere that PT works with, then GT+ should work too
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Old 12-12-2007, 00:24   #17 (permalink)
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Some Stats

Hands Played: 200
VP$IP 27.5%
PF Raise 16.5%
Table Minutes: 150
True Minute: 120
$Won: $8.51
BB/100: 21.27
BB/Hr: 17.02
All 5 handed ??

Surely that VP$IP can't be for a 5 handed table ??

BTW - The article on Low Limit Cash Games in the latest Poker Player is quite good - I know theres a lot of basic stuff in there, but you may find a few nuggets to work with
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Surely that VP$IP can't be for a 5 handed table ??
I presume you're saying it's too tight? What do you think it should be?

To be honest, the post flop aggression factor (which I forgot to add there - will dig it out tonight) is my main concern at the moment (it was less than 1.00)
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To be honest, the post flop aggression factor (which I forgot to add there - will dig it out tonight) is my main concern at the moment (it was less than 1.00)
My aggression factor on the flop improved a bit - 1.44

Just sat down at 2 tables (Also spent €5.50 on tonights PLOPS)
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I presume you're saying it's too tight? What do you think it should be?

I'm not certain TBH - I play mostly 6 handed on Betfair, so i've no Poker Tracker stats.

It just seems low to say that your in the Blinds 2 Hands in every 5, and I would imagine at these levels a lot of pre-flop limps are the order of the day ??

So I would be expecting you re-raising the limpers a lot of the time, or failing that you should be playing a fair bit post flop, if your checking them down preflop.

Position is important, but I think aggression is slightly more important.

And together theyre a winning combination.
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