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Old 04-04-2008, 22:17   #1 (permalink)
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Default What's my play in this situation?

This is the final hand I'm due to play for this session. What's my play here:

***** Hand 1026050823 *****
0.12/0.25 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 04 April 2008 21:07:45
TH Mini 55 (Real /Cash Game )
Seat 1: TURBO-OMAR (25.46)
Seat 2: CM888 (19.16)
Seat 3: Csorsz3 (40.76)
Seat 4: Hedonists (40.56)
Seat 5: ekmo (24.75)
Seat 6: pecca69 (12.00)
Seat 7: babacarlos (20.33)
Seat 8: esekilly (27.72)
Seat 9: KovacsGY (51.83)
Seat 10: Snotblocked (32.93)
CM888 post SB 0.12
Csorsz3 post BB 0.25
** Deal **
TURBO-OMAR [N/A, N/A]
CM888 [N/A, N/A]
Csorsz3 [N/A, N/A]
Hedonists [Qc, Ac]
ekmo [N/A, N/A]
babacarlos [N/A, N/A]
esekilly [N/A, N/A]
KovacsGY [N/A, N/A]
Snotblocked [N/A, N/A]
*** Bet Round 1 ***
Hedonists Raise to 1.00
ekmo Call 1.00
babacarlos Fold
esekilly Fold
KovacsGY Fold
Snotblocked Fold
TURBO-OMAR Fold
CM888 Fold
Csorsz3 Call 1.00
*** Flop(Board): *** : [Qh, Jd, Js]
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Old 04-04-2008, 23:32   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: What's my play in this situation?

I'd bet a large proportion of the pot. If you get raised, you have to decide whether they have a Jack or not, but to me, a bet defines your hand.
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Old 05-04-2008, 00:23   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: What's my play in this situation?

As played pre flop.

Flop i'd bet about $2.50 - $3 and hope to take it down.

Basically what hornet said
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Old 05-04-2008, 03:00   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: What's my play in this situation?

For me, its a $4-5 bet

Any raise and Im out.

I want to TOTALLY understand what my bet is....J,2 has me fcuked


€2-3 might not be good enough to take it down
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Old 05-04-2008, 03:17   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: What's my play in this situation?

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For me, its a $4-5 bet

Any raise and Im out.

I want to TOTALLY understand what my bet is....J,2 has me fcuked


€2-3 might not be good enough to take it down
Agree, it's also possible they are drawing to a straight
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Old 05-04-2008, 04:26   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: What's my play in this situation?

There's only $3.12 in the pot, why would you ever bet $4-5?

FWIW if I bet, I bet like $2.4. Although sometimes I might check and make a delayed c-bet on the turn - in some people's minds this looks like a J. Read dependent as are most things... depends on the aggression of the other players. Whether I check or bet here I would have good reason though, either can be good.

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Old 05-04-2008, 14:10   #7 (permalink)
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*** Bet Round 2 ***
Csorsz3 Check
Hedonists Bet 2.50
ekmo Call 2.50
Csorsz3 Fold
*** Turn(Board): *** : [Qh, Jd, Js, 9d]
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Old 05-04-2008, 17:15   #8 (permalink)
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Aarggh! Not what you wanted to see. His call tells you little other than he has something (Q,J,draw) and the turn card is dangerous.

I'd check here, and fold to a bet. If he also has a Q or is still on the draw, he will probably take the free card. If the river was a blank, I'd put out a blocker bet of about a third of the pot (and again fold to a raise).
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Old 05-04-2008, 17:19   #9 (permalink)
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This is the final hand I'm due to play for this session.
Surely you have at least some info then?
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:53   #10 (permalink)
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Surely you have at least some info then?
Good question

Unfortunately, very little. The player arrived at the table very shortly before this hand came up, and joined without waiting for the Big Bilind to come around.
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Old 06-04-2008, 14:38   #11 (permalink)
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Can't see what he'd call your bet on the flop with unless he has k10 or a jack.

I'd check fold or if he really is a maniac check call, but I'm done with this hand most of the time.
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Old 06-04-2008, 20:34   #12 (permalink)
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I much prefer a bet/fold to a check fold here. The hands you are behind are Jx, K10 and 810. His range for calling the flop can be very wide Qx, any pocket pair, 109, A high, complete air looking to float. By check folding you will be giving up the best a hand a large amount of the time.

As played I would bet about $5.50 and be folding to a raise. Checking seems far too weak to me especially as a lot of players float/bluff paired flops regularly, a check is under representing your hand imo and check raise isn't really much of an option.

He may still call with a worse hand - 1010 will call a lot here, Q10 will call, KQ will call and maybe a few others, obviously if he raises you beat nothing but a bluff really or a made hand like one of the above turned into a bluff. If called river is obviously a check/fold unless he bets tiny or you spike a Q.
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