Tournament - AKo - reraised - M=8.5ish

[GaF]

Call or fold?

[slick mick]

After my experiences tonight I'd fold AK preflop

[Burnley Joe]

Call he has A 10

[robilaruk]

Originally Posted by GotaFancy?

Call or fold?

any other info? TAG/LAG/doing this alot?
how far to the money?
how are the other players playing?
are you comfortable folding and getting your chips back later?
do you need to go for a pee/walk/take the dog for a walk etc so you want it over and done with one way or the other?

ta

Damo

[GaF]

It's far enough from the money that that isn't a consideration - my only concern is tournament chips.

The stats on screen are Pokeroffice - of 25 hands I've seen, his VPIP is 28%, his PFR is 12% and his aggression is 7. So he's not afraid to be getting involved.

[daftpegasus]

He didn't need to put all his chips in the middle, therefore he's probably done it to scare you off, implying he doesn't have a monster. At worst you're up against a pp but your likely to have 2 over cards so you're in a race.

Therefore the decision is based on the value of the tournament, your read on the player, the stage of the tournament, etc.

You can put forward a case to justify both a call or a fold in this situation.

[Mr Intensity]

I think the chips stacks are important here - he's got way more than anyone else at the table. Have you seen him accumulate many of these or did he have them when you got there? To me it looks like he's bullying with the stack, widening the range he could have as opposed to someone making the all in with a similar stack to yours. Because of that, I'd call - but then I do like a gamble.

[robilaruk]

Originally Posted by GotaFancy?

It's far enough from the money that that isn't a consideration - my only concern is tournament chips.

The stats on screen are Pokeroffice - of 25 hands I've seen, his VPIP is 28%, his PFR is 12% and his aggression is 7. So he's not afraid to be getting involved.

Call then, I would agree that he is probably bullying and is prepared to gamble to knock you out and pick up a decent stack to add to his own.

You might be a very large fav here 70/30, and in much better shape 'later' when you are AI with shite hoping for a fold etc.

I hadn't noticed the stats, never used PT/PO et al as I don't play cash and though i understand their limited value in tourney re the ever increasing blinds, I think they do give some indication of how LAAG the villian is.

Cheers

Damo

[AJ]

It's a scared push, he wants a fold.

However his chips are already on the table and your aren't. It's that gap concept yet again.

You could be well ahead facing AJ or AQ, but you could be behind to a pocket pair.

At best you're racing I think. your "m" is still high enough that you don't need to gamble.

Strong arguements for either call, but on balance I'm just about folding

[GaF]

In the event I wimped out and folded - I think I'd usually have called, but being in the "equity exchange club" I felt the need to be more disciplined and to try harder to make the "right" play and I just couldnt muster the call.

[ubermonkey1]

pretty much insta call for me i think
you might donk out but at worst it's a race and you could well be dominating him.
you need to double thru soon and this looks as good as it will get.

[Fonzie14]

I'd have called as well. Defo looks like a big stack bully to me.

[GaF]

Everyone happy with the 2.5xBB pre flop raise? (into a pot worth 675 with the ante's)

[Fonzie14]

Originally Posted by GotaFancy?

Everyone happy with the 2.5xBB pre flop raise? (into a pot worth 675 with the ante's)

Hadn't noticed that .....think I might of increased my PFR to about 1250ish, but don't think it woul of stopped bullyboy from shoving, but may of made your next decission easier.

Had you given any thought to your reaction to a shove after your PFR? It's something I am trying to get into my game, planning ahead so to speak.

[ubermonkey1]

think i might of raised a little more due to the antes.
if you get a late caller the blinds might well feel priced in as well ,then you could be looking at a trouble hand.i'd make it 3-4 bb i think

[GaF]

Not really - I'm wanting to win the blinds and antes without putting any more chips in - no plan B

I need to reread Gus Hansens book, but that's the inspiration - once antes kick in then it seems important to keep picking up blinds and antes uncontested with small raises (and get away from it when meeting resistance)

[GaF]

If I'm going to raise bigger, and leave myself pot commited and unable to get away from the hand, should I not just shove all in to maximise my fold equity? (and increase the chance that low and mid pocket pairs fold)

[ubermonkey1]

yeah actually i think your right there
was thinking in general but in this situation the all in is probably the better bet.

[Fonzie14]

Going back to Harrington,your M is below 10, so yeah a push is in order.

[george2loose]

snap call- his stats suggest his range is wide- you're probably racing a good proportion of the time- if you're happy to race for it, call