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Old 24-05-2008, 07:00   #21 (permalink)
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Default Re: Flop top pair (Q Kick) and Q high Flush draw - what's gameplan?

No I tell a lie (just dug out the hand history) and I donked off faaaaar too many chips on the hand. I hit the flush on the river, but he had the Ks (with the Jc) - so as it happens I was in pretty bad shape throughout....

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***** Hand 1092896962 *****
10.00/20.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 23 May 2008 21:02:38
Poker League (Real /Tournament )
Seat 1: cossac (1500.00)
Seat 2: ncardeira+ (1490.00)
Seat 3: PLwarbirds (1460.00)
Seat 4: saja777 (1570.00)
Seat 5: BosanacBiH (1500.00)
Seat 6: Dedo68 (1500.00)
Seat 7: JMourinho1 (1500.00)
Seat 8: PLTelepee (1480.00)
Seat 9: PLdobbin (1500.00)
PLwarbirds post SB 10.00
saja777 post BB 20.00
** Deal **
cossac [N/A, N/A]
ncardeira+ [N/A, N/A]
PLwarbirds [N/A, N/A]
saja777 [N/A, N/A]
BosanacBiH [N/A, N/A]
Dedo68 [N/A, N/A]
JMourinho1 [N/A, N/A]
PLTelepee [Jd, Qs]
PLdobbin [N/A, N/A]
*** Bet Round 1 ***
BosanacBiH Call 20.00
Dedo68 Fold
JMourinho1 Fold
PLTelepee Call 20.00
PLdobbin Fold
cossac Call 20.00
ncardeira+ Fold
PLwarbirds Call 20.00
saja777 Check
*** Flop(Board): *** : [3s, 8s, Js]
*** Bet Round 2 ***
PLwarbirds Check
saja777 Bet 100.00
BosanacBiH Fold
PLTelepee Call 100.00
cossac Call 100.00
PLwarbirds Fold
*** Turn(Board): *** : [3s, 8s, Js, Ac]
*** Bet Round 3 ***
saja777 Check
PLTelepee Check
cossac Bet 200.00
saja777 Fold
PLTelepee Call 200.00
*** River(Board): *** : [3s, 8s, Js, Ac, 9s]
*** Bet Round 4 ***
PLTelepee Check
cossac Bet 400.00
PLTelepee Call 400.00
*** Showdown *** : Rake: 0.00 Total Pot: 1600.00
cossac [Jc, Ks] Flush to the king Win: 1600.00
ncardeira+ Fold Win: 0.00
PLwarbirds Fold Win: 0.00
saja777 Fold Win: 0.00
BosanacBiH Fold Win: 0.00
Dedo68 Fold Win: 0.00
JMourinho1 Fold Win: 0.00
PLTelepee Fold Win: 0.00
PLdobbin Fold Win: 0.00
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Old 24-05-2008, 09:50   #22 (permalink)
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Default Re: Flop top pair (Q Kick) and Q high Flush draw - what's gameplan?

Wow you run bad, chances of that hand are miniscule.
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Old 24-05-2008, 11:52   #23 (permalink)
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Default Re: Flop top pair (Q Kick) and Q high Flush draw - what's gameplan?

Glad I folded QJ preflop to be honest.
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Old 25-05-2008, 08:33   #24 (permalink)
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Wow you run bad, chances of that hand are miniscule.
I disagree, there was every chance that someone was holding KJ or K8.
5 limpers is a bad sign for that flop. GaF didnt know where he was at any point in the hand and would have been better off discarding it from the start. An aggressive raise on the turn representing the As may have saved a few chips on the river, but its a horrible hand to play from the start.
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Old 25-05-2008, 08:36   #25 (permalink)
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Old 25-05-2008, 09:10   #26 (permalink)
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Wow you run bad, chances of that hand are miniscule.

the odds maybe small that someone has you pipped on both hands pre hand,but surely having 3 flat callers should be screaming that its likely they have ax ,2 sooted or 2 face cards which are all the things that could be beating you.
add in the blinds who could also have the same sort of thing(or nothing)and i would say that its reasonably likely that you are beat at least one way and its not that weird to be beaten both ways.
lucky the other guy didnt have as j as it could have got even nastier
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Old 25-05-2008, 18:16   #27 (permalink)
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I was being flippant TBH .
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