3 suited cards

[Tweetypie05]

Played in the V-Point Freeroll last night.
I'm not sure if I played this right and was hoping for some thoughts!

My hand was QQ in mid-position... folded to me. 30 players left.
I had 9K and the Blinds were 1200.

I raised 3xBB and had 1 caller - the big stack with 50K - sitting behind me.

Flop came 3 clubs - 8, 4, 3 I think...

What should I have done next?

Was my pre-flop 3xBB raise enough?

[happyhornet]

In that position with only 7/8 big blinds left, I would have pushed all in with QQ (or indeed a lot less) pre-flop.

Having seen the flop, i would say you are pretty much committed to the pot, so push all in. The big stack will almost definitely call, and it's time.

[Valiant23]

Originally Posted by happyhornet

In that position with only 7/8 big blinds left, I would have pushed all in with QQ (or indeed a lot less) pre-flop.

Having seen the flop, i would say you are pretty much committed to the pot, so push all in. The big stack will almost definitely call, and it's time.

Sounds good to me.

[Tweetypie05]

I did think afterwards it would have been better to go ALL-IN pre-flop.
Was trying to represent strength by not going ALL-IN!
Then bet ALL-IN on the flop, which I did!
I hoped that the calller didn't have the AKQ of clubs.
Sadly... the chip-leader had A4 of CLUBS!

I had gone ALL-IN... he typed lol and called... no miracle on the river!

Live and learn! Cheers guys.

[robilaruk]

shove PF - 3XBB is nearly 40% of your stack with the blinds that big? - you cannot pay that much and then fold to any flop (even AKK) - too many chips invested at this point and if you fold you will in the pot very soon with a much worse hand.

as you didn't shove PF then either

1) shove the flop (may look like desperation - AK etc)

or

be tricky, let him bet and then reriase shove/call dependant on his bet - either is good


and if you check and he checks and the turn is a club - then shove

if he has a club and beats you - thats just the way it goes

Damo

Originally Posted by Tweetypie05

Played in the V-Point Freeroll last night.
I'm not sure if I played this right and was hoping for some thoughts!

My hand was QQ in mid-position... folded to me. 30 players left.
I had 9K and the Blinds were 1200.

I raised 3xBB and had 1 caller - the big stack with 50K - sitting behind me.

Flop came 3 clubs - 8, 4, 3 I think...

What should I have done next?

Was my pre-flop 3xBB raise enough?

[Dave488]

Think I would push all in pre-flop as said above you have commited nearly half your stack anyway and hope to get called by an inferior hand.

[AJ]

similar thing happened to me last night.

Had KK as the big blind, it was raised 3x BB by the time it got to me. I flat called it. Only 2 of us in, the flop comes with 3 diamonds, he raises 10 x BB, I folded without thought and was happy to do so.

In your case, short stacked I'd push

[Tweetypie05]

I think my probelm was that I wanted a caller as I wanted to double up then and there so I could start playing hands and hope to get to the final table. If I had shoved pre-flop I felt everyone would probably fold and therefore I would be left in the same situation again in 3-4 hands time.

I know I should have gone ALL-IN if I wanted to win outright but was my tactic (LOL) of not shoving pure fool-hardiness, was this my best tactic to get some money out of people and shorten the field to reduce the number of players I was against or should I have flat called and waited to shove on the flop?

Would most likely have been the same result, in this case, but is the only play ALL-IN pre-flop with my chip stack?

[happyhornet]

"Would most likely have been the same result, in this case, but is the only play ALL-IN pre-flop with my chip stack?"

Answer: (IMO) Yes

If you are first to act, pull the trigger. You win the blinds only! Well that is an 1800 chip gain on top of your 9000. You get a caller, you are in with a chance of doubling up. You lose, then it wasn't your day.