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Old 16-11-2006, 04:29   #1 (permalink)
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Default Australian A League Round 13 - Nov 17/Nov 19

Australian A League Round 13

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QUEENSLAND ROAR
$3.55
$3.30
$1.95
MELBOURNE VICTORY

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PERTH GLORY
$2.35
$3.25
$2.75
NEWCASTLE UNITED JETS

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NEW ZEALAND KNIGHTS
$5.00
$3.65
$1.60
CENTRAL COAST MARINERS

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SYDNEY FC
$2.25
$3.20
$2.95
ADELAIDE UNITED
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Old 16-11-2006, 04:41   #2 (permalink)
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Early thoughts for Round 13

There are some good games this weekend and plenty of value prices if you can manage to land a winner, with no real standouts unless you consider the Mariners away to the Knights as a good thing.

Queensland/Melbourne
Queensland have had a change of Coach and this usually inspires a team to perform better and at $3-55 they are good odds as they tend to play well at home. Melbourne are unbeaten away from home this season and will have Vargas and Muscat back in defence this week, and considering they are undefeated and belted the Roar 4-1 lst time, then Victory is probably good value too.

Perth/Jets
The Glory have a great head to head record against the Jets and this will be an interesting match as Perth welcome back Lazaridis and Colosimo which will tighten them up no end. Newcastle Jets have been on fire with wins over Adelaide and the Mariners and a good draw with Sydney, and at $2-75 they are pretty good odds for a form side.

Knights/Mariners
The Mariners are way too short here for mine and NZ have also had their Coach changed through the week which may impact they way they play this game. The Knights have beaten Adelaide and Queensland at home and are a hard side to work out what how they are going to play. You would think the away side would win this but not at that price.

Sydney/Adelaide
The clash of the round between two of the A League’s best teams. Adelaide have been quite brilliant after they lost their first 2 games. Sydney hammered then in Adelaide last time out when Carbone inspired Sydney to a 4-1 win. Sydney have a top head to head record against Adelaide and would be slight favourites here at home. It will depend on what players are on the park, both sides have returning star players in recent weeks.
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Old 16-11-2006, 05:26   #3 (permalink)
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Queensland/Melbourne
Queensland have had a change of Coach and this usually inspires a team to perform better and at $3-55 they are good odds as they tend to play well at home. Melbourne are unbeaten away from home this season and will have Vargas and Muscat back in defence this week, and considering they are undefeated and belted the Roar 4-1 lst time, then Victory is probably good value too.
Will certainly be interesting to see how this turns out Beejay. Doesnt matter what league it is, when a team sacks its manager there seems to be a pattern where they win the following week. Newcastle had not won a game after 7 rounds and sacked their manager, since then they have won 4 from 5 with the other being a draw.

Queensland a good team and are even better at home, while Frank Farina is a very good coach who coached the National team for 6 years and was moments away from getting them to the world cup on two occasions. This will be a danger match for Melbourne for sure who are 100% on the road. I was at the last match where Melb won 4-1 and the scoreline flattered them, they received 2 penalties which maybe shouldnt of been given and the other 2 Melb goals can be put down to bad defending.

So will certainly be a good game and one i am looking forward to watching
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Old 16-11-2006, 07:34   #4 (permalink)
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Will certainly be interesting to see how this turns out Beejay. Doesnt matter what league it is, when a team sacks its manager there seems to be a pattern where they win the following week. Newcastle had not won a game after 7 rounds and sacked their manager, since then they have won 4 from 5 with the other being a draw.

Queensland a good team and are even better at home, while Frank Farina is a very good coach who coached the National team for 6 years and was moments away from getting them to the world cup on two occasions. This will be a danger match for Melbourne for sure who are 100% on the road. I was at the last match where Melb won 4-1 and the scoreline flattered them, they received 2 penalties which maybe shouldnt of been given and the other 2 Melb goals can be put down to bad defending.

So will certainly be a good game and one i am looking forward to watching
Good writeup Ads and you may be on the money, and the Roar are at good odds and might be worth a +1 bet as they have only been losing games because of their inability to score, but they do not go so well against the top sides to be honest.
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Old 16-11-2006, 09:55   #5 (permalink)
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Hyundai A-League Round 13 Teams

Queensland Roar v Melbourne Victory
Friday 17 November, 7.00pm AEST (8.00pm AEDT, 7.30pm ACDT, 5.00pm AWST)
Suncorp Stadium, Queensland

Queensland Squad: 1.Tom WILLIS (gk), 2.Andrew PACKER, 4.Chad GIBSON (Captain), 5.Josh McCLOUGHAN, 6.Stuart McLAREN, 7.Marcus WEDAU, 9.Simon LYNCH, 10.Ante MILICIC, 11.REINALDO, 13.Spase DILEVSKI, 14.Ben GRIFFIN 15.Matthew McKAY, 16.Hyuk-Su SEO, 18.Dario VIDOSIC, 19.Sasa OGNENOVSKI, 20.Liam REDDY (gk). *one to be omitted

In: Chad Gibson (promoted)
Out: Nil

Others Unavailable: Massimo Murdocca (foot injury – 6-8 weeks)


Melbourne Squad: 20.Eugene GALEKOVIC (gk), 2.Kevin MUSCAT (Captain), 3.Daniel PIORKOWSKI, 6.Steve PANTELIDIS, 7.Michael FERRANTE, 8.FRED, 9.Daniel ALLSOPP, 10.Archie THOMPSON, 12.Rodrigo VARGAS, 13.Kristian SARKIES, 15.Adrian LEIJER, 16.Simon STOREY, 17.Grant BREBNER, 18.ALESSANDRO, 30.Peter GAVALAS (gk).

In: Kevin Muscat (return from suspension), Rodrigo Vargas (return from suspension), Peter Gavalas (short-term contract)
Out: Michael Theoklitos (back - 1 week), Adrian Caceres (groin – 1 week), Mark Byrnes (omitted)

Others Unavailable: Nil

Impending stats, facts and trivia
Melbourne Victory will be aiming to create a new Hyundai A-League record for most number of consecutive away wins - six. The current Hyundai A-League record of five straight wins on the road was first achieved by Adelaide United throughout the 2005/06 season, and equalled by the Victory in their last away match, against New Zealand in Auckland in Round 10.


Perth Glory v Newcastle Jets
Saturday 18 November, 5.00pm AWST (8.00pm (AEDT), 7.00pm AEST (Qld only), 7.30pm ACDT)
Members Equity Stadium, Perth

Perth Squad: 20.Aleks VRTESKI (gk) 3.David TARKA, 4.Simon COLOSIMO, 5.Jamie HARNWELL (Captain), 6.Jeremy CHRISTIE, 7.Mimi SARIC, 8.David MICEVSKI, 9.Luka GLAVAS, 10.Bobby DESPOTOVSKI, 11.Stan LAZARIDIS, 12.Leo BERTOS, 13.Ante KOVACEVIC, 14.Jamie COYNE, 16.Adrian WEBSTER, 17.Stuart YOUNG, 19.Naum SEKULOVSKI, 50. Tommi TOMICH (gk) *two to be omitted

In: Mimi Saric (promoted), Simon Colosimo (return from injury), Bobby Despotovski (return from injury), Stan Lazaridis (return from injury).
Out:
Ryan Townsend (omitted), Josip Magdic (omitted)

Others Unavailable: Jason Petkovic (broken leg - season), Mark Robertson (groin – 4 weeks)


Newcastle Squad: 1. Ivan NECEVSKI (gk), 2. Steve EAGLETON, 3. Jade NORTH, 5. Milton RODRIGUEZ, 6. Andrew DURANTE, 8. Matt THOMPSON, 9. Vaughan COVENY, 10. Nick CARLE, 12. Paul OKON (Captain), 15. Stuart MUSIALIK, 16. Labinot HALITI, 18. Joel GRIFFITHS, 19. Mark BRIDGE, 20. Ben KENNEDY (gk), 22. Steven OLD, 24. Paul KOHLER *one to be omitted

In: Andrew Durante (return from suspension)
Out: Nil

Others Unavailable: Craig Deans (knee – season), Jobe Wheelhouse (ankle – season)

Impending stats, facts and trivia
Perth Glory played two Hyundai A-League debutants in their previous match against Melbourne Victory: Josip Magdic and Tommi Tomich. Magdic, a local player previously with Floreat Athena, was signed up by the Glory at the start of this season while goalkeeper Tomich, a long-time player with Perth team Western Knights - who also had a stint with Melbourne Knights in the old national league - has been signed on a short-term contract.


New Zealand Knights v Central Coast Mariners
Sunday 19 November, 5.00pm NZDT (3.00pm AEDT, 2.00pm AEST (Qld only), 2.30pm ACDT, 12.00pm AWST)
North Harbour Stadium, Auckland

New Zealand Squad: 1.Danny MILOSEVIC (gk), 2.Darren BAZELEY (Captain), 4.Che BUNCE, 6.Neil EMBLEN, 8.Scot GEMMILL, 11.Jonti RICHTER, 12. Mark PASTON, 14.Malik BUARI, 15.Noah HICKEY, 18. Michael WHITE, 19.Sime KOVACEVIC, 20.Michael TURNBULL (gk), 26. FERNANDO de Moraes 27. Dustin WELLS

In: Danny Milosevic (promoted)
Out: Greg Duruz (suspension – 1 week), Adam Casey (hamstring 4-6 weeks)

Others Unavailable: Matt Carbon (groin – long term), Richard Johnson (hamstring 3-4 weeks), Dani Rodrigues (knee - season), Sean Devine (back – 3-4 weeks), Jonas Salley (ankle – 3-4 weeks)


Central Coast Squad: 20.Danny VUKOVIC (gk) 2.Wayne O’SULLIVAN, 5.Bradley PORTER, 7.John HUTCHINSON, 8.Jamie McMASTER, 9.Nik MRDJA, 11.Damien BROWN, 12.Stewart PETRIE, 13.Tony VIDMAR, 14.Vuko TOMASEVIC, 15.Andrew CLARK, 18.Alex WILKINSON, 19.Adam KWASNIK, 23.Mile JEDINAK, 25.Damian MORI, 30.Matthew TROTT (gk) *one to be omitted

In: Nik Mrdja (promoted), Vuko Tomasevic (promoted), Andrew Clark (returns from injury)
Out: Paul O’Grady (hamstring – 6 weeks), Noel Spencer (groin – 2 weeks)

Others Unavailable: John Crawley (hip – season), Andre Gumprecht (knee – 2 weeks), Tom Pondeljak (knee – 2 weeks), Nigel Boogaard (osteitis pubis – 6 weeks), Matt Osman (groin – 4 weeks)

Impending stats, facts and trivia
Perth Glory played two Hyundai A-League debutants in their previous match against Melbourne Victory: Josip Magdic and Tommi Tomich. Magdic, a local player previously with Floreat Athena, was signed up by the Glory at the start of this season while goalkeeper Tomich, a long-time player with Perth team Western Knights - who also had a stint with Melbourne Knights in the old national league - has been signed on a short-term contract.


Sydney FC v Adelaide United
Sunday 19 November, 5.00pm AEDT (4.00pm AEST (Qld only), 4.30pm ACDT, 2.00pm AWST)
Aussie Stadium, Sydney

Sydney FC Squad: 1.Clint BOLTON (gk), 2.Iain FYFE, 3.Alvin CECCOLI, 4.Mark RUDAN (Captain), 6.Ufuk TALAY, 7.Robbie MIDDLEBY, 8.Ruben ZADKOVICH, 9.David ZDRILIC, 10.Steve CORICA, 11.Sasho PETROVSKI, 12.David CARNEY, 14.Alex BROSQUE, 15.Terry McFLYNN, 16.Mark MILLIGAN, 20.Justin PASFIELD (gk), 21.Nikolai TOPOR-STANLEY *One to be omitted

In: Steve Corica (return from injury), Terry McFlynn (return from injury)
Out: Nil

Others Unavailable: Jacob Timpano (groin – 1 week)


Adelaide Squad: 1.Daniel BELTRAME (gk), 2.Richie ALAGICH, 3.Kristian REES, 4.Angelo COSTANZO, 5.Michael VALKANIS, 6.Ross ALOISI (Captain), 8.Carl VEART, 9.Matthew KEMP, 10.FERNANDO, 12.Greg OWENS, 13.Travis DODD, 14.Aaron GOULDING, 15.Nathan BURNS, 18.Robert CORNTHWAITE, 20.Robert BAJIC (gk), 21.Jason SPAGNUOLO *One to be omitted

In: Unchanged
Out: Unchanged

Others Unavailable: 7. Lucas Pantelis (knee – season), Dez Giraldi (ankle – 2 weeks), Shengqing Qu (ankle – 1 week), Bobby Petta (test)

Impending stats, facts and trivia
This will be the seventh Hyundai A-League meeting between two of the league's biggest rivals. In their six confrontations so far, 23 goals have been scored - the highest amount of goals in matches between two Hyundai A-League teams. Of these previous matches, including two Major Semi Final classics in the 2006 Finals Series, Sydney have won four, Adelaide just one, with one draw.
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the magic 8 ball says the knights will win this weekend after the sacking of their coach!
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the magic 8 ball says the knights will win this weekend after the sacking of their coach!
What does the 8 ball say about Queensland with a new Coach? Although he wasn't sacked
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I see good value in Queensland but i will wait for a bigger preview from you guys!
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I'm pretty surprised about the $2.20 offered for Melbourne .. My own rules on soccer betting decree that I won't be on the Victory tonight, but for those degenerates who haven't banned themselves from playing away teams in soccer then the visitors are value imo ..

The only reason the line makers have set such generous odds for Melbourne is the old "new coach first week" chestnut .. Who knows, Farina's influence may suddenly cure the Roar's inability to score goals, but I don't buy it .. Melbourne is a superior team and I think they'll sneak away with it ..

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I'm pretty surprised about the $2.20 offered for Melbourne .. My own rules on soccer betting decree that I won't be on the Victory tonight, but for those degenerates who haven't banned themselves from playing away teams in soccer then the visitors are value imo ..

The only reason the line makers have set such generous odds for Melbourne is the old "new coach first week" chestnut .. Who knows, Farina's influence may suddenly cure the Roar's inability to score goals, but I don't buy it .. Melbourne is a superior team and I think they'll sneak away with it ..
It's good to see someone with the discipline to stick to the rules that they have provided for themselves Mr F

I was just wondering what some of your reasons were for not backing away teams at all. I agree it is a good idea to take it out of the equation, and if it results in you winning more than you lose on the punt then that's a good thing. I don't mind betting away teams as a rule as they are generally better odds when away from home, and realistically a grounds a ground when all is said and done, the game still has to be played. Home ground advantage has always been prevalent in Soccer though and some teams just can't win away.

The A League seems to have a bit of a home ground advantage this year, whereas last year it was the opposite. I agree with you about the value on Melbourne. Around $2-00 for a team that has only lost one game. regains 2 strong defenders and is unbeaten away, is definitely value in my book.
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Simmonds at the NZ helm

The New Zealand Knights have appointed Barry Simmonds as interim manager of the club.

Simmonds was only recently appointed to the newly created director of football role to help outgoing manager Paul Nevin with the football operations at the Knights, but after 10 days in the country he is now in charge.

Simmonds believes he will bring 'fresh energy' to the position because of his recent arrival in New Zealand.

"Paul would be the first to say it was a hard slog for him and I haven't been caught up in all that," Simmonds said.

The former director of scouting at Bolton was present when Nevin announced to the squad that he had been dismissed and he was amazed by the loyalty of the players.
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The A League has played 12 rounds so far and I thought I would do a comparison between the first 6 rounds and the last 6 rounds to see who is improving with regards to goal shots and conversion.

The Figures on the right show the difference between each 6 rounds and as can be seen the Mariners are the big improvers with their conversion rate going from 1 in 33 to a now healthy 1 in 11. Adelaide have also improved in shots, goals and conversion rate. Blue is good and Red is not so good

Team

Shots
Goals
Per Goal
Shots
Goals
Per Goal
Shots
Goals
Per Goal
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Melbourne Vict
R12
136
27
5.0
R6
71
15
4.7
65
12
0.3
2
Sydney FC
R12
145
20
7.3
R6
65
11
5.9
80
9
1.3
3
Adelaide Utd
R12
170
22
7.7
R6
71
9
7.9
99
13
-0.2
4
Newcastle Jets
R12
178
16
11.1
R6
66
6
11.0
112
10
0.1
5
CC Mariners