UEFA Cup » May 07 - The Punters Lounge

Djordje · 04-05-2009, 13:13

Thursday 7 May 2009	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Shakhtar v Dynamo Kyiv (17:30BST)	2.20	3.40	3.85	100.84 %	Details »
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Hamburger SV v Werder Bremen (19:45BST)	2.52	3.60	3.00	100.79 %	Details »

1907zico · 04-05-2009, 13:53

Oh what happened here?

Bookmakers learned their lesson and rate Bremen and Hamburg on almost same level (Bremen higher odds due to away match).

NO BET for me this time, too good job by bookmakers (finally)

Skunk · 07-05-2009, 08:45

I'm going to go with Werder to qualify here, I really like the 3,2 odds. and considering that they are only interested in 2 competitions at the moment (Uefa and German Cup) I think they will have a very motivated team today.

There is great value in the odd that is why I'm going to go with a small stake on it

Mahno · 07-05-2009, 08:54

Shakhtar v Dynamo

Very hard match to call.Dynamo has nothing to loose now as Shakhtar scored away goal.So i expect Dynamo to play attacking football.Don't think Shakhtar will rush for a goal.Shakhtar's players are more experienced and they know how to get positive result.I think Chygrynskiy will play personaly against Milevskiy,while Bangoura doesn't impress me much anyway.Standarts by Aliev could be dengerous.Luchesku didn't loose to Semin in Ukraine yet.Shakhtar always strong at home and if brazilians will be in a good mood then Dynamo will be in trouble.

Team news...

Shakhtar: No injured players.Kucher suspended
Dynamo: Romanchuk,Diakate,Kravec,Gusev,Mihalik,Shackih are injured and won't play.

Teams will probably play with same squads as last time.
My bets are:

Shakhtar to win 11/10
Shakhtar To Qualify 8/15
Fernandinho anytime scorer 16/5
Jadson anytime scorer 11/4
Shakhtar to score at 1st half - evens
Shakhtar to score 2 or more goals 5/4
over 2.5 6/5

All bets placed with Paddy Power

GL

I may be well wrong,you just never know...

1907zico · 07-05-2009, 09:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skunk

I'm going to go with Werder to qualify here, I really like the 3,2 odds. and considering that they are only interested in 2 competitions at the moment (Uefa and German Cup) I think they will have a very motivated team today.

There is great value in the odd that is why I'm going to go with a small stake on it

Yeah definetely that would be a good bet.

Bremen rested players like Diego and so on last weekend (media observed them playing football with friends.. - Bremen officially anounced that Diego, özil and so on are injured and therefore not playing against Köln..).

They are capable of scoring two, even though it is away. Compared to league matches they have no problems in UefaCup to play awayfrom home.

Best of luck with your pick, it seems to be one of the rare value bets in this match

zatoichi · 07-05-2009, 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahno

Shakhtar v Dynamo

Very hard match to call.Dynamo has nothing to loose now as Shakhtar scored away goal.So i expect Dynamo to play attacking football.Don't think Shakhtar will rush for a goal.Shakhtar's players are more experienced and they know how to get positive result.I think Chygrynskiy will play personaly against Milevskiy,while Bangoura doesn't impress me much anyway.Standarts by Aliev could be dengerous.Luchesku didn't loose to Semin in Ukraine yet.Shakhtar always strong at home and if brazilians will be in a good mood then Dynamo will be in trouble.

Team news...

Shakhtar: No injured players.Kucher suspended
Dynamo: Romanchuk,Diakate,Kravec,Gusev,Mihalik,Shackih are injured and won't play.

Teams will probably play with same squads as last time.
My bets are:

Shakhtar to win 11/10
Shakhtar To Qualify 8/15
Fernandinho anytime scorer 16/5
Jadson anytime scorer 11/4
Shakhtar to score at 1st half - evens
Shakhtar to score 2 or more goals 5/4
over 2.5 6/5

All bets placed with Paddy Power

GL

I may be well wrong,you just never know...

Which players from Dinamo that won't play are from first 11?Thanks

kullykhalsa · 07-05-2009, 12:14

got shaktar and hamburg on the double here, shaktar got the away goal at kiev a week or 2 ago, and that will mean kiev have to press when shaktar are allowed space and time they will punish u just ask barcelona :P, fernandinho and jadson are 2 quality players so i cnt see past a 1-0 maybe 2-0 to shaktar.

the other game is harder to call but i see hamburg scraping a win here, werder are atrocious away from home and i kno ppl say its different in the uefa cup but seeing as there playing in germany against another german club surely it becomes a normal away game.....hamburg have great home form and an outstanding player in ivica olic, diego is my only worry he can turn a game on its head, ive gone for shaktar and hamburg to win and a seperate bet on diego to score anytime!

blackcrow · 07-05-2009, 12:57

Shaktar Donetsk (2.15 @ centrebet)
With the tie poised at 1-1 and Shaktar of the all important away goal, then Kiev are the team that will need to attack in order to win this game. As such this should leave holes in their defence and give Shaktar the opportunity to hit them on the counter attack. They have shown that they are very strong at home have won all of their last 5 games and have not conceded a goal in all competitions, including beating both Marseille and CSKA Moscow 2-0. They face their Ukrainian rival who have not been their best on the road and drew with PSV 0-0 and lost to Metalist 3-2 in their last 2 away games in this competition. They did beat Kiev 1-0 at home back in November in the Ukrainian league so look to them to repeat this to send them into the final.

Hamburg (2.50 @ centrebet)
Hamburg lead 1-0 after the first leg and with that away goal, they can afford to sit back and wait for Bremen to come at them. They have the likes of Olic up front with his speed to take advantage of swift counter attacks to knock them out, as well as his partner Petric is expected to play. Werder will seek to play a more offensive game from the start, which will play right into the hands of Hamburg, who know this will be the likely way the game is played.
They have won 2 and drawn 1 of their last 3 Bundesliga games at home while Bremen have drawn 1 and lost 2 of their last 3 away games in the Bundesliga. Also Hamburg beat them 2-1 at home in a league match so they have the form on the board when it comes to these two teams. Like the look of Jol leading this team to vicotry over their German rivals who are not as string as they used to be

ABhoyoFromScotland · 07-05-2009, 15:12

Hi guys,

Looking for some advice from some of our German friends on the forum...

Can anyone advise me about the liklehood of the Hamburg - Werder Bremen game going over 2.5...?

Personally I would like Werder to win as I have always had a soft spot for them, but given their away form and Hamburgs great home form I dunno if I can see them winning this one....so was looking to the overs market..?

Cheers fellas

Josh Holloway · 07-05-2009, 16:19

Hamburg to qualify : Betandwin 1.4

With the 1:0 win of the the first leg in back, the HSV can await.
Bremen make way for counterattacks, because the must score. With the great attacker in person of Olic, Trochowski, Pitroipa or with Petric after injury the HSV haves a good chance to score against Bremen.
The long years without a chance to win a title, probably the losing of the championship in Germany and the retirement by Werder in the german DFB Cup are further reasons why Hamburg should reach the final today.

Josh Holloway now also in sports-punter.com! In person of:
NDMaster

Good luck today!

torn up slip · 07-05-2009, 16:20

kiev are top of the ukraine league by some way from shakthar and need to win to progress so i cant understand why they are outsiders.

hamburg i expect to win comfortably. very strong at home and made man city look piss poor the other week.

i'll have to have a good luck at the team news and home and away records and head to heads for the ukriane match but i quietly fancy the draw.

deeloughran · 07-05-2009, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by torn up slip

kiev are top of the ukraine league by some way from shakthar and need to win to progress so i cant understand why they are outsiders.

Shakhtar have recorded three wins and a draw with Semin's Dynamo side – the only defeat coming on penalties in a friendly tournament in Israel in January 2008
Shaktar, who have won all three of their home games in the UEFA Cup this term, scoring six times and not leaking a single goal at their RSC Olympiyskiy Stadium

Have backed Shaktar 0 & - 0.5 @ 1.90
Very strong home team, and with Dynamo having to actually attack and not try to just bully Shaktar's south american starlets this could leave space for the more talented Shaktar players to exploit and could see a 2-0 home win here.

ABhoyoFromScotland · 07-05-2009, 16:56

Shakhtar

30 Andriy Pyatov
3 Tomáš Hübschman
7 Fernandinho
8 Jadson
11 Ilsinho
17 Luiz Adriano
19 Olexiy Gai
26 Răzvan Raţ
27 Dmytro Chygrynskiy
32 Mykola Ischenko
33 Darijo Srna

Substitutes

12 Rustam Khudzhamov
4 Igor Duljaj
10 Yevgen Seleznov
18 Mariusz Lewandowski
21 Olexandr Gladkiy
22 Willian
36 Olexandr Chyzhov

Coach

Mircea Lucescu

Dynamo Kyiv

31 Stanislav Bogush
3 Betão
5 Ognjen Vukojević
6 Goran Sabljić
8 Olexandr Aliyev
10 Ismaël Bangoura
11 Roman Eremenko
25 Artem Milevskiy
30 Badr El Kaddouri
36 Miloš Ninković
37 Ayila Yussuf

Substitutes

1 Olexandr Shovkovskiy
4 Tiberiu Ghioane
7 Carlos Corrêa
18 Serhiy Kravchenko
26 Andriy Nesmachniy
49 Roman Zozulya
70 Andriy Yarmolenko

Coach

Yuri Semin

Referee: Olegário Benquerença (POR)

Lets hope for a good match, I am on Shakhtar

Mahno · 07-05-2009, 17:59

GOOOOOOOOAALLL!

Jadson for Shakhtar in 1st half

Good start

grieksen · 07-05-2009, 19:19

2-1 shakhtar! I really needed thatone.

deeloughran · 07-05-2009, 19:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by deeloughran

Shakhtar have recorded three wins and a draw with Semin's Dynamo side – the only defeat coming on penalties in a friendly tournament in Israel in January 2008
Shaktar, who have won all three of their home games in the UEFA Cup this term, scoring six times and not leaking a single goal at their RSC Olympiyskiy Stadium

Have backed Shaktar 0 & - 0.5 @ 1.90
Very strong home team, and with Dynamo having to actually attack and not try to just bully Shaktar's south american starlets this could leave space for the more talented Shaktar players to exploit and could see a 2-0 home win here.

That'll do me!
And that 20/1 on Shaktar to win the Uefa Cup Ante-post e/w is looking better and better

Mahno · 07-05-2009, 19:32

My bets are:

Shakhtar to win 11/10
Shakhtar To Qualify 8/15
Fernandinho anytime scorer 16/5
Jadson anytime scorer 11/4
Shakhtar to score at 1st half - evens
Shakhtar to score 2 or more goals 5/4
over 2.5 6/5

All bets placed with Paddy Power

2-1 FT
6 out of 7 bets won for me

grieksen · 07-05-2009, 19:44

next match:
Bremen to qualify and Diego anytime scorer @ 3 & 4,05

ABhoyoFromScotland · 07-05-2009, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABhoyoFromScotland

Lets hope for a good match, I am on Shakhtar

Happy with that again......

Just stuck a cheeky bet on Werder Bremen to qualify @ 2.50 in running......not bad game so far but yet another top player to miss the final

grieksen · 07-05-2009, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by grieksen

next match:
Bremen to qualify and Diego anytime scorer @ 3 & 4,05

Diego scored, good day today! If Bremen can qualify I win all my bets today but I can't loose money

04-05-2009, 13:53	#2 (permalink)
1907zico God Punter Join Date: 03 May 2008 Age: 20 Posts: 2,048	Re: UEFA Cup » May 07 Oh what happened here? Bookmakers learned their lesson and rate Bremen and Hamburg on almost same level (Bremen higher odds due to away match). NO BET for me this time, too good job by bookmakers (finally) __________________ Business is a matter of professionality and passion. Success is based on fundamental research. Never forget to make the next step http://unique-bets.com/ Last edited by 1907zico; 04-05-2009 at 13:53.

07-05-2009, 08:45	#3 (permalink)
Skunk Junior Punter Join Date: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 64	Re: UEFA Cup » May 07 I'm going to go with Werder to qualify here, I really like the 3,2 odds. and considering that they are only interested in 2 competitions at the moment (Uefa and German Cup) I think they will have a very motivated team today. There is great value in the odd that is why I'm going to go with a small stake on it

07-05-2009, 08:54	#4 (permalink)
Mahno Rave Punter Join Date: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,294	Re: UEFA Cup » May 07 Shakhtar v Dynamo Very hard match to call.Dynamo has nothing to loose now as Shakhtar scored away goal.So i expect Dynamo to play attacking football.Don't think Shakhtar will rush for a goal.Shakhtar's players are more experienced and they know how to get positive result.I think Chygrynskiy will play personaly against Milevskiy,while Bangoura doesn't impress me much anyway.Standarts by Aliev could be dengerous.Luchesku didn't loose to Semin in Ukraine yet.Shakhtar always strong at home and if brazilians will be in a good mood then Dynamo will be in trouble. Team news... Shakhtar: No injured players.Kucher suspended Dynamo: Romanchuk,Diakate,Kravec,Gusev,Mihalik,Shackih are injured and won't play. Teams will probably play with same squads as last time. My bets are: Shakhtar to win 11/10 Shakhtar To Qualify 8/15 Fernandinho anytime scorer 16/5 Jadson anytime scorer 11/4 Shakhtar to score at 1st half - evens Shakhtar to score 2 or more goals 5/4 over 2.5 6/5 All bets placed with Paddy Power GL I may be well wrong,you just never know... __________________ Freedom or Death Last edited by Mahno; 07-05-2009 at 08:59.

07-05-2009, 12:14	#7 (permalink)
kullykhalsa A Shot'n'a'Swing Punter Join Date: 03 Apr 2008 Location: UK- Sheffield/Wolves Posts: 149	Re: UEFA Cup » May 07 got shaktar and hamburg on the double here, shaktar got the away goal at kiev a week or 2 ago, and that will mean kiev have to press when shaktar are allowed space and time they will punish u just ask barcelona :P, fernandinho and jadson are 2 quality players so i cnt see past a 1-0 maybe 2-0 to shaktar. the other game is harder to call but i see hamburg scraping a win here, werder are atrocious away from home and i kno ppl say its different in the uefa cup but seeing as there playing in germany against another german club surely it becomes a normal away game.....hamburg have great home form and an outstanding player in ivica olic, diego is my only worry he can turn a game on its head, ive gone for shaktar and hamburg to win and a seperate bet on diego to score anytime! __________________ IN KULLYKHALSA WE TRUST :D

07-05-2009, 12:57	#8 (permalink)
blackcrow God Punter Join Date: 08 Nov 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,111 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Re: UEFA Cup » May 07 Shaktar Donetsk (2.15 @ centrebet) With the tie poised at 1-1 and Shaktar of the all important away goal, then Kiev are the team that will need to attack in order to win this game. As such this should leave holes in their defence and give Shaktar the opportunity to hit them on the counter attack. They have shown that they are very strong at home have won all of their last 5 games and have not conceded a goal in all competitions, including beating both Marseille and CSKA Moscow 2-0. They face their Ukrainian rival who have not been their best on the road and drew with PSV 0-0 and lost to Metalist 3-2 in their last 2 away games in this competition. They did beat Kiev 1-0 at home back in November in the Ukrainian league so look to them to repeat this to send them into the final. Hamburg (2.50 @ centrebet) Hamburg lead 1-0 after the first leg and with that away goal, they can afford to sit back and wait for Bremen to come at them. They have the likes of Olic up front with his speed to take advantage of swift counter attacks to knock them out, as well as his partner Petric is expected to play. Werder will seek to play a more offensive game from the start, which will play right into the hands of Hamburg, who know this will be the likely way the game is played. They have won 2 and drawn 1 of their last 3 Bundesliga games at home while Bremen have drawn 1 and lost 2 of their last 3 away games in the Bundesliga. Also Hamburg beat them 2-1 at home in a league match so they have the form on the board when it comes to these two teams. Like the look of Jol leading this team to vicotry over their German rivals who are not as string as they used to be

07-05-2009, 15:12	#9 (permalink)
ABhoyoFromScotland Banned Join Date: 08 Apr 2009 Posts: 316	Re: UEFA Cup » May 07 Hi guys, Looking for some advice from some of our German friends on the forum... Can anyone advise me about the liklehood of the Hamburg - Werder Bremen game going over 2.5...? Personally I would like Werder to win as I have always had a soft spot for them, but given their away form and Hamburgs great home form I dunno if I can see them winning this one....so was looking to the overs market..? Cheers fellas

07-05-2009, 16:19	#10 (permalink)
Josh Holloway Newbie Punter Join Date: 29 Oct 2006 Location: Elze, Hannover, Germany Posts: 15	Re: UEFA Cup » May 07 Hamburg to qualify : Betandwin 1.4 With the 1:0 win of the the first leg in back, the HSV can await. Bremen make way for counterattacks, because the must score. With the great attacker in person of Olic, Trochowski, Pitroipa or with Petric after injury the HSV haves a good chance to score against Bremen. The long years without a chance to win a title, probably the losing of the championship in Germany and the retirement by Werder in the german DFB Cup are further reasons why Hamburg should reach the final today. Josh Holloway now also in sports-punter.com! In person of: NDMaster Good luck today!

07-05-2009, 16:20	#11 (permalink)
torn up slip Newbie Punter Join Date: 14 Apr 2009 Location: Doncaster Posts: 36	Re: UEFA Cup » May 07 kiev are top of the ukraine league by some way from shakthar and need to win to progress so i cant understand why they are outsiders. hamburg i expect to win comfortably. very strong at home and made man city look piss poor the other week. i'll have to have a good luck at the team news and home and away records and head to heads for the ukriane match but i quietly fancy the draw.

07-05-2009, 16:56	#13 (permalink)
ABhoyoFromScotland Banned Join Date: 08 Apr 2009 Posts: 316	Re: UEFA Cup » May 07 Shakhtar 30 Andriy Pyatov 3 Tomáš Hübschman 7 Fernandinho 8 Jadson 11 Ilsinho 17 Luiz Adriano 19 Olexiy Gai 26 Răzvan Raţ 27 Dmytro Chygrynskiy 32 Mykola Ischenko 33 Darijo Srna Substitutes 12 Rustam Khudzhamov 4 Igor Duljaj 10 Yevgen Seleznov 18 Mariusz Lewandowski 21 Olexandr Gladkiy 22 Willian 36 Olexandr Chyzhov Coach Mircea Lucescu Dynamo Kyiv 31 Stanislav Bogush 3 Betão 5 Ognjen Vukojević 6 Goran Sabljić 8 Olexandr Aliyev 10 Ismaël Bangoura 11 Roman Eremenko 25 Artem Milevskiy 30 Badr El Kaddouri 36 Miloš Ninković 37 Ayila Yussuf Substitutes 1 Olexandr Shovkovskiy 4 Tiberiu Ghioane 7 Carlos Corrêa 18 Serhiy Kravchenko 26 Andriy Nesmachniy 49 Roman Zozulya 70 Andriy Yarmolenko Coach Yuri Semin Referee Olegário Benquerença (POR) Lets hope for a good match, I am on Shakhtar

07-05-2009, 17:59	#14 (permalink)
Mahno Rave Punter Join Date: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,294	Re: UEFA Cup » May 07 GOOOOOOOOAALLL! Jadson for Shakhtar in 1st half Good start __________________ Freedom or Death

07-05-2009, 19:19	#15 (permalink)
grieksen Dedicated Punter Join Date: 28 Feb 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 222	Re: UEFA Cup » May 07 2-1 shakhtar! I really needed thatone.

07-05-2009, 19:32	#17 (permalink)
Mahno Rave Punter Join Date: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,294	Re: UEFA Cup » May 07 My bets are: Shakhtar to win 11/10 Shakhtar To Qualify 8/15 Fernandinho anytime scorer 16/5 Jadson anytime scorer 11/4 Shakhtar to score at 1st half - evens Shakhtar to score 2 or more goals 5/4 over 2.5 6/5 All bets placed with Paddy Power 2-1 FT 6 out of 7 bets won for me __________________ Freedom or Death

07-05-2009, 19:44	#18 (permalink)
grieksen Dedicated Punter Join Date: 28 Feb 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 222	Re: UEFA Cup » May 07 next match: Bremen to qualify and Diego anytime scorer @ 3 & 4,05

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