UEFA Cup - 3,4 December 2008

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Wednesday 3 December 2008	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Spartak Moscow v NEC (17:00GMT)	1.59	4.10	7.20	101.17 %		Details »
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Udinese v Dinamo Zagreb (17:00GMT)	1.55	4.33	7.80	100.41 %		Details »
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Hertha Berlin v Galatasaray (19:45GMT)	1.96	3.65	4.40	101.14 %		Details »
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Manchester City v PSG (19:45GMT)	1.90	3.65	5.00	100.03 %		Details »
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Metalist Kharkiv v Olympiakos (19:45GMT)	2.50	3.35	3.15	101.60 %		Details »
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Sevilla v Partizan Belgrade (19:45GMT)	1.25	6.60	18.00	100.71 %		Details »
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Standard Liège v Sampdoria (19:45GMT)	2.40	3.25	3.55	100.60 %		Details »
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Twente v Schalke 04 (19:45GMT)	3.05	3.40	2.60	100.66 %		Details »
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Thursday 4 December 2008	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Aston Villa v Žilina (19:45GMT)	1.32	5.80	14.00	100.14 %		Details »
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FCK v Rosenborg (19:45GMT)	1.75	3.95	5.50	100.64 %		Details »
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Heerenveen v Braga (19:45GMT)	2.30	3.50	3.45	101.04 %		Details »
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Lech Poznan v Deportivo (19:45GMT)	3.40	3.40	2.40	100.49 %		Details »
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Nancy v CSKA Moscow (19:45GMT)	1.96	3.75	4.30	100.94 %		Details »
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Slavia Praha v Hamburger SV (19:45GMT)	2.92	3.40	2.64	101.54 %		Details »
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Valencia v Club Brugge (19:45GMT)	1.49	4.50	9.50	99.86 %		Details »
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Wolfsburg v Portsmouth (19:45GMT)	2.08	3.60	4.00	100.85 %		Details »

[deeloughran]

Hertha Berlin, Standard Liege and Wolfsburg all stand out at first viewing.
All have absolutely fantastic home records against some of the poorest travellers. Galatasary having a 1-2-3 away record in their own league against Hertha (5-2-1 at home)
Standard are 5-0-1 at home in their league against Sampdoria (0-1-5 away from home). Standard Liege are absolutely fantastic in this competition nearly knocking out Liverpool then beating Everton at home and should have beaten them away from home.
Wolfsburg have had a terrific start (at home) in their league with a 6-1-0 home record whilst Portsmouth have shown that they are not the same team away from home (beat by two average Portugeese teams).

Think the standout bet for me could be Standard Liege but will look at it more tomorrow.

[Calsa]

CSKA look too big a price considering the players they have and the record they have in this competition of late. Okay, they may have qualified already, but there season is finished so they have no need to rest players and would like to avoid a CL side in the next stage by finishing first.

I watched Nancy against Motherwell and although far superior to them, they dont look to have many options upfront and there defence can certainly be got at. Vagner Love is as good as any striker in the UEFA Cup and could be playing for a big move in the January transfer window.

You may want to cover yourself with DNB but I just feel the odds are too big for a CSKA win.

Agree with Standard Liege, they've looked extremely impressive the 4 times I've watch them this season.

[ChrisUK]

was looking at

Twente v Schalke 04

Schalke been really poor in UEFA..winning against PSG and loosing to man city. Twente are on good form in league and uefa.

abit suprised at CSKA one aswell..odds for them at home are much lower because of russian weather and home ASTRO TURF PITCH but still CSKA got some good players maybe overs might be better because NANCY need to win really but CSKA already qualified.

anyone else got any views on other games?

[El NihiL]

Originally Posted by deeloughran

Hertha Berlin, Standard Liege and Wolfsburg all stand out at first viewing.
All have absolutely fantastic home records against some of the poorest travellers. Galatasary having a 1-2-3 away record in their own league against Hertha (5-2-1 at home)

just a reminder..ıt won't be a typical home match for Hertha side, cos' Germany is a country with many Turkish people working, and sure that they'll rush to the game to support Galatasaray; So I'm sure many will support Galatasaray no matter in which side they watch the match..

[zalozite]

H Berlin v Galatasaray - 1 /Betfair - 1.92/

Herta must win for the home side. Team have been solid enough at the olympic stadion and may well have the beating of Galata who already have done just about enough to get through. Herta beat Hamburger, Hofenhaim and Stutgart at home. Galatasaray are not very stable away .

I think Herta will win !!!

[Elensar77]

This game wont away.
Because 40.000 Turkish people will be at Olympic Stadium.

[ultrainferno]

We play besides Wilfried Dalmat (right winger) with our best squad.
Unlike Sampdoria, here at Liege everybody looks forward to this game to secure qualification. More important, if we win we have a really big chance to become group winners. Also a dozen of scouts will attend the game, so every player will be again very concentrated like previous games.

I think that taken into consideration that Samp doesn't start with starting eleven 1x@1.35 and 1 should be tried. Under 2.5 is also a good option I think as Italian teams their defence is always hard to break.

[Bartys]

In my opinion is Sevilla big favourite. They are in good form now so I expekt good performance.

ManCity - PSG - Odds looks like atractive. 1.86 is still good value but I think that it would be lower later...

[dogmeister]

Originally Posted by ultrainferno

We play besides Wilfried Dalmat (right winger) with our best squad.
Unlike Sampdoria, here at Liege everybody looks forward to this game to secure qualification. More important, if we win we have a really big chance to become group winners. Also a dozen of scouts will attend the game, so every player will be again very concentrated like previous games.

I think that taken into consideration that Samp doesn't start with starting eleven 1x@1.35 and 1 should be tried. Under 2.5 is also a good option I think as Italian teams their defence is always hard to break.

I like standard Liege but alot couple of points to consider

Liege only need a point to qualify if they do need one. Only been one record of a team not qualifying with 6 points in the history of Uefa Groups.

Sampdoria have the Genova derby at the weekend, its the biggest game in their annual diary. They will rest top stars.

They have a home game to finish where if they secure a point here, a point there will probably be enough aswell.

History shows that italian teams playing away who are happy with a point usually get and settle for a point.

So you have a a strong home team who only technically need a point agains a an Italian team who will settle for a point.

I think the value here is on the draw with small stakes on 0-0.

[1907zico]

Originally Posted by dogmeister

I like standard Liege but alot couple of points to consider

Liege only need a point to qualify if they do need one. Only been one record of a team not qualifying with 6 points in the history of Uefa Groups.

Sampdoria have the Genova derby at the weekend, its the biggest game in their annual diary. They will rest top stars.

They have a home game to finish where if they secure a point here, a point there will probably be enough aswell.

History shows that italian teams playing away who are happy with a point usually get and settle for a point.

So you have a a strong home team who only technically need a point agains a an Italian team who will settle for a point.

I think the value here is on the draw with small stakes on 0-0.

Welcome Dogmeister cheers!

[Karel]

Very strong on Hertha Berlin tonight. Turkish sides don't travel and Galatasary have major injury problems according to this piece previewing the game http://soccernet.espn.go.com/preview?id=256522&&cc=5739

I got the 11/10 that was snapped up yesterday and anything around evens is a very good price.

[nicko]

Originally Posted by zalozite

H Berlin v Galatasaray - 1 /Betfair - 1.92/

Herta must win for the home side. Team have been solid enough at the olympic stadion and may well have the beating of Galata who already have done just about enough to get through. Herta beat Hamburger, Hofenhaim and Stutgart at home. Galatasaray are not very stable away .

I think Herta will win !!!

Careful though with the stake, as I thought Benfica will see them off too...

[blackcrow]

Spartak Moscow - NEC Nijmegen under 2.5
Saprtak have been disappointing in this competition at home where they have a draw and a loss with 3 of their four games going under. NEC are not much better with also a draw and loss from their two away games and they too have gone under in 3 of their 4 games in this competition. NEC ae pretty mcuh out of the running in this cup and with several players missing, they will be likely to not care about this game, however, Spartak also have several players out, and coupled with their poor home form, then this game could be a close but boring game given that both teams will be disorganised and lacking creativity.

Udinese - Dinamo Zagreb under 2.5
Udinese have suffered five consecutive defeats in Serie A and Sunday's 1-0 loss to Chievo saw them drop to ninth in the standings. They are playing without confidence and are struggling to find the right form. Normally this would be a comfortable victory for them but given their present situation and Dinamo's good win on the weekend, this may be closer than expected. With several players also out, Udinese will be happy to take at least a point from this, so expect another close game

Man City - Paris St Germain over 2.5
Man City sit on top of their group and only need a point to progress however they will have a few players out while PSG are at the bottom and now that nothing but victory will give them any chance of progressing to the next round.
Man City have scored at least two goals in their last 4 UEFA Cup games including the last two at home as 3 of these last 4 games have gone over while PSG have gone over in 3 of their last 4 UEFA Cup games including their last two games on the road.
Could be some goals in this game given both teams penchant for attacking football

Hertha Berlin - Galatasaray under 2.5
Hertha have gone under in each of their 5 UEFA Cup games as their defence is quite strong having only conceded once but scored 4 goals in those games. They need a win here at home while Galatasaray will be happy with a point as they have gone under in their last 3 UEFA Cup games, scoring 3 and only conceding 1 goal. The defences of these two sides should keep things tight and even if one team scored, thier defence has shown that they can withhold the scoring opportunities of other teams.

[Elensar77]

Originally Posted by Karel

Very strong on Hertha Berlin tonight. Turkish sides don't travel and Galatasary have major injury problems according to this piece previewing the game http://soccernet.espn.go.com/preview?id=256522&&cc=5739

I got the 11/10 that was snapped up yesterday and anything around evens is a very good price.

Nicu,Varonin and Cicero wont play this game for Hertha
Ayhan missed for Gala but he is not important so much,because our injury Mehmet Topal and Barış özbek now good and they will play firth 11.

Possible 11:
De Sanctis - Sabri - H.Balta(Volkan) - Meira - Servet - Arda - Lincoln - Kewell - Baros

We dont have missed and 40.000 fans will be have.

1-1 or 2-1 Gala is good ı think.

[dak]

Metalist - Olympiakos: Under 2.5 goals @ 1.66 (Betfred) 10/10

I think both teams will be play with caution since a loss may essentially kill their chances for qualification. The weather in the Ukraine should also contribute to a tight low scoring game. The draw is, I think, the most likely outcome, but Olympiakos is a better quality side and could get a 0-1 or 0-2 win. The under 2.5 is a safer bet I think.

[Spooner]

Twente v Schalke

Looks quite big odds for the home side here, I would of priced them up as slightly favourites for the match. Twente beat Racing Santander at home and was beating at City but only by 1 goal, 3-2 final score. Schalke beat PSG in the first game but they are bottom of the group, I watched parts of the game when they played City last match and they looked quite poor to be honest. In the domestic leagues Schalke are 9th and Twente are 4th in the Dutch league and going strong. Schalke are only 1 point ahead in the group and I fancy Twente to nick this at what looks a good price.

@ 3.10 Betfair

[zerocool]

Originally Posted by dak

Metalist - Olympiakos: Under 2.5 goals @ 1.66 (Betfred) 10/10

I think both teams will be play with caution since a loss may essentially kill their chances for qualification. The weather in the Ukraine should also contribute to a tight low scoring game. The draw is, I think, the most likely outcome, but Olympiakos is a better quality side and could get a 0-1 or 0-2 win. The under 2.5 is a safer bet I think.

I agree with you 100%. The way I see this game played after reading the remarks of the coaches is a strategic game with emphasis on the center, a physical game with very few goal scoring chances... Half time I believe it will be 0-0 and I can see that being the final score as well unless a team can produce a goal (Olympiacos more likely to score in my opinion)..

So under 2.5 (1.72 with Betfair) or even under 1.5 for the risky pundits out there are very good options)

Zero Cool

[nicko]

Man City and PSG should be able to produce goals. City are through and relaxed re next stage of UEFA, and the least thing the French want to see is a relaxed English team at home, in attacking mood. On the other hand saw the full Schalke - PSG game only days before a big French derby, with many regulars rested. Must admit the French looked dangerous and very unlucky, especially in the second half...
I don't think PSG are bothered much about this game and UEFA Cup itself, full squad or reserves, they have no reason to hide, therefore the Over looks good, so far both their games here were with 3+ goals. If I am wrong - even better - Twente and Schalke will fight hard tonight, Santander are rested, a vague chance for 3 points here and a home game in the end at home is looking better...

[Spooner]

Originally Posted by Spooner

Twente v Schalke

Looks quite big odds for the home side here, I would of priced them up as slightly favourites for the match. Twente beat Racing Santander at home and was beating at City but only by 1 goal, 3-2 final score. Schalke beat PSG in the first game but they are bottom of the group, I watched parts of the game when they played City last match and they looked quite poor to be honest. In the domestic leagues Schalke are 9th and Twente are 4th in the Dutch league and going strong. Schalke are only 1 point ahead in the group and I fancy Twente to nick this at what looks a good price.

@ 3.10 Betfair