Man U v Barcelona 2nd leg (0-0) 29 April

[SeanMac]

Originally Posted by Calsa

Barca to qualify 5/4

Messi, Xavi and Yaya will love the open spaces of OT tonight IMO. Messi gave Evra (who himself is a world class LB) water in the brain last week in the Nou Camp and he'll be even sharper tonight.

United looked very nervous after the missed pen last week, Scholes was really the only one who kept the ball for any length of time and despite being at home tonight, I think they'll be equally as nervous after their late defeat on Saturday.

The onus is on United to attack and that will play into the hands of a side who are technically superior if not a little lightweight at the back. For that reason the overs look a good bet as well but I see Barca qualifying and I wouldnt be surprised if it's a high scoring draw like 2-2.

You say that Messi , Xavi and Yaya will love the open spaces of OT tonight but they never scored in the nou camp last week even though that pitch is 115 yards long and 74 yards wide which is
116 yards long and 76 yards wide , i dont see this as being a major factor tonight , a couple of yards isnt going to make that much of a difference IMO Also its not as if Man utd cant pass a ball lol

[Student Grant]

A lot of people seem to be writing of Barca too easily here for me. In their front line of Messi, Eto'o and Henry, they have an attack where any of them would walk into the Utd team.

Could be a cagey affair, however, an early goal either way will open this up. If Barca score first, Utd will need 2 to win. If Utd score first, one goal from Barca will win it for them so Utd will need a second.

Based on that I'm going small stakes on the over 2.5 and lets hope for an entertaining the line up promises!

GL all

[Pmacca]

Originally Posted by dj purry

well , u all think i,m crazy but, here is the way things goes: if u can remember the final between brazil vs arg ( south - america cup last year) the whole betting world but 99% on arg. the coach of arg. never move 1 inch from his chair at that game . ( u know why ???) is all about the money. now we have the same thing with man utd vs barca. every body is on man utd.by the end of the game 2 day , the money goes 2 barca. that,s the way it works( hope that i,m wrong)

I certainly think that this goes on in football around the world. In a game like this though, I doubt it.

[clarky101]

I've gone for a buy on the spreads on the bookings at 49 on the hope that the last 30 mins will be fraught with tension and someone will lose thier head..... & Scholes should guarantee at least one booking with his tackling

[clarky101]

and the ref has sent Scholes & Keane off in previous games in the past four years so he's not afraid to dish out the cards....

[Student Grant]

No Rooney or Vidic:

Man Utd: Van der Sar, Evra, Hargreaves, Ferdinand, Brown, Ronaldo, Park, Carrick, Nani, Scholes, Tevez. Subs: Kuszczak, Anderson, Giggs, O'Shea, Fletcher, Silvestre, Welbeck.
Barcelona: Valdes, Milito, Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, Eto'o, Zambrotta, Messi, Deco, Abidal, Toure. Subs: Pinto, Gudjohnsen, Henry, Edmilson, Sylvinho, Thuram, Bojan.

(From the BBC website)

[malcolmas]

Originally Posted by clarky101

and the ref has sent Scholes & Keane off in previous games in the past four years so he's not afraid to dish out the cards....

Games refereed by Herbert Fandel in 2007/2008					Yellows	Reds
European Championships	Finland	0 - 0	Poland	12-09-2007	3	0
European Cup	Sporting Lisbon	0 - 1	Man Utd	19-09-2007	3	0
European Cup	Steaua	0 - 2	Seville	07-11-2007	4	0
European Cup	Benfica	1 - 1	Milan	28-11-2007	4	0
European Cup	Roma	2 - 1	Real Madrid	19-02-2008	6	0
European Cup	Chelsea	2 - 0	Fenerbahce	08-04-2008	2	0
Games: 6 Yellow Cards: 22 Red Cards: 0

soccerbase.com

I think the ref has had a talking too recently as his red cards seemed to have dried up. Yellow cards are inconsistent but the average for above is 3.6

[allthethings]

Originally Posted by malcolmas

soccerbase.com

I think the ref has had a talking too recently as his red cards seemed to have dried up. Yellow cards are inconsistent but the average for above is 3.6

But then he hasn't had the opportunity to be on the same field as Rooney during that time.

[SeanMac]

ive gone for Ronaldo 1st goalscorer and Man Utd to win 2-1 at odds of 25/1 i felt it was worth a punt but only put £1 on it

[Sir Fernando]

Barca +0.5, looks value, expect them to control the game in midfield and create enough to score at least once.

[DJ]

2+ goals @ 11/10 with WillHill

Barca come to Old Trafford knowing that scoring once may be enough to see them through, if they can keep the game tight in defence and concede at most once themselves. If Barca score the first though and try to shut up shop then it's offering Mancheser United the chance to throw everything at their defence, which is arguably the weakest part of their team. Barcelona are known for their attacking players in Messi, Eto'o, Henry etc, not their defenders. Manchester United are missing Rooney but Tevez, Park and Ronaldo all have the ability to cause nuisance.

I can see Manchester United scoring first, Barca equalising so trying to defend but caught out to a 2nd goal, Barca push forward and concede a 3rd and the game is all over.

[bettingstar]

Man Utd v Barcelona, (agg 0-0), SF, L2, 19:45
The 0-0 stalemate at the Nou Camp can be extremely deceptive: Rijkaard will be delighted his team did not concede the all important away goal. Ferguson on the other hand will be content with his position given a disappointing all round display by his side.
United have a perfect home record in this competition, winning 11 on the trot. Barcelona away form has been just as impressive currently undefeated and more importantly in the context of this game have scored in all but one of this seasons Champions League away fixtures.
Fergusons record when united have failed to score in the away leg is poor. They were invariably knocked out by Galatasary (93/94), Dortmund (96/97), Monaco (99/00), Real Madrid (00/01), Bayern Munich (06/07) and AC Milan (06/07). There certainly is a pattern appearing here.
Prior to the first leg at the Nou Camp, I recommended a back of Barcelona to qualify @ 13/8. United will be sure to pay the price of failing to score a away goal, they will not be able to employ the same defensive tactics as the first leg – allowing more space for Messi, Deco, Eto’o et al. This coupled with the injury doubts over Rooney and Vidic in particular and Fergusons poor semi-final record:

Barcelona to Qualify @ 5/4 represents tremendous value.



http://bettingstar.blogspot.com/

[Jonesy Knows]

Difficult tie here now Vidic and Rooney are not playing!
It will give Barcelona a bit more confidence knowing the defensive lynchpin and the talent of Rooney won't be against them.
I am leaning towards a nervy opening half which will see 2 teams scared to venture too far forward in case of being counter attacked and conceding a goal!
My certainty for this game is draw at half-time! 10/11 Paddypower.

The value bet I'm going to go for mainly because of what is up for grabs here a final place in The Champions League in Moscow:

Man Utd to win on penalties 25/1 Paddypower

Barcelona to win on penalties 25/1 Paddypower



P.S. I hope Man Utd win it as it would be brilliant to have 2 premiership teams contesting the final and the hope that all fans who turn up at Moscow have a party atmosphere and enjoy the occassion and not what most people fear of running battles and shaming the English game!

[malcolmas]

ManU v Barca
A sub to score in 90 mins play PP 11 - 4
Potential bench scorers
Barca - Gudjohnsen, Henry, Bojan
ManU - Giggs, O'Shea, Fletcher

If tactics are cagey, I can see subs being a factor near the end of this match.

[iluvsportsbetting]

Originally Posted by iluvsportsbetting

tough tough game to call, could really go either way, I believe more than ever that the first goal will be the key. as its so tight i'm going to take a chance on barca, odds are overpriced imo. I'm also going to LAY Ronaldo to score at anytime, he very rarely shows up in the big matches and i'm hoping that will be the case tonight!

Selections 3 pts Barca

3 pts lay Ronaldo to score at anytime

[AJ]

Quote:

So you lost on Barca, but won on the lay of the Ronaldo. At best that's breakeven, in practice you've lost money tonight because you'll pay comission on the winning lay.

Not a big loss to be sure, but a loss.

And that justifies a dancing Banna why ??

[Darren]

Originally Posted by AJ

So you lost on Barca, but won on the lay of the Ronaldo. At best that's breakeven, in practice you've lost money tonight because you'll pay comission on the winning lay.

Not a big loss to be sure, but a loss.

And that justifies a dancing Banna why ??

I was wondering the same thing

I dindn't do a bet, I broke even

[JCtips]

Originally Posted by JCtips

My bets for tomorrow's game:

Manchester United-Barcelona
A lot could be said about this game and both teams but I'll keep it short and simple.
MU has 11 straight wins in their last 11 homes games in the Champions League and "home boy" Cristiano Ronaldo will be looking at taking his team to win the CL this season in order to finally get the "Best Player of the World" award that he deserves. After missig a penalty in the Barcelona game, he'll be looking at making a positive contribution tomorrow and I see him as very likley to also score.
My bets: home win and Cristiano Ronaldo to score anytime. won&lost

Good luck!

JC

Had a very small profit but still better than having a very small loss ...

JC

[JCtips]

Originally Posted by dj purry

well , u all think i,m crazy but, here is the way things goes: if u can remember the final between brazil vs arg ( south - america cup last year) the whole betting world but 99% on arg. the coach of arg. never move 1 inch from his chair at that game . ( u know why ???) is all about the money. now we have the same thing with man utd vs barca. every body is on man utd.by the end of the game 2 day , the money goes 2 barca. that,s the way it works( hope that i,m wrong)

Hi dj purry.

What happened was that Argentina had an awsome tournament until the final playing good football and getting good results while Brazil was inconsistent during the tournament and had some horrible games when we consider their reputation.
So, when it came to the final everybody and their mother was betting on Argentina as if they knew the score before the game started...
I still remember that I couldn't believe the odd I got for Brazil +0.5 AH at 2.10...I'm glad I took it and won that bet...

For tonight's game MU had to be favorites as they won their last 11 home games in the CL and Barcelona has great talent but not a team and their away record is far from impressive. I also thought the odd on MU to win was a nice one in terms of value (I got it at 2.02) .



JC

[Sir Fernando]

Barca too fiddly round the box looking for the perfect goal everytime, they should have had more shots on goal to show for their domination, Henry didn't even look half the player he was at Arsenal when he came on.