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Old 09-04-2007, 18:42   #1 (permalink)
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Tuesday 10 April 2007
HomeDrawAwayBPP
Man Utd v Roma (19:45 BST)1.723.606.30102%
Valencia v Chelsea (19:45 BST)2.953.202.75102%
Wednesday 11 April 2007
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Bayern München v AC Milan (19:45 BST)2.373.253.60101%
Liverpool v PSV (19:45 BST)1.564.008.00102%

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Old 09-04-2007, 20:42   #2 (permalink)
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For Tuesday's games
Roma +0.5 @2.17. Roma are in control of this tie with their 2-1 win at the Olimpico. ManU will press alot more than they did in Rome. Roma will go with the same gameplan they had @Lyon, using counterattacks. I expect Roma to find that away goal probably through some Mancini or Totti creativity and hold on for a trip to the semis.
Valencia/Chelsea Draw @3.10. Valencia did exactly what they had to @Stamford Bridge to grab the away goal. I expect a similar game to the 2nd leg vs Inter. Wouldn't it be amazing to see Valencia in the semis with 4 straight draws, although this one may go to extra time.
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Old 09-04-2007, 20:53   #3 (permalink)
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AC Milan @3.10. Milan need the result to have any chance as I don't see this game being another 2-2 draw. Despite playing on the orad Milan will be patient looking for the 1-0 win. In last weeks game Milan dominated for much of the game and really could have been 2 or 3 nil up by the time Bayern found their way back into the game. A similar performance should see Milan through.
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Old 09-04-2007, 21:59   #4 (permalink)
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Manchester United:

Van der Sar;
O'Shea,
Ferdinand,
Brown,
Heinze

Cristiano Ronaldo,
Michael Carrick,
Darren Fletcher,
Ryan Giggs;

Rooney
Solskjaer.

Man Utd. are missing defensive duo Gary Neville and Evra. Scholes will miss also miss the game after his red card in Rome while the loss of Vidic in central defence is another big loss. Rooney, despite his goal in the first leg, hasn't scored at home in Europe since 2004 while Ch.Ronaldo has failed to net in 27 European ties. Add in the loss of Saha to injury and suddenly we're in the unusual situation of wondering where United's goals will come from? What's more Roma have conceded just four goals in the Champions League this season - no team can better that defensive record. We all saw Man Utd being kind of tootless beast against Portsmouth (1-2) this weekend. I am not impressed by the lines-up for the game Vs AS Roma and my bet will be: AS ROMA (+0.50/+1.00) @1.97
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Old 09-04-2007, 22:10   #5 (permalink)
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Have to go against the grain here and tip Utd to make the semis. People talk of Rooney and Ronaldo not on form in Europe. Thats kack. Rooney took his goal incredible well in Rome. Ronaldo terrified the Roma defense and will continue to do so tomorrow nite.

I have a feeling Evra may play tomorrow. I feel Utd will really go for Roma early on and try to get the crowd really behind them. I believe Utd will lead at half time 1-0. This will result in Roma coming to look for the away goal.

Do not underestimate the loss of Perrota for Roma. Defensive lynchpin who sits in front of the back four.

Cannot see Roma winning at Old Trafford tomorrow nite, so will lay Roma on Betfair. Also backed Utd to Qualify and lead at half time.
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:30   #6 (permalink)
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Have to go against the grain here and tip Utd to make the semis. People talk of Rooney and Ronaldo not on form in Europe. Thats kack. Rooney took his goal incredible well in Rome. Ronaldo terrified the Roma defense and will continue to do so tomorrow nite.

I have a feeling Evra may play tomorrow. I feel Utd will really go for Roma early on and try to get the crowd really behind them. I believe Utd will lead at half time 1-0. This will result in Roma coming to look for the away goal.

Do not underestimate the loss of Perrota for Roma. Defensive lynchpin who sits in front of the back four.

Cannot see Roma winning at Old Trafford tomorrow nite, so will lay Roma on Betfair. Also backed Utd to Qualify and lead at half time.
Agree with you here.

Moreover, I just read info on soccernet that Totti might miss out and this is a huge blow if he did miss out. So now possibly Perrota + Totti missing and that wouldn't do Roma any good.
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10u on Bayern/AC over 2.0 goals @ 1.75 (Back to hell) edit: This price is @ iasbet i think Canbet will offer same


Ok so mayb i exagerated a little bit but noone can deny that this would have to be the best bet of this leg.... while 2 goals only refunds the bet i just cannot see the game ending under a 1-1 draw.... perhaps these odds are based on bayern playing down to take advantage of their 2 away goals however unless they are braindead they will not be doing this. In simple words to qualify Bayern MUST score. For the cautious punter or for those who lost similar amounts betting over 2.5 goals on the recent Tottenham/Reading game you may want to take insurance betting on AC 1-0 or something i will probably go with -0/-0.5 on bayern @ 2.05 however i havent looked at the game enough but 31 of Bayerns fixtures this year have ended over 2.0 as well as all of Bayerns CL games over the past 2 years have ended with 2 goals or more (except for both Sporting Lisbon games this year). However im ranting i know but i do in all honesty believe this is an extreemely solid bet infact........10/10.......
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10u on Bayern/AC over 2.0 goals @ 1.75 (Back to hell) edit: This price is @ iasbet i think Canbet will offer same


Ok so mayb i exagerated a little bit but noone can deny that this would have to be the best bet of this leg.... while 2 goals only refunds the bet i just cannot see the game ending under a 1-1 draw.... perhaps these odds are based on bayern playing down to take advantage of their 2 away goals however unless they are braindead they will not be doing this. In simple words to qualify Bayern MUST score. For the cautious punter or for those who lost similar amounts betting over 2.5 goals on the recent Tottenham/Reading game you may want to take insurance betting on AC 1-0 or something i will probably go with -0/-0.5 on bayern @ 2.05 however i havent looked at the game enough but 31 of Bayerns fixtures this year have ended over 2.0 as well as all of Bayerns CL games over the past 2 years have ended with 2 goals or more (except for both Sporting Lisbon games this year). However im ranting i know but i do in all honesty believe this is an extreemely solid bet infact........10/10.......
Well I don't agree with you. Maybe this will happen, but it's sure not the bet of the year. The same thing I read yesterday and I loose lot of money (Charlton). I have watched first game and both teams play not such good football. The last win in Bundesliga against Hannover was tight. I know its not the same competition, but for me not sure bet over 2.5. So I see this game like 0-0 or 1-1.

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Why is the price so huge for Chelsea? 2.78 at betfair? I don't think Valencia has enough quality to stop Chelsea.
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Why is the price so huge for Chelsea? 2.78 at betfair? I don't think Valencia has enough quality to stop Chelsea.
Mate I think Chelsea is not better team than Valencia. Valencia play fast football, the ball is always in moving. And this is great chance for semi-finals. I don't think they will miss this season.

On the other hand nobody expect that Chelsea will lose. Well maybe not, but if this match ends with 0:0 draw...

Anyway good luck to all.
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Well I don't agree with you. Maybe this will happen, but it's sure not the bet of the year. The same thing I read yesterday and I loose lot of money (Charlton). I have watched first game and both teams play not such good football. The last win in Bundesliga against Hannover was tight. I know its not the same competition, but for me not sure bet over 2.5. So I see this game like 0-0 or 1-1.

Well allow me to retort....

I was exagerating greatly.... and in no way is it the bet of the year however i would like to point out a few things that i failed to mention earlier in my haste....

Some say that they thing thats produces results in footbal is motivation... if a team comes in to a game with no reason to win (in this case score) then it is fair to say that team is more unlikely to win than if motivated to win. In this case i see a situation where both of these teams NEED to win and therefore score goals: That is that AC as much as i dont like to admit it is a powerhouse... they have great players and a attack force that is nothing to take lightly, Hitzfeld and Bayern players will know this, they will also know almost as well that even putting every man behind the ball is unlikely to stop AC from putting one in the back of the net, and hence they will play accordingly and feel that they MUST score to qualify.... On the opposite side of the fence simply put AC MUST score for obvious reasons. So with this combined motivation i guess whats left to answer for is do these two teams have the ability to score?????

My answer is a confident YES.... now i know primarily you are doubting Bayerns ability (Not something that should be done often or it will hurt you as it did to many people in the last round). With Van Bommel and Pizarro comming back in for them the creativity that has been lacking in recent time is likely to come flowing back add to this the option of podolski and we're talking pressure for AC defence that im not at all confident that they can handle for the whole 90min.... Also Hargreaves, schweinsteiger and Makaay will draw on bommel and pizarro for a much needed confidence boost.... On the oppsite side of AC even tho both gilardino (booking) and Inzaghi (Injury) are out with an all class midfield AC shouldnt have to much trouble putting pressure on an at times questionable Bayern defence.

As im sure many people have pointed out and found out in the past through loss that football is a crazy game and crazy things happen at times its just mind numbing how difficult it is to predict even the simpilist events. The way i see this game going it will come down to the first half... a goal from either side will spark the other into life, while it may be a somewhat conservative game in the first 20 (I say somewhat because i believe that bayern will be eager to put one in to seal qualification) after this time arives these teams will realise this is a 2nd leg CL final that must be won, the alternative... elimination, an option neither of these teams wants to face and while the bet is not certain im not suggesting it is but hey odds of 1.75 are far from needing to be certain..... Am i right.... or Am i right???



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ManU - Roma
ManU Clean Sheet? - No
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ManU miss some defensive players. They need to score and will go forward from the first minute. That will open them for Roma counters. I found good value in Roma to score.

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Manchester United continued their indifferent away form in the Champions League when they left Roma’s, Stadio Olimpico on the end of a 2-1 defeat, In the circumstance, that wasn’t a terrible result.

The Red Devils had to contend with a hostile atmosphere and the handicap of playing the final 50 minutes with just 10 men after Paul Scholes saw red. He will now miss the return leg at Old Trafford, where an unconvincing makeshift defence, featuring John O’Shea and Wes Brown, cannot afford any more slip-ups.
One of the real positives for Sir Alex to take out of the game was Wayne Rooney’s first goal in the competition since his debut in 2004. Having got that monkey off his back, Rooney could be the man to provide such magic at the Theatre of Dreams on Wednesday night.

Roma coach, Luciano Spalletti, may rightly feel that his side didn’t take full advantage of their numerical superiorit. Rooney’s goal was the real dampener on an evening where Roma had things their way, but the problem for Spalletti is that is unlikely to be the case at Old Trafford. The Giallorossi can take confidence from their excellent 2-0 win away to Lyon in the previous round, where their counter-attacking tactic - epitomised by a unique formation that utilises no out-an-out strikers – worked like clockwork.
However, United are one of the most attacking teams in front of their own fans, and it will take a gladiatorial performance by the Romans to keep United at bay for 90 minutes.

Pick: Man Utd 1 Roma 0. Roma will be very tight at the back for a struggling scoring Utd but they need the clean sheet themselves and can nick this to progress.
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Chelsea Must Take Initiative at Mestalla
The English Premiership champions from the past two seasons must show their strength on the continent, knowing that only a win will guarantee their passage into the semi-finals. As against Porto in the last 16, Chelsea conceded first against Valencia at Stamford Bridge last Wednesday night, in a game which ended 1-1.
That hands the Spaniards a crucial advantage, as they must now simply repeat the heroics of their home game against Inter Milan in the last 16, where away goals advantage from the first leg proved enough to see them through on a stalemate.
The Blues have failed to live up to their billing as European Champions in waiting, and have slipped from the head of the outright market

Chelsea will have to take the bull by the horns in Spain, but Valencia’s excellent record at the Mestalla is formidable, including just three Champions League defeats. Roman Abramovich has bankrolled the signings of some of the world’s most expensive football talents, and this game is where they need to justify their price-tags.

Pick: Valencia 2 Chelsea 1

Valencia can contain Chelsea on home soil as the blues are far from impressive of late,
and then we will get the backlash on Sunday
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Ill be taking the following for tonights games:

2.5u Valencia/ Chelsea over 2.0 @ 1.97

2u Valencia +0 @ 2.09

1u Valencia/ Chelsea- Draw/ Draw @ 4
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Hard called: 1.77 from betsafe for Manchester to win.

Manchester vs Roma

All Old Trafford will boost the Red Devils for the big revenge after the first leg (lost by 2-1 and played with Paul Scholes red carded alreardy during the first half).
Ferguson must prepare the perfect match, cause Roma is running so fast in their attack plannings.
The home team will miss always Neville, Silvestre and Vidic in backfront line; Park and Scholes in the middle.
Recovered the left back Evra.

Roma missed Perrotta, Tonetto and with Tavano out of european matches, will start with Totti as advanced striker, waiting for the support of Mancini and Taddei, while Wilhelmsson will take the right side and De Rossi will cover the defense.

Key of the matches will be the approach of Cristiano Ronaldo and Rooney, but to watch for Giggs personality (IMO the value added).
Roma, leaded by Totti, will count over the fast sides (Mancini and Wilhelmsson) and Taddei always unpredictable.
To watch also for Pizarro ability to take the lead of the middle zone, missing Paul Scholes by the other side.
If Manchester will hold close the back front, then I guess the home side will find the winner score.
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Just a suggestion: Chelsea to qualify at 2.10 with St.James.

Valencia vs Chelsea

No value about regulars in this tip.
Valencia, for the second time, will gest a draw result at home ground (in the 1/8 finals they drew, on the road, against Inter by 2-2 and so they went through with an home draw by 0-0).
They will stand in the same state tonight: the main differnce is the result of the first result (1-1) that leaves IMO so full of uncertain the return leg, cause Valencia can choose to play an attendist match (like they did against Inter, but they suffered so much), or they can hold under pressure, like good part of the first leg, Chelsea, limited their attack game.
In both cases I think that Chelsea has the chances to score tonight: depsite the haven't shown amazing attack game, in build construction, in the last matches, they have so many players able under the net and Essien back is a card more to play.
Valencia has the talent of Silva and Villa and a solid defense, to add the factor field of Mestalla (even if Chelsea has already played, without too many regards, at Camp Nou, showing their real strongness).
I think for extratimes final and a preference for Chelsea to progress.
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Sport Football (Euro Cups)
Event Valencia vs Chelsea
Selection Chelsea DNB
Strength 8/10
Date 10/04/2007
Bookmaker/Price Centrebet @ 1.91 (Back)
Reasoning Valencia is currently under the same situation when they face Inter in the previous stage. They are approaching this game with away goal advantage and is hugely popular to prevail at Mestala. However, the Valencia that faces Inter would be different from the one facing Chelsea. Valencia will be missing few important players in the form of Baraja, Vicente, Edu, and Machena. They will regain Morientes back but I will always to stick to my principle that a player who came back from an injury would need time to hit top form again. Last week, Valencia were under pressure for the whole match and a moment of brilliance from David Silva changed their fortune. However, its undeniable that Mestala is a fortress in European competition with its superb record for Valencia and we will probably see a different Valencia side than one who relies on fast counter-attacking football in Stamford Bridge. Despite that, I think Chelsea could at least obtain a draw here.

Nevertheless, a win is not impossible either. Jose Mourinho will be taking this match seriously since its the only competition he hasn't won since reigning as the new Chelsea boss. We can see that he rest Ballack and Shevchenko in the weekend game as they are both 2 proven Champions League player. Some might argue that its simply Mourinho rotational policy since Chelsea have a lot of depth in their squad. To note though, Ballack has played in all Chelsea CL games this season and Shevchenko is CL veteran from his time in AC. It is expected for Chelsea to attack since they need the goal. While Valencia should also play some positive football tonight since defending the whole 90 minutes is a bad move against teams like Chelsea. One mistake can be costly. With both side have reasons to attack, its 50 - 50 for me really for who will win the game. With Chelsea having a better midfield line-up arguably at present, this could just prove to be the difference.
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