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Old 25-08-2007, 21:53   #1 (permalink)
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Default Champions League Winner - 2007/8

Champions League: Winner

Friday 23 May 2008
FC Barcelona5.55.55.86.55.565.5-5.565.55.55.55.566.16
Chelsea7.57.56.887.5777.5777.57.57.577.57.27.2
Manchester United7.576.8877.57-77.587.58-7.57.27.6
Inter Milan10109.410101010-101199109101010
AC Milan11119.410119109910991010101012.5
Real Madrid111110.51311109101010111110111111.513
Liverpool1315131315131513111515151313151413.5
Arsenal1921191721211721211921191917212121
Lyon192116.51721172117172121171919211825
Sevilla2121232621212626212621262321212517.5
Valencia2126242126212621212126262921212632
Roma2629242629293425262621263426342742
FC Schalke 043467503467675151345141515151516090
VfB Stuttgart4167564167675151345151675151516895
Werder Bremen2651433451516726512934414126515095
PSV51675867676767716751516767678170220
Marseille5167685167675151515167816710110182-
Lazio516750676710181515167266781418160220
Porto516768676781101715167518181518182220
Benfica126101-1011018112610110110167101101101101-210
Sporting Lisbon101126-101126101126-101126101126101101126-350
Celtic81126120101126101151151126126151101101101151150180
CSKA Moscow10181-10181101151101-81101151101-101-240
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FC Steaua Bucuresti--------------201--
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Rangers126151-151151201126201151151126151151-201-230
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Old 26-08-2007, 04:00   #2 (permalink)
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Liverpool and Arsenal look good odds though it might be wise to wait for the group stage. I don't think Sevilla are seeded which would create a group of death for someone.
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Old 26-08-2007, 10:57   #3 (permalink)
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I don't think Man U will win for same reasons they didn't last year, defensively unstable. I don't rate Ferdinand as highly as others seem to and he keeps showing me why. Rio's concentration levels at times seem to be lacking and his passing seems to have deteriorated or he's trying too much with his passing. I might be wrong but I'm sure I have seen more wayward passes lately. Add in the fact that under Rio and Vidic there is not a lot of real cover and when the tough times hit them they'll concede. If you now add in the fact that Man U seem to struggle against any team that makes them work ie Reading, you will see that they have a number of weak spots. With Rooney out they lack a bit upfront, one of those who can make a real difference in group stage. Tevez is there but who knows how Tevez will play in Champions League as he has never experienced that level of football. I think they lack a real out and out scorer who can take them to the next level and unless they sign a 30 goal a season striker then they have no chance.

Chelsea too I doubt will win, they have a more resolute defence than Manchester United but I think at times that can lack that bit of novelty with their attacks. They often play too narrow in midfield and don't really test opposition full backs. It's why Lampard seems to play better in a Chelsea shirt than and England shirt, because he gets more of the ball. They seem to oft play an attack of hoof to Drogba and hope he does something or alternatively play a simple lay back to Lampard who eyes up his chances from outside the area before shooting. To this end I feel that Malouda and Wright-Phillips may help but only if used effectively. I believe that Joe Cole is a great midfielder but likes cutting in all too often which does nothing to help the width of the team. Finally at right full back they have a weak spot which does not appear to have been fully addressed. Belletti is a good signing but whether he is the answer only time will tell.

Arsenal flatter to deceive too often, playing beautiful passing football but too often with no end product. With Lehmann in goal they have a weak link as has been proved with a number of key mistakes so far this season. I don't believe he's comfortable with crosses, set pieces and seems to have a dodgy temperament. I too believe they have too little central defensive cover Gallas and Toure are a great pair but behind them, who? So I can see them making quarter finals maybe but no further.

Liverpool I believe will be the best English team again as they have a solid defence and can concede few goals. In Reina they have a great penalty stopping keeper who can make the difference at the end of those tight ties. With Torres, they have a striker who has shown great pace which will help with their counter attacking brand of football. They also have 3 superb central midfielders in Sissokko, Alonso and Gerrard. Gerrard now freed up will make a big difference when fit in attacking. Again they have a lack of real cover at centre back but I believe they are different to Arsenal and Man U in this, in that they have a more defensively minded central midfield partnership who will come to the rescue at crucial times. They have proved they are capable of strong results in the past and I believe they could be there or thereabouts again this season.

I think I will have a nibble on them at those odds as think they are most likely English team to be successful in this competition this season.
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Old 26-08-2007, 12:14   #4 (permalink)
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Liverpool at 15/1 is smashing odds, and offers great opportunities to lay them off later for a profit.
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