Champions League » Dec 09

[Magenta]

Originally Posted by Mahno

I didn't say back them Jase...i said draw look good as Olimpiakos are not top Europian team anyway...

Laying Arsenal looks a good bet to me, they have a fair few injuries and while Oly are not the best champions league team they have won both their home games in the comp this year and overall are unbeaten in 13 home CL games streaching back a couple of years, so they know how to play in their own stadium..

[Jase82]

Originally Posted by Mahno

I didn't say back them Jase...i said draw look good as Olimpiakos are not top Europian team anyway...

This is another game where the bookies clearly are undevided on where to place Arsenal. They are ranked at between 3 and 4.7 with various firms. Because of those reasons I think it's probably a game best left alone.

I personally think that Arsenal will be lucky to draw if they rest too many experienced players.

[xaralas]

Originally Posted by Mahno

I didn't say back them Jase...i said draw look good as Olimpiakos are not top Europian team anyway...

It will take less than a top European team to beat Arsenal squad B, in a game with one sided motivation...

[kullykhalsa]

disagree with you mahno i think dynamo at a huge 11/1 on the -1 handicap are worth taking remember this team grinds out results and have recently beaten shaktar 3-0 at home the same shaktar that beat barca 5-2 in the last game , barca have nothing to play for here and i expect a reserve team and dynamo have an outside chance of qualifying so artem milesky to score anytime is a decent bet too.

[BesiktasFC]

Originally Posted by kullykhalsa

disagree with you mahno i think dynamo at a huge 11/1 on the -1 handicap are worth taking remember this team grinds out results and have recently beaten shaktar 3-0 at home the same shaktar that beat barca 5-2 in the last game , barca have nothing to play for here and i expect a reserve team and dynamo have an outside chance of qualifying so artem milesky to score anytime is a decent bet too.

you must be kidding, barca has nothing to play for here ? what if Kiev wins 3-0 and inter beats rubin with any score ? barca goes to uefa cup then, think better . Barca will go there for winning , they wont leave any chance to kiev .

[kullykhalsa]

This dynamo side are mmuch better at home emphasised by the fact that they beat rubin easily 3-1 and away should have got all 3 points, they have matched intermilan both times thye have played them and i dont think they should be taken lightly its games lyk these were i see barca slipping up i dnt think they will get beat 3-0 but 2-0 isnt out of the question just ask rubin!!!

[Jase82]

Originally Posted by kullykhalsa

disagree with you mahno i think dynamo at a huge 11/1 on the -1 handicap are worth taking remember this team grinds out results and have recently beaten shaktar 3-0 at home the same shaktar that beat barca 5-2 in the last game , barca have nothing to play for here and i expect a reserve team and dynamo have an outside chance of qualifying so artem milesky to score anytime is a decent bet too.

That's wrong. If Barcelona lose, they will be level on points with Kiev, wth eight. Both Rubin and Inter are on 6, so technically, if one of Rubin or Inter win and Barcelona lose, they could get eliminated.

[BesiktasFC]

Originally Posted by kullykhalsa

This dynamo side are mmuch better at home emphasised by the fact that they beat rubin easily 3-1 and away should have got all 3 points, they have matched intermilan both times thye have played them and i dont think they should be taken lightly its games lyk these were i see barca slipping up i dnt think they will get beat 3-0 but 2-0 isnt out of the question just ask rubin!!!

they beat rubin 3-1 at home ? big deal ... Well losing against rubin at home for barca 'disaster' this is football anything can happen but guardiola won't allow to see another surprise there. I am a bit sure about that , This is Barcelona>>>>>kiev. we will see .

[Jk]

Arsenal look a huge price to me.

Although it will be a young team, there's still a lot of talent in there and we're still capable of scoring some wonder goals. They've shown in the Carling Cup they can score some wonder goals and fear no-one. I expect we'll line up something like this;

Fabianski
Gilbert- Song - Silvestre - Cruise
Eastmond
Ramsey - Merida
Walcott - Vela - Wilshire

The youngsters are capable of coming up with some nice results so I'll take the 10/3 available at some bookies.

[slider24]

Get on Olympiakos.

We will play some good stuff, especially Merida and Wilshere, and you never know, these youngsters could grow up overnight and put in a mature display, but I very much doubt it.

Look for Olympiakos to show us up on set-pieces.

[TheProphet]

Just heard on SSN that Torres is only fit enough to start on the bench. Aquilani will start though. Are people still confident of a liverpool win?

[IAmGooner]

Originally Posted by slider24

Get on Olympiakos.

We will play some good stuff, especially Merida and Wilshere, and you never know, these youngsters could grow up overnight and put in a mature display, but I very much doubt it.

Look for Olympiakos to show us up on set-pieces.

Completely agree.

Olympiakos at Evens is a super price. The first team would find it tough enough away from home, so can't back the kids to get anything here. With Silvestre in defence, Olympiakos will have chances, the guy is garbage. The guy above posted the team which will likely play bar maybe one or two changes but overall it is very weak and inexperienced.

I also fear that we'll have nothing up front. Thought similar at City in the CC last week but maybe Walcott could provide some thrust. Wouldn't bank on it though. If Olympiakos apply themselves properly, close down the spaces, throw long balls in, commit on set-pieces they'll have chances.

Olympiakos at Evens to beat Arsenal

[Jase82]

Originally Posted by TheProphet

Just heard on SSN that Torres is only fit enough to start on the bench. Aquilani will start though. Are people still confident of a liverpool win?

It'll hinge on whether he goes with Benayoun. Benayoun is their next most valuable midfielder. Aquilani's done nothing yet to justify the fee, mainly because he's been injured I know, but I have my doubts as to whether he will be an adequate replacement for Alonso.

[benaarondavies]

After the shocking results tonight on the champions league we move on to the wednesday games good luck everyone

[Mahno]

Originally Posted by kullykhalsa

disagree with you mahno i think dynamo at a huge 11/1 on the -1 handicap are worth taking remember this team grinds out results and have recently beaten shaktar 3-0 at home the same shaktar that beat barca 5-2 in the last game , barca have nothing to play for here and i expect a reserve team and dynamo have an outside chance of qualifying so artem milesky to score anytime is a decent bet too.

Fair enough,everyone has his own opinion and bet with his own money.

But...did you see Dynamo's last game?Forget about game against Shakhtar as it's ukrainian classico...something like Barca v Real.Dynamo plays same squad for many games now and players become tired.Also as i said before Sheva is too old now and all he can give is expirience...Milevsky is a fcuking clown who likes to dive and get penalty for...If keeper Bogush will play then they are doomed as he is one of them...you know...crap ones...
Barca took to Kiev full squad and as far as i know had 2 training sessions.With Messi,Ibra,Inesta,Xavi,Pedro i see Barca scoring 2 or 3 goals easy.

Will get more news tomorrow but at the moment i'm going on Barca large

[Mahno]

Originally Posted by Jk

Arsenal look a huge price to me.

Although it will be a young team, there's still a lot of talent in there and we're still capable of scoring some wonder goals. They've shown in the Carling Cup they can score some wonder goals and fear no-one. I expect we'll line up something like this;

Fabianski
Gilbert- Song - Silvestre - Cruise
Eastmond
Ramsey - Merida
Walcott - Vela - Wilshire

The youngsters are capable of coming up with some nice results so I'll take the 10/3 available at some bookies.

Atleast someone is on my side

[Mahno]

Yes,it's a must win game for Olimpiakos and yes,Arsenal will play young squad...

Now does it remind you something?Today's game?Wolfsburg v Man.Un?
Was must win for Wolfsburg and Man.Un played B Team...what was a final score?1-3,even Dzeko,Grafite and Mimisovic didn't help.

And why people keep comparing loss of young Arsenal to Man.City to Olimpiakos game?How can you compare full squad man.City to Olympiakos anyway?

Only my opinion anyway...may be wrong but who knows...

[Mahno]

Originally Posted by xaralas

It will take less than a top European team to beat Arsenal squad B, in a game with one sided motivation...

Did you have bet on motivated Wolfsburg against B team United?
Even if you didn't then you still know about the result

[Mahno]

Originally Posted by kullykhalsa

This dynamo side are mmuch better at home emphasised by the fact that they beat rubin easily 3-1 and away should have got all 3 points, they have matched intermilan both times thye have played them and i dont think they should be taken lightly its games lyk these were i see barca slipping up i dnt think they will get beat 3-0 but 2-0 isnt out of the question just ask rubin!!!

Yes,so how could Inter beat Kiev 2-1 after 1 -0 lead at HT?
Does it tell you anything?Anyway the choice is yours,can't be bothered to argue with you

[benaarondavies]

I know not much is riding on the lyon game, but Debrecen are a woeful team and lyon -1 is a good bet in my opinion. if Lyon win and fiorentina losses then Lyon are 1st in the group. Will wait for team news though.