Champions League » Dec 08

[Alessan]

I had some luck in last week's EL bets, so I'll give the CL another shot, with a small trixie:

Juventus - Bayern
PICK: HOME WIN @ 2.30 (local)

Betting on the difference in form with these two teams, and as I see it, Bayern doesn't have what it takes to win in Italy, and I hope Juve will sneak a goal from some counter-strike...

Marseille - Real Madrid
PICK: AWAY WIN @ 2.30 (local)

I hope that "superstars" will get the job done here, although they used to have a lot of problems against French clubs before. And I like the price, seems good to me.

Wolfsburg - Manchester United
PICK: HOME WIN @ 2.30 (local)

Here's the chance for Wolfsburg, they have let me down this weekend with that draw, but I hope they will take the opportunity of a decimated ManUtd squad.

[vikki37]

Wolfsburg v Manchester United
over 2.5 goals (thinking of Draw or Home Win)

As everyone has said, bad defense in both teams, easy to get in goals. Also, out of 8 matches for Wolfsburg, 7 have been over 2.5 goals. 5 out of 7 matches, over 2 goals have been conceded in. Although Manchester United are on the top of the group, as Scholes mentioned, Manchester United will try their best to win this match, they still want to be at the top of the group, no matter what team they will play the next match. As a Manchester United fan, of course I want them to win. However, I feel that this match could end in a draw and Wolfsburg does have a home advantage. Even if Wolfsburg win, it would only be by one goal.

Zurich v AC Milan
Away Win(AC Milan)

Zurich have only won 1, draw 2 and lost 5 out of the last 8 matches. They do better at home, however AC Milan has won 5 out of 8 matches and the other 3 being a draw. If Real Madrid loses on draw, AC Milan may become 3rd in their group, in which they will not take the chance of not qualifying into the next round. AC Milan will also want to get back their win as they lost the first time round (1-0) against Zurich when they were at home.

[punterchronicles]

Chelsea would want to erase the loss at City from their minds and although they are safely through could be backed for the win, although the odds of 1.3 are quite short.

Milan's attach is on fire. Their defeat at home to Zurich still hurts. Backing them for an away win @ 1.36.

Will also look closely at Man Utd line up once announced. A Dzeko v Carrick situation with the former very good in the air could lead to lots of goals in the game. Predicting a very open game as Man Utd will surely attack and use attack as the best for of defence

[xaralas]

Originally Posted by punterchronicles

Chelsea would want to erase the loss at City from their minds

Probable lineup for Chelsea? In my mind, that is the most important thing. If they field some squad B, why bother really...

[tkrogh]

VfL Wolfsburg vs Manchester Utd:
I disagree with the 1-1 draw that some people expect from this game. I do agree with most punters, and I think that it will be an open game and that there will be plenty of goal opportunities. Both teams probably playing 4-4-2.

Manchester United are without John O’Shea, Wes Brown, Fabio, Rafael, Gary Neville, Jonny Evans, Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic, Owen Hargreaves, Wayne Rooney, Dimitar Berbatov and Ryan Giggs. That is 12 players that havent travelled to Germany and Mr. Ferguson will therefore field mostly B-team players.

Do not underestimate Wolfsburg. In MY personal oppinion they are one of the best teams in Germany and Manchester United might be one of the best in England, but definitely not with the motley crue they will be playing with today.

I think its quite funny to visit the Manchester United sites, the fanpages, blogs and whatnot, and read all the DIEHARD fans talking about eternal glory and definite wins for the red devils. That is just not a reality tonight. I have no doubt that their squad will do their best with pushing and attacks, but it wont be enough to beat W.

For Wolfsburg this will be one of their most important matches ever. I am confident that they wont **** up.

Advice: Wolfsburg to win. Odds: 2.12 - Betfair.com.
Advice: Over 2.5 goals. Odds: 2.00 - Betfair.com.

[TheProphet]

Originally Posted by xaralas

Probable lineup for Chelsea? In my mind, that is the most important thing. If they field some squad B, why bother really...

According to The Times:

Thurnbull
Belletti Ivanovic Carvalho Zhirkov

Lampard Mikel Essien
J Cole

Anelka Kakuta

[AaronFern]

i'm going to wait for team lineups to be announced before i place any bets. teams i will be looking out for is juventus, to see whether buffon and chiellini start, although chiellini definately ruled out. as well as man utd to see what team they actually play, i hear carrick and fletcher will be their centre backs. i want to see chelsea's lineup, ancelloti says they will field a fairly strong lineup, although he has a few doubts and will probably start kakuta.

other than that i will probably go for over:
over 2.5 marseille vs real madrid, marseille being a different team to the one that got hammered by madrid in the earlier game, an impressive win against zurich and performance against milan, their defence is still shakey but real madrid dont go out looking to defend goals are in the game.
and depending on the lineups like i said, small stake on a treble on milan, chelsea and wolfsburg/draw

[fezzik]

Originally Posted by vikki37

Wolfsburg v Manchester United
over 2.5 goals (thinking of Draw or Home Win)

As everyone has said, bad defense in both teams, easy to get in goals. Also, out of 8 matches for Wolfsburg, 7 have been over 2.5 goals. 5 out of 7 matches, over 2 goals have been conceded in. Although Manchester United are on the top of the group, as Scholes mentioned, Manchester United will try their best to win this match, they still want to be at the top of the group, no matter what team they will play the next match. As a Manchester United fan, of course I want them to win. However, I feel that this match could end in a draw and Wolfsburg does have a home advantage. Even if Wolfsburg win, it would only be by one goal.

Zurich v AC Milan
Away Win(AC Milan)

Zurich have only won 1, draw 2 and lost 5 out of the last 8 matches. They do better at home, however AC Milan has won 5 out of 8 matches and the other 3 being a draw. If Real Madrid loses on draw, AC Milan may become 3rd in their group, in which they will not take the chance of not qualifying into the next round. AC Milan will also want to get back their win as they lost the first time round (1-0) against Zurich when they were at home.

like the analysis of Wolfsbug/Man U - not sure this nailed on as Wolfsburg win or overs as some people think! Man U very rarely lose in Europe, full stop.

be careful with Milan - they have looked laboured in the league recently and have struggled to break stubborn defences down. think it depends on how determined Zurich are to give performance - maybe a Zurich AH bet would be be better value..?

[Jase82]

UEFA have suspended CSKA Moscow defenders; Alexey Berezutskiy & Sergey Ignashevich for doping irregularities.

Gotta say that Besiktas are more attractive following this news.

[xaralas]

Originally Posted by TheProphet

According to The Times:

Thurnbull
Belletti Ivanovic Carvalho Zhirkov

Lampard Mikel Essien
J Cole

Anelka Kakuta

Thurnbull?...

Kakuta?...

[xaralas]

Originally Posted by Jase82

UEFA have suspended CSKA Moscow defenders; Alexey Berezutskiy & Sergey Ignashevich for doping irregularities.

Gotta say that Besiktas are more attractive following this news.

Well, that's kind of old news now and MOSTLY that is the reason that opening prices on Besiktas have been rapidly slashed some days ago...

[Jase82]

Originally Posted by xaralas

Well, that's kind of old news now and MOSTLY that is the reason that opening prices on Besiktas have been rapidly slashed some days ago...

If it's old news where was the information for these suspended players when the odds were brought out? Sky Sports only broke the story two hours ago.

[Jase82]

Originally Posted by xaralas

Thurnbull?...

Kakuta?...

Turnbull is a highly rated English goalkeeper. Kakuta is Gaël Kakuta. Hotly rated French youngster.

[Marcus1874]

Originally Posted by xaralas

Thurnbull?...

Kakuta?...

What's the problem? He most likely meant Turnbull...Kakuta is Gael Kakuta...the guy who was at the centre of the Chelsea transfer ban saga.

edit: beaten by Jase

[SpiritOf67]

Wolfsburg v Man Utd

Decided to opt for Wolfsburg here, just can't resist with Man Utd missing so many key players. First choice keeper is out, first choice defenders out, first choice midfielders playing in defence, first choice strikers out. They will still put out a good team and Carrick has attributes that would make him a decent centre back on the deck but Dzeko is very good in the air.

All things considered here, Wolfsburg will be highly motivated to get the win to get them through to the next round, they would have had a chance at home against a Utd first XI at home and were unlucky going down 2-1 at Old Trafford. Utd could still top the group anyway should CSKA Moscow win in Turkey. Considering both first elevens here and the fact Wolfsburg will have the extra motivation in still having to qualify I think you have to take the Germans here. Wolfsburg last 7 games have gone over 2.5 aswell and they do leak goals so overs also looks a strong shout here.

Selection- Wolfsburg
11/10- bet365

[xaralas]

Originally Posted by Jase82

If it's old news where was the information for these suspended players when the odds were brought out? Sky Sports only broke the story two hours ago.

I have seen it going around in betting forums from Monday, maybe even late Sunday... Don't know when the decision was made. Maybe it was confirmed on Monday, but it was an older story... Anyway!

[Spannar]

Originally Posted by tkrogh

VfL Wolfsburg vs Manchester Utd:
I disagree with the 1-1 draw that some people expect from this game. I do agree with most punters, and I think that it will be an open game and that there will be plenty of goal opportunities. Both teams probably playing 4-4-2.

Manchester United are without John OShea, Wes Brown, Fabio, Rafael, Gary Neville, Jonny Evans, Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic, Owen Hargreaves, Wayne Rooney, Dimitar Berbatov and Ryan Giggs. That is 12 players that havent travelled to Germany and Mr. Ferguson will therefore field mostly B-team players.

Do not underestimate Wolfsburg. In MY personal oppinion they are one of the best teams in Germany and Manchester United might be one of the best in England, but definitely not with the motley crue they will be playing with today.

I think its quite funny to visit the Manchester United sites, the fanpages, blogs and whatnot, and read all the DIEHARD fans talking about eternal glory and definite wins for the red devils. That is just not a reality tonight. I have no doubt that their squad will do their best with pushing and attacks, but it wont be enough to beat W.

For Wolfsburg this will be one of their most important matches ever. I am confident that they wont **** up.

Advice: Wolfsburg to win. Odds: 2.12 - Betfair.com.
Advice: Over 2.5 goals. Odds: 2.00 - Betfair.com.

Mate i think its possible that these 'die hard' fans are probably just 14 yr old kids .
I havn't read any blogs or sites that are tipping utd to win or even draw myself.
Eergie shouldn't have put the club in this position and its his own arrogance against Besisktas that means 2nd place in the group is almost inevitable now.
Any utd fan that gambles have they're money firmly on a Wolfsburg win tonight . I just hope you havn't jinxed it for the rest of us who if anything are overestimating Wolfsburg and certainly not underestating them and hoping that they don't presume to have already won this game.
Afterall thats the worst possible scenario for anyone who is on Wolfsburg

[tkrogh]

Originally Posted by Spannar

Mate i think its possible that these 'die hard' fans are probably just 14 yr old kids .
I havn't read any blogs or sites that are tipping utd to win or even draw myself.
Eergie shouldn't have put the club in this position and its his own arrogance against Besisktas that means 2nd place in the group is almost inevitable now.
Any utd fan that gambles have they're money firmly on a Wolfsburg win tonight . I just hope you havn't jinxed it for the rest of us who if anything are overestimating Wolfsburg and certainly not underestating them and hoping that they don't presume to have already won this game.
Afterall thats the worst possible scenario for anyone who is on Wolfsburg

I dont belive in jinxing anything. The teams are gonna play tonight no matter what we bet on and it wont have any effect on their match.

My bet is Wolfsburg to win as I think they have a much better lineup than Manchester United tonight. If United were playing with their best squad, this wouldnt have been an option, but theyre not. They playing without 12 regulars.

Fade or tail for me its W winning in Germany tonight. Good luck.

[Mozzi]

I'll level here and say I am a United fan myself before I make this post and I like to think that I'm not biased but I'll leave that down to yourselves.

I genuinely think United will win this game. We've not been convincing this season until the last few games or so but one thing we do tend to do is score goals. We've not taken any defenders with us - I discount Evra because he tends to prefer playing in attack rather than defence! With that in mind, United are going to attack, and they're going to attack an inept Wolfsburg defence that have conceded something like ten goals in their last five games, including 3 at home to Nurnberg and 2 at home to Freiburg. If they can't keep their opponents out much better than that, particularly when they're supposed to be the better side, they're going to really struggle against a United side that simply must attack! Wolfsburg's attack is good so I think over 2.5 goals is probably better than the away win but make no mistake - United will be fielding a lot of midfielders in this game, midfielders that will keep the ball like we did against West Ham which is why they barely created anything. Dzeko is a threat if he isn't marked and I'd be surprised if Wolfsburg didn't score but I'd be even more surprised if we didn't score more than them unless the cripple is spear-heading our attack!

Anyway, just my thoughts. Good luck all!

[Spannar]

Originally Posted by tkrogh

VfL Wolfsburg vs Manchester Utd:
I disagree with the 1-1 draw that some people expect from this game. I do agree with most punters, and I think that it will be an open game and that there will be plenty of goal opportunities. Both teams probably playing 4-4-2.

Manchester United are without John OShea, Wes Brown, Fabio, Rafael, Gary Neville, Jonny Evans, Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic, Owen Hargreaves, Wayne Rooney, Dimitar Berbatov and Ryan Giggs. That is 12 players that havent travelled to Germany and Mr. Ferguson will therefore field mostly B-team players.

Do not underestimate Wolfsburg. In MY personal oppinion they are one of the best teams in Germany and Manchester United might be one of the best in England, but definitely not with the motley crue they will be playing with today.

I think its quite funny to visit the Manchester United sites, the fanpages, blogs and whatnot, and read all the DIEHARD fans talking about eternal glory and definite wins for the red devils. That is just not a reality tonight. I have no doubt that their squad will do their best with pushing and attacks, but it wont be enough to beat W.

For Wolfsburg this will be one of their most important matches ever. I am confident that they wont **** up.

Advice: Wolfsburg to win. Odds: 2.12 - Betfair.com.
Advice: Over 2.5 goals. Odds: 2.00 - Betfair.com.

Mate i think its possible that these 'die hard' fans are probably just 14 yr old kids .
I havn't read any blogs or sites that are tipping utd to win or even draw myself.
Eergie shouldn't have put the club in this position and its his own arrogance against Besisktas that means 2nd place in the group is almost inevitable now.
Any utd fan that gambles have they're money firmly on a Wolfsburg win tonight . I just hope you havn't jinxed it for the rest of us who if anything are overestimating Wolfsburg and certainly not underestating them and hoping that they don't presume to have already won this game.
Afterall thats the worst possible scenario for anyone who is on Wolfsburg