Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 - The Punters Lounge

G:G · 08-06-2007, 10:50

Saturday 9 June 2007
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Degerfors v Häcken (15:00 BST)	4.50	3.75	1.93	101%
Sunday 10 June 2007
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Åtvidaberg v Enköping (16:00 BST)	2.05	3.55	3.70	104%
Ljungskile v Sylvia (16:00 BST)	1.72	3.90	5.50	102%
Mjällby v Bunkeflo (16:00 BST)	1.88	3.60	4.25	105%
Monday 11 June 2007
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
IK Sirius BK v Landskrona (18:00 BST)	2.20	3.50	3.25	105%
Jönköping Södra v Öster (18:00 BST)	2.90	3.50	2.50	104%
Tuesday 12 June 2007
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Örgryte v Falkenberg (18:00 BST)	1.72	3.60	4.80	107%

G:G · 08-06-2007, 13:09

Mjällby @ 1.87 (Pinnacle)
Newcomers Bunkeflo have done ok sofar, they are always fighting and very tough to meet, also dangerous in set-piece situations, but imo rather limited in their way of playing. Mjällby have had many injurie problems, but managed to get 10 points in 7 matches anyway, and at home they are a force: 2 1 0 7-0, add to that the cupwin vs Elfsborg (0-0 after ft)and I must say that I favour Mjällby to win this one, they will probably have problems with Bunkeflo's defence, but they will get chances to score and I hope they can be sharp enough to use them.

ScorpioRed · 08-06-2007, 13:24

I do fancy the following two matches:
Ljunskile vs Sylvia, Ljunskile -.75 at 1.87
IK Sirius BK vs Landskrona, IK Sitius BK at over 2.+

Sylvia seems tu be struggling, even at home, won only one match since August 23rd with Jonkoping. Ljunskile seems to be a better team so far.

Landskrona having bad crisis since the new season started, terrible away, Sirius very solid at home so far.

Opinios and info on squads more then welcome (greeting G:G

;-)

bobimihi · 10-06-2007, 10:37

G:G pleas read this end make comment(s):
http://www.svenskafans.com/fotboll/l....asp?id=175482
http://www.svenskafans.com/fotboll/a....asp?id=175438
http://www.svenskafans.com/fotboll/a....asp?id=175488
http://www.svenskafans.com/fotboll/m....asp?id=175436
All in Swedish. In advance- BIG thanks!!!
I know in Stockholm 30 degrees , maybe you are on beach - fortunate man!
BOBI

G:G · 10-06-2007, 12:13

Hi guys, sorry very short of time, and yes, it's really hot in Stockholm...

Ljungskile should win, but today without goalscorer Gravem and gk. Sylvia were unlucky to loose last match, created enough chances to win, but if I had to choose a winner it would be Ljungskile.

Åtvidaberg looks probable too, but their last three wins should not be overreated, in two of the matches the opponants got a red card. Enköping get back two players from since last match and can very well put up a big fight.

AIK: No comments, im biased... will be at Råsunda later.

G:G · 10-06-2007, 20:05

Mjällby @ 1.87 >>> 2-2, Bunkeflo got the equalizer in 90th...

G:G · 10-06-2007, 20:28

Öster -0.25 @ 2.17 (Pinnacle)
Jönköping have lost their last two matches, Sylvia at home 0-4, and Häcken away 0-2, they were heavily utplayed in both matches, so their form must be considered a questionmark. Öster have had a disasterous start to Superettan, currently placed at 16th and last place, only one win in 7 matches. I don't think that Öster will stay in the lower regions though, imo they have quality enough to be in top 4, I think they will start to win soon. Öster's injurie situation looks brighter: Figureido and Zavadil back, two very importantmidfielders, cruicial for Öster's attacking. Vasilj och Da Silva suspended however, but Öster managed to get a draw away to BP in the cup without them, so I hope it wont prove very important. Öster have more quality and will be ahead of Jönköping when the season ends, I back them to win this one.

FinLandiaFish · 11-06-2007, 10:37

IK Sirius Uppsala - Landskrona

Teams are at the opposite ends of the table, Sirius at second place with 13-8 goal diff. and Landskrona at 15th place (second to last) with 6-13 goal diff. Landskrona has lost four games in a row, three last being with more than one, and has posted 0-2-2 record with 1-6 goal diff. on road. Sirius on the other hand has looked great at home goin' on 4/4 wins with excellent 10-3 goal diff and three wins have been with more than one goal. So pretty much everything points to Sirius's win here and I think at home they should have no problem whatsoever to beat lowly Landskrona. Can't figure out why the odds are so high but can't complain

IK Sirius Uppsala @2.00

IK Sirius Uppsala (-1.0) @3.40
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Best of luck to everyone

Goe · 11-06-2007, 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinLandiaFish

IK Sirius Uppsala - Landskrona

Teams are at the opposite ends of the table, Sirius at second place with 13-8 goal diff. and Landskrona at 15th place (second to last) with 6-13 goal diff. Landskrona has lost four games in a row, three last being with more than one, and has posted 0-2-2 record with 1-6 goal diff. on road. Sirius on the other hand has looked great at home goin' on 4/4 wins with excellent 10-3 goal diff and three wins have been with more than one goal. So pretty much everything points to Sirius's win here and I think at home they should have no problem whatsoever to beat lowly Landskrona. Can't figure out why the odds are so high but can't complain

IK Sirius Uppsala @2.00

IK Sirius Uppsala (-1.0) @3.40
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Best of luck to everyone

Odds incredibly high, Pinnacle has it even 2.13. Does anybody know the reason?

G:G · 11-06-2007, 12:16

Pierre Gallo, Mani Tourang, Daniel Hoch and Fredrik Olsson back for Sirius, good news for them. Persson and Eklund back for Landskrona, who still miss attacker Pettersson, they will start with many young players again. Sirius are really strong at home and Landskrona looks to be in deep trouble, so why Pinnacle offer 2.16 for home win is beyond me. Maybe because Landskrona "should" be good and Sirius are newcomers, I don't know.

Tipster · 11-06-2007, 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by G:G

Pierre Gallo, Mani Tourang, Daniel Hoch and Fredrik Olsson back for Sirius, good news for them. Persson and Eklund back for Landskrona, who still miss attacker Pettersson, they will start with many young players again. Sirius are really strong at home and Landskrona looks to be in deep trouble, so why Pinnacle offer 2.16 for home win is beyond me. Maybe because Landskrona "should" be good and Sirius are newcomers, I don't know.

Do u know how many young players'll be in BOIS's line-up, G:G?

G:G · 11-06-2007, 14:55

Don't know Landskrona's line up yet, but this one's probable according to their fansite:
Sebastian Karlsson - Mikael Dahlgren, Andrew Kelly, Amar Muharemovic, Kalle Corneliusson - Valentino Lai, Joakim Persson, Morten Avnskjold, Håkan Söderstjerna - Matthias Eklund, Alvedin Nezirovac.

Defender Muharemovic not too experienced, 21 years old, attacker Nezirovac 20 years old. Also 23 years old defenders Dahlgren and Kelly not very experienced. This looks like a pretty good mix to me though, Corneliusson, Persson, Avnskjold, Söderstjerna and Eklund have plenty of routine. Landskrona's problem the way I see it is that they don't have much quality on the bench: Lee Baxter (mv), Emil Möller, Ivo Pekalski, Christoffer Carlsson, Patrik Holmgren, Alaudin Cecunjanin.
Möller, Holmgren and Cecunjanin from the U21 team, Pekalski and Carlsson 17 and 18 years old. If things don't work or someone gets injured they don't have many options atm.

Snowman · 11-06-2007, 15:16

IK Sirius Uppsala - Landskrona Yes, I would also do the same concerning the odds just for that reason. But Landskrona are exactly in deep trouble, and I see no way out of its depth. They show some marks of improvement, then they go down again, I think it is a sign of a really weak squad, and I would sooner expect the good players to depart than to see them back on the track. On the other hand, Sirius have shown that they are a really strong squad, not just a lucky beginning, so I agree HW should be taken. If it matters the only two games Landskrona won (in the league and in the cup) I did bety against them, but well, I am not superstitous, so HW it is

Jönköping Södra v Öster Quite reassured by what you said GG, I also see Oster as a winning bet tonight, simply they are way better than the last place, and they will start winning very soon, so tonight is the right moment to take this perfectly high odds. And the next time, and the next time. If we bet next six times in a row on Oster, it is quite likely there will be a nice profit

Goe · 11-06-2007, 15:29

I'm pis*** off to see odds going higher and higher on Sirius, now -0.25 AH is 1.99. Wtf? Is it possible to see some bookies' underground handiwork?

I mean I trust you guys and your reasoning here, but it seems that all that you said is in contradiction with the way bookies see it.

G:G · 11-06-2007, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goe

I'm pis*** off to see odds going higher and higher on Sirius, now -0.25 AH is 1.99. Wtf? Is it possible to see some bookies' underground handiwork?

I mean I trust you guys and your reasoning here, but it seems that all that you said is in contradiction with the way bookies see it.

I've noticed it too, and I really don't understand...spooky

allthethings · 11-06-2007, 15:39

Because I don't trust Superettan results, I am placing two bets, one as a cover in case of a draw:

4 units:
Soccer - Sirius - spread -½ (+121)
for the regulation time held on Jun 11 at 12:00pm [pending]

1.8 units:
Soccer - Draw (Sirius vs Landskrona) - moneyline (+230)
for the regulation time held on Jun 11 at 12:00pm [pending]

In this way, a win by Sirius pays 3 units, a draw is a push. If Landskrona wins, I cry just a little more. BOL all

Snowman · 11-06-2007, 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by G:G

I've noticed it too, and I really don't understand...spooky

When it is unclear, avoid it

. We still have Oster

FinLandiaFish · 11-06-2007, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goe

I'm pis*** off to see odds going higher and higher on Sirius, now -0.25 AH is 1.99. Wtf? Is it possible to see some bookies' underground handiwork?

I mean I trust you guys and your reasoning here, but it seems that all that you said is in contradiction with the way bookies see it.

Really weird indeed, for example Betsafe has raised to 2.10 for straight win. But it's not all just goin' up, Expekt dropped to 2.00 and Bwin down to 1.90. All in all I wouldn't draw too much attention to it (I know I don't), after all it's nice to have better odds. Mostly I've noticed that paying too much attention to rising lines (and altering your opinion cuz of it) tends to get you f'ed, so I don't mind the extra cream on the cake

allthethings · 11-06-2007, 15:55

The lines are a reflection of the marketplace, usually in response to what bettors are doing...but I can suggest an alternative reason. If a book is taking nothing but Sirius bets, to cover themselves they can go to another book and bet on Landskrona to cover the +0.5 as a hedge. That is often the reason for a late surge the "wrong" way.

FinLandiaFish · 11-06-2007, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinLandiaFish

IK Sirius Uppsala 2 - 0 Landskrona

IK Sirius Uppsala @2.00

IK Sirius Uppsala (-1.0) @3.40
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Perfect

Also my compliments to G:G yet again as I tailed his Öster pick and it seems they've won 2-0 also

08-06-2007, 13:09	#2 (permalink)
G:G _GNAGET_ Join Date: 06 Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm Posts: 3,142	Re: Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 Mjällby @ 1.87 (Pinnacle) Newcomers Bunkeflo have done ok sofar, they are always fighting and very tough to meet, also dangerous in set-piece situations, but imo rather limited in their way of playing. Mjällby have had many injurie problems, but managed to get 10 points in 7 matches anyway, and at home they are a force: 2 1 0 7-0, add to that the cupwin vs Elfsborg (0-0 after ft)and I must say that I favour Mjällby to win this one, they will probably have problems with Bunkeflo's defence, but they will get chances to score and I hope they can be sharp enough to use them. __________________ Politics is the same everywhere, doesn't matter how he labels himself, there's always this wank*r waiting to tell you what to do and think, tell you that you never had it so good, never had it so bad.

08-06-2007, 13:24	#3 (permalink)
ScorpioRed Shrewdie Punter Join Date: 27 Oct 2006 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 569	Re: Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 I do fancy the following two matches: Ljunskile vs Sylvia, Ljunskile -.75 at 1.87 IK Sirius BK vs Landskrona, IK Sitius BK at over 2.+ Sylvia seems tu be struggling, even at home, won only one match since August 23rd with Jonkoping. Ljunskile seems to be a better team so far. Landskrona having bad crisis since the new season started, terrible away, Sirius very solid at home so far. Opinios and info on squads more then welcome (greeting G:G ;-)

10-06-2007, 10:37	#4 (permalink)
bobimihi Junior Punter Join Date: 30 Dec 2006 Location: Sofia, BG Age: 46 Posts: 72	Re: Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 G:G pleas read this end make comment(s): http://www.svenskafans.com/fotboll/l....asp?id=175482 http://www.svenskafans.com/fotboll/a....asp?id=175438 http://www.svenskafans.com/fotboll/a....asp?id=175488 http://www.svenskafans.com/fotboll/m....asp?id=175436 All in Swedish. In advance- BIG thanks!!! I know in Stockholm 30 degrees , maybe you are on beach - fortunate man! BOBI Last edited by bobimihi; 10-06-2007 at 10:51.

10-06-2007, 12:13	#5 (permalink)
G:G _GNAGET_ Join Date: 06 Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm Posts: 3,142	Re: Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 Hi guys, sorry very short of time, and yes, it's really hot in Stockholm... Ljungskile should win, but today without goalscorer Gravem and gk. Sylvia were unlucky to loose last match, created enough chances to win, but if I had to choose a winner it would be Ljungskile. Åtvidaberg looks probable too, but their last three wins should not be overreated, in two of the matches the opponants got a red card. Enköping get back two players from since last match and can very well put up a big fight. AIK: No comments, im biased... will be at Råsunda later. __________________ Politics is the same everywhere, doesn't matter how he labels himself, there's always this wank*r waiting to tell you what to do and think, tell you that you never had it so good, never had it so bad.

10-06-2007, 20:05	#6 (permalink)
G:G _GNAGET_ Join Date: 06 Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm Posts: 3,142	Re: Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 Mjällby @ 1.87 >>> 2-2, Bunkeflo got the equalizer in 90th... __________________ Politics is the same everywhere, doesn't matter how he labels himself, there's always this wank*r waiting to tell you what to do and think, tell you that you never had it so good, never had it so bad.

10-06-2007, 20:28	#7 (permalink)
G:G _GNAGET_ Join Date: 06 Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm Posts: 3,142	Re: Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 Öster -0.25 @ 2.17 (Pinnacle) Jönköping have lost their last two matches, Sylvia at home 0-4, and Häcken away 0-2, they were heavily utplayed in both matches, so their form must be considered a questionmark. Öster have had a disasterous start to Superettan, currently placed at 16th and last place, only one win in 7 matches. I don't think that Öster will stay in the lower regions though, imo they have quality enough to be in top 4, I think they will start to win soon. Öster's injurie situation looks brighter: Figureido and Zavadil back, two very importantmidfielders, cruicial for Öster's attacking. Vasilj och Da Silva suspended however, but Öster managed to get a draw away to BP in the cup without them, so I hope it wont prove very important. Öster have more quality and will be ahead of Jönköping when the season ends, I back them to win this one. __________________ Politics is the same everywhere, doesn't matter how he labels himself, there's always this wank*r waiting to tell you what to do and think, tell you that you never had it so good, never had it so bad.

11-06-2007, 10:37	#8 (permalink)
FinLandiaFish Seasoned Punter Join Date: 15 Apr 2006 Location: Finland Age: 21 Posts: 415	Re: Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 IK Sirius Uppsala - Landskrona Teams are at the opposite ends of the table, Sirius at second place with 13-8 goal diff. and Landskrona at 15th place (second to last) with 6-13 goal diff. Landskrona has lost four games in a row, three last being with more than one, and has posted 0-2-2 record with 1-6 goal diff. on road. Sirius on the other hand has looked great at home goin' on 4/4 wins with excellent 10-3 goal diff and three wins have been with more than one goal. So pretty much everything points to Sirius's win here and I think at home they should have no problem whatsoever to beat lowly Landskrona. Can't figure out why the odds are so high but can't complain IK Sirius Uppsala @2.00 IK Sirius Uppsala (-1.0) @3.40 ------------------------------ Best of luck to everyone

11-06-2007, 12:16	#10 (permalink)
G:G _GNAGET_ Join Date: 06 Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm Posts: 3,142	Re: Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 Pierre Gallo, Mani Tourang, Daniel Hoch and Fredrik Olsson back for Sirius, good news for them. Persson and Eklund back for Landskrona, who still miss attacker Pettersson, they will start with many young players again. Sirius are really strong at home and Landskrona looks to be in deep trouble, so why Pinnacle offer 2.16 for home win is beyond me. Maybe because Landskrona "should" be good and Sirius are newcomers, I don't know. __________________ Politics is the same everywhere, doesn't matter how he labels himself, there's always this wank*r waiting to tell you what to do and think, tell you that you never had it so good, never had it so bad.

11-06-2007, 14:55	#12 (permalink)
G:G _GNAGET_ Join Date: 06 Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm Posts: 3,142	Re: Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 Don't know Landskrona's line up yet, but this one's probable according to their fansite: Sebastian Karlsson - Mikael Dahlgren, Andrew Kelly, Amar Muharemovic, Kalle Corneliusson - Valentino Lai, Joakim Persson, Morten Avnskjold, Håkan Söderstjerna - Matthias Eklund, Alvedin Nezirovac. Defender Muharemovic not too experienced, 21 years old, attacker Nezirovac 20 years old. Also 23 years old defenders Dahlgren and Kelly not very experienced. This looks like a pretty good mix to me though, Corneliusson, Persson, Avnskjold, Söderstjerna and Eklund have plenty of routine. Landskrona's problem the way I see it is that they don't have much quality on the bench: Lee Baxter (mv), Emil Möller, Ivo Pekalski, Christoffer Carlsson, Patrik Holmgren, Alaudin Cecunjanin. Möller, Holmgren and Cecunjanin from the U21 team, Pekalski and Carlsson 17 and 18 years old. If things don't work or someone gets injured they don't have many options atm. __________________ Politics is the same everywhere, doesn't matter how he labels himself, there's always this wank*r waiting to tell you what to do and think, tell you that you never had it so good, never had it so bad.

11-06-2007, 15:16	#13 (permalink)
Snowman Frozen pitch punter Join Date: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 786	Re: Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 IK Sirius Uppsala - Landskrona Yes, I would also do the same concerning the odds just for that reason. But Landskrona are exactly in deep trouble, and I see no way out of its depth. They show some marks of improvement, then they go down again, I think it is a sign of a really weak squad, and I would sooner expect the good players to depart than to see them back on the track. On the other hand, Sirius have shown that they are a really strong squad, not just a lucky beginning, so I agree HW should be taken. If it matters the only two games Landskrona won (in the league and in the cup) I did bety against them, but well, I am not superstitous, so HW it is Jönköping Södra v Öster Quite reassured by what you said GG, I also see Oster as a winning bet tonight, simply they are way better than the last place, and they will start winning very soon, so tonight is the right moment to take this perfectly high odds. And the next time, and the next time. If we bet next six times in a row on Oster, it is quite likely there will be a nice profit

11-06-2007, 15:29	#14 (permalink)
Goe Senior Punter Join Date: 08 Feb 2007 Location: Romania Age: 31 Posts: 118	Re: Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 I'm pis*** off to see odds going higher and higher on Sirius, now -0.25 AH is 1.99. Wtf? Is it possible to see some bookies' underground handiwork? I mean I trust you guys and your reasoning here, but it seems that all that you said is in contradiction with the way bookies see it.

11-06-2007, 15:39	#16 (permalink)
allthethings God Punter Join Date: 02 Nov 2006 Location: In a van down by the river Age: 47 Posts: 2,023	Re: Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 Because I don't trust Superettan results, I am placing two bets, one as a cover in case of a draw: 4 units: Soccer - Sirius - spread -½ (+121) for the regulation time held on Jun 11 at 12:00pm [pending] 1.8 units: Soccer - Draw (Sirius vs Landskrona) - moneyline (+230) for the regulation time held on Jun 11 at 12:00pm [pending] In this way, a win by Sirius pays 3 units, a draw is a push. If Landskrona wins, I cry just a little more. BOL all __________________ "Get on me, Bert...I can't lose!" — Fast Eddie Felson

11-06-2007, 15:55	#19 (permalink)
allthethings God Punter Join Date: 02 Nov 2006 Location: In a van down by the river Age: 47 Posts: 2,023	Re: Sweden, Superettan 9 - 12/6 The lines are a reflection of the marketplace, usually in response to what bettors are doing...but I can suggest an alternative reason. If a book is taking nothing but Sirius bets, to cover themselves they can go to another book and bet on Landskrona to cover the +0.5 as a hedge. That is often the reason for a late surge the "wrong" way. __________________ "Get on me, Bert...I can't lose!" — Fast Eddie Felson

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