Royal League (30th Nov - 2nd Dec 2006) - The Punters Lounge

Galea78 · 28-11-2006, 17:47

Thursday 30 November 2006
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Brøndby v Hammarby (17:55 GMT)	2.01	3.60	4.20	102%
AIK Solna v Viborg (18:00 GMT)	1.83	3.65	5.00	102%
Lillestrøm v Copenhagen (18:30 GMT)	2.61	3.25	2.96	103%
Saturday 2 December 2006
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Elfsborg v Viborg (15:00 GMT)	1.02	1.01	1.01	297%

G:G · 29-11-2006, 12:38

Referring to older threads about RL: Hammarby does still have squad problems, it´s now also confirmed that wingback Stoor will leave for Rosenborg, in a deal were Hammarby prolong their contract with midfielder Eguren. Hammarby´s starting 11 looks pretty weak, and without knowing anything about Bröndbys start 11 I think that over 2 for Bröndby looks good.

G:G · 29-11-2006, 13:27

FCK will miss: Lars Jacobsen, Jesper Grønkjær, Tobias Linderoth and Marcus Allbäck. Also propably Michael Gravgaard, all this cause of next weeks Champions League game vs Celtic.

1. Jesper Christiansen
4. Hjalte Nørregaard
5. Brede Hangeland
8. Michael Silberbauer
9. Fredrik Berglund
13. Atiba Hutchinson
16. Dan Thomassen
17. Oscar Wendt
23. William Kvist
24. Jeppe Brandrup
26. Nikolaj Hansen
27. Martin Bernburg
28. Martin Bergvold
29. Lasse Qvist
30. Mads Laudrup
31. Benny Gall
33. Saban Özdogan

godmato · 30-11-2006, 08:52

This is good news and reflects the odd too big on FCK

tomerc · 30-11-2006, 09:20

[quote=G:G;645065]FCK will miss: Lars Jacobsen, Jesper Grønkjær, Tobias Linderoth and Marcus Allbäck. Also propably Michael Gravgaard, all this cause of next weeks Champions League game vs Celtic.

hi G:G!
take them absence, how do u see lillstrum chanse in this game?
how they taking this turny seriously? (fck head probably are in cl)
i got home win@2.3 at betway.com

ScorpioRed · 30-11-2006, 09:56

Where is our friend kimera ? He seems to be numero uno in this cup, last time he did pretty well...

kimera, help ua!

kimera · 30-11-2006, 10:59

Brøndby-Hammarby

Well, I know I haven`t been anything like positive towards Hammarby in the recent matches, but they have lost matches that others and I have predicted. Today They will loose again...

This are two teams going in oppsite directions. Brøndby, starting to get players and stability back after an awful season so far. Hammarby loosing some of their key players and striving to get good work done.

Hammarbys squad tonight:
24. Benny Lekström
2. David Johansson
3. Pétur Marteinsson
4. Fredrik Stoor
5. Eric Fischbein
8. Klebèr Saarenpää
13. Max von Schlebrügge
16. Gunnar Thor Gunnarsson
17. Erkan Zengin
18. Haris Laitinen
19. Paulinho
21. Jeffrey Aubynn
22. Sebastian Eguren
25. Sebastian Castro-Tello
26. Isak Dahlin
28. José Monteiro
29. Toni Nhleko
30. George Moussan

First goalie, Ante Covic has now left the club, which means Benny Lekstrøm is back between the posts. Last time he played, they lost 3-2 at home against Brøndby and his performance was not good at all. Petter Furuseth-Olsen, already assigned to Stabaek, but still under contract is out. Pablo Pinones-Arce is not on squad, still injured, he has been important getting goals for the away team this season. Full-back Fredrik Stoor is probably leaving for Rosenborg sometime in the near future. It is also worth mentioning that Toni Nhleko is doubtful. He is tired and has a lack of motivation. I wonder heavily who coach Gustavsson would be placing on top with Paulinho. The offensive part of the team are stripped from regular players, Aubynn as the only alternative, he being an offensive midfielder only. When assistant coach Åhlund was asked about the game I felt he was very vague, but wanted that the players would do their best in the "must win" situation they are in. Playing their 4th match in 12 days after a long and hard season have to have an affect on the players. We saw it away against Lillestrøm, they didn`t stand a chance loosing 2-0 getting their first oppourtunity late in the 2nd half. The team have to win this and I expect a team going for goals, but I can`t see anyone making them...

Now they play a slightly rejuvenated Brøndby away. They have got a week off, to work out and prepare well for this game. The team are in their break in the danish division and as mentioned Brøndby were bad, very bad according to their season predictions. The team has been hit by a large amount of injuries with key players out long-termly. Now many of them are ready to get into action.

Brøndbys squad tonight:
1. Casper Ankergren
16. Morten Cramer
4. Per Nielsen
5. Mark Howard
6. Marcus Lantz
9. Martin Retov
10. Martin Ericsson
11. Mads Jørgensen
12. Giovanni Rector
14. Joseph Elanga
18. Henrik Kildentoft
20. Asbjørn Sennels
22. Morten Rasmussen
23. Martin Spelmann
25. Hannes Sigurdsson
26. Mike Jensen
31. David Williams

Since last match, Morten Rasmussen, Mark Howard and Hannes Sigurdsson are back in the squad. Rasmussen, played his first 7 minutes last match in a long time. Tonight the important centre-back will get a lot more I believe. Mark Howard is also back, doing most of the hard work in the defence when missing a lot of players. That Hannes Sigurdsson is back is of major importance for Brøndby. He is a striker who really can make an impact in matches, and will definitely put more power up front. Brøndby will not let goals behind as easy as last time. Now their defence should be more stable then in many weeks. Also up front they have more abilities with Sigurdsson back in the game. It i quite interesting to know that all 3 goals Brøndby scored against Hammarby a week ago were came from midfielders. It would be different tonight. Coach Meuleensteen said that the are ready for this match, highly motivated and still not in danger of under-estimating Hammarby...

As a conclusion I believe several bets can be placed in this match. Looking at form, playing material and motivation there is no doubt in my mind, home win.

My bets:
Brøndby, straight win 1.96 @ betfair
Brøndby -0.5/-1 2.25 @ betfair
Brøndby HT/FT 3.30 @ betfair
Brøndby, first goal 1.71 @ betfair

Jonne · 30-11-2006, 12:08

I like the look of FCK at that price. Their defence is still decent (Wendt, Hangeland, Thomassen, Kvist or someone else,) better than most scandinavian teams. I'd still say FCK are slight favorites

kimera · 30-11-2006, 14:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonne

I like the look of FCK at that price. Their defence is still decent (Wendt, Hangeland, Thomassen, Kvist or someone else,) better than most scandinavian teams. I'd still say FCK are slight favorites

Have to agree a little bit with you there. Lillestrøm will miss Robert Koren who has played his last game ever for the home team. He has been the definite creative force on Lillestrøm with lots of goals and assists.

Ståle Solbakken, the coach for FCK is from Norway. He knows Lillestrøm very well, in a tactical perspective and players. He has made FCK the best team in scandinavia and that is a good effort.

This is a no bet from me in who to win, but I see two bets which I will choose for this one. 8 of 12 matches in royal league has ended with 3 goals or more and most teams are offensive minded, even if they play away. In 9 of 12 matches which have been played both teams have scored. Looking at the stats and the fact that teams are acting offensively I take these two for tonight in this match

My bets:
Over 2.5, 2.00 @ betsson
Both teams to score, 1.72 @ betuk

cluelessG · 30-11-2006, 15:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomerc

take them absence, how do u see lillstrum chanse in this game?
how they taking this turny seriously? (fck head probably are in cl)
i got home win@2.3 at betway.com

I don't get it. Why should FCK have only CL in their heads? They cannot qualify for the next stage of CL and they cannot qualify even for UEFA Cup. Well, they would love to get another home win in CL and they will even earn some money from it. They would also take pride in beating a well-known team such as Celtic. But that's about it. I feel they are likely to keep an eye on the Royal League as well.

kimera · 30-11-2006, 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by cluelessG

I don't get it. Why should FCK have only CL in their heads? They cannot qualify for the next stage of CL and they cannot qualify even for UEFA Cup. Well, they would love to get another home win in CL and they will even earn some money from it. They would also take pride in beating a well-known team such as Celtic. But that's about it. I feel they are likely to keep an eye on the Royal League as well.

Ståle Solbakken has mentioned that he is aware of the importance of royal league, using it as an example for good preparations for up comig matches. Backing up my thoughts are that FCK won this tourney last year, with Solbakken as their head coach...

G:G · 30-11-2006, 16:24

Good write ups, again, kimera . I´m with you on FCK over, will look for good odds for Bröndby, hoping that our "bet against" Hammarby tactic will pay off again. Great getting the insight about Lilleström, I´ll have to reconsider that one I think, and stay with only over.

GL all !

Jonne · 30-11-2006, 16:32

Not enough time to make a proper tip, but the value is on FC.

Sport	Football (Euro Cups)
Event	Lillestrøm - FCK
Selection	FCK
Strength	10/10
Date	30/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	Centrebet @ 3.20 (Back)
Reasoning	Grønkjær will be back for this match which will definately strenghten the squad for FCK. Value on the FCK-victory tonight in my eyes, as they are by far the strongest squad in Scandinavia and I really do not get that the bookies favorise Lillestrøm, who only became number 4 in Norway this season.

kimera · 30-11-2006, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonne

Not enough time to make a proper tip, but the value is on FC.

Sport	Football (Euro Cups)
Event	Lillestrøm - FCK
Selection	FCK
Strength	10/10
Date	30/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	Centrebet @ 3.20 (Back)
Reasoning	Grønkjær will be back for this match which will definately strenghten the squad for FCK. Value on the FCK-victory tonight in my eyes, as they are by far the strongest squad in Scandinavia and I really do not get that the bookies favorise Lillestrøm, who only became number 4 in Norway this season.

Nothing wrong in your thoughts, but I think it should be wise to mention that both striker Fredrik Berglund (18/7/18) and midfileder Martin Bergvold (13/2/18) will be out in the last minute because of sickness. With already Allback out there is a question who Solbakken will pair on top, both of their regular strikers out. Still I believe that there will be some goals in this game. In matches before the teams top strikers have been left out and still the team got goals. Close to kick-off, bets already set, we only have to wait and see...

G:G · 30-11-2006, 18:07

Bröndby 3-0 already

kimera · 30-11-2006, 18:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimera

Brøndby-Hammarby

Well, I know I haven`t been anything like positive towards Hammarby in the recent matches, but they have lost matches that others and I have predicted. Today They will loose again...

This are two teams going in oppsite directions. Brøndby, starting to get players and stability back after an awful season so far. Hammarby loosing some of their key players and striving to get good work done.

Hammarbys squad tonight:
24. Benny Lekström
2. David Johansson
3. Pétur Marteinsson
4. Fredrik Stoor
5. Eric Fischbein
8. Klebèr Saarenpää
13. Max von Schlebrügge
16. Gunnar Thor Gunnarsson
17. Erkan Zengin
18. Haris Laitinen
19. Paulinho
21. Jeffrey Aubynn
22. Sebastian Eguren
25. Sebastian Castro-Tello
26. Isak Dahlin
28. José Monteiro
29. Toni Nhleko
30. George Moussan

First goalie, Ante Covic has now left the club, which means Benny Lekstrøm is back between the posts. Last time he played, they lost 3-2 at home against Brøndby and his performance was not good at all. Petter Furuseth-Olsen, already assigned to Stabaek, but still under contract is out. Pablo Pinones-Arce is not on squad, still injured, he has been important getting goals for the away team this season. Full-back Fredrik Stoor is probably leaving for Rosenborg sometime in the near future. It is also worth mentioning that Toni Nhleko is doubtful. He is tired and has a lack of motivation. I wonder heavily who coach Gustavsson would be placing on top with Paulinho. The offensive part of the team are stripped from regular players, Aubynn as the only alternative, he being an offensive midfielder only. When assistant coach Åhlund was asked about the game I felt he was very vague, but wanted that the players would do their best in the "must win" situation they are in. Playing their 4th match in 12 days after a long and hard season have to have an affect on the players. We saw it away against Lillestrøm, they didn`t stand a chance loosing 2-0 getting their first oppourtunity late in the 2nd half. The team have to win this and I expect a team going for goals, but I can`t see anyone making them...

Now they play a slightly rejuvenated Brøndby away. They have got a week off, to work out and prepare well for this game. The team are in their break in the danish division and as mentioned Brøndby were bad, very bad according to their season predictions. The team has been hit by a large amount of injuries with key players out long-termly. Now many of them are ready to get into action.

Brøndbys squad tonight:
1. Casper Ankergren
16. Morten Cramer
4. Per Nielsen
5. Mark Howard
6. Marcus Lantz
9. Martin Retov
10. Martin Ericsson
11. Mads Jørgensen
12. Giovanni Rector
14. Joseph Elanga
18. Henrik Kildentoft
20. Asbjørn Sennels
22. Morten Rasmussen
23. Martin Spelmann
25. Hannes Sigurdsson
26. Mike Jensen
31. David Williams

Since last match, Morten Rasmussen, Mark Howard and Hannes Sigurdsson are back in the squad. Rasmussen, played his first 7 minutes last match in a long time. Tonight the important centre-back will get a lot more I believe. Mark Howard is also back, doing most of the hard work in the defence when missing a lot of players. That Hannes Sigurdsson is back is of major importance for Brøndby. He is a striker who really can make an impact in matches, and will definitely put more power up front. Brøndby will not let goals behind as easy as last time. Now their defence should be more stable then in many weeks. Also up front they have more abilities with Sigurdsson back in the game. It i quite interesting to know that all 3 goals Brøndby scored against Hammarby a week ago were came from midfielders. It would be different tonight. Coach Meuleensteen said that the are ready for this match, highly motivated and still not in danger of under-estimating Hammarby...

As a conclusion I believe several bets can be placed in this match. Looking at form, playing material and motivation there is no doubt in my mind, home win.

My bets:
Brøndby, straight win 1.96 @ betfair
Brøndby -0.5/-1 2.25 @ betfair
Brøndby HT/FT 3.30 @ betfair
Brøndby, first goal 1.71 @ betfair

48'

2ND

W ^[7] Brondby*
[1.875]

3 - 0
0.5

Hammarby ^[3

Well, what can I say? Brøndby surely doing the job i hoped them do do!

gurdjieff · 30-11-2006, 18:32

Thx Kimera for your excellent post on Brondby game.Went for the f/t h/t fairly large.Looking good at 3-0 with 10 mins to go. Hammerby 1 back as I post

kimera · 30-11-2006, 18:55

FT

W ^[7] Brondby*
[1.875]

3 - 1
0.5

Hammarby ^[3]

I like what I see!

Thanks for the response on my work btw...

Jonne · 30-11-2006, 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimera

Nothing wrong in your thoughts, but I think it should be wise to mention that both striker Fredrik Berglund (18/7/18) and midfileder Martin Bergvold (13/2/18) will be out in the last minute because of sickness. With already Allback out there is a question who Solbakken will pair on top, both of their regular strikers out. Still I believe that there will be some goals in this game. In matches before the teams top strikers have been left out and still the team got goals. Close to kick-off, bets already set, we only have to wait and see...

Aye, I just didn't have the time, as I was actually on work, was splendid value so had to post the tip :p

tomerc · 30-11-2006, 21:12

1

Lillestrøm Sk - Fc København
Int - Royal League, Group 2
Win/Draw/Win
Start Time : 2006-11-30 19:30:00

2.10

Win

1

Brøndby If - Hammarby IF
Int - Royal League, Group 2
Win/Draw/Win
Start Time : 2006-11-30 18:55:00

1.85

Win

thank u all for great posts!!
looking for more like this

29-11-2006, 12:38	#2 (permalink)
G:G _GNAGET_ Join Date: 06 Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm Posts: 3,141	Re: Royal League (30th Nov - 2nd Dec 2006) Referring to older threads about RL: Hammarby does still have squad problems, it´s now also confirmed that wingback Stoor will leave for Rosenborg, in a deal were Hammarby prolong their contract with midfielder Eguren. Hammarby´s starting 11 looks pretty weak, and without knowing anything about Bröndbys start 11 I think that over 2 for Bröndby looks good. __________________ Politics is the same everywhere, doesn't matter how he labels himself, there's always this wank*r waiting to tell you what to do and think, tell you that you never had it so good, never had it so bad.

29-11-2006, 13:27	#3 (permalink)
G:G _GNAGET_ Join Date: 06 Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm Posts: 3,141	Re: Royal League (30th Nov - 2nd Dec 2006) FCK will miss: Lars Jacobsen, Jesper Grønkjær, Tobias Linderoth and Marcus Allbäck. Also propably Michael Gravgaard, all this cause of next weeks Champions League game vs Celtic. 1. Jesper Christiansen 4. Hjalte Nørregaard 5. Brede Hangeland 8. Michael Silberbauer 9. Fredrik Berglund 13. Atiba Hutchinson 16. Dan Thomassen 17. Oscar Wendt 23. William Kvist 24. Jeppe Brandrup 26. Nikolaj Hansen 27. Martin Bernburg 28. Martin Bergvold 29. Lasse Qvist 30. Mads Laudrup 31. Benny Gall 33. Saban Özdogan __________________ Politics is the same everywhere, doesn't matter how he labels himself, there's always this wank*r waiting to tell you what to do and think, tell you that you never had it so good, never had it so bad.

30-11-2006, 08:52	#4 (permalink)
godmato Legendary Punter Join Date: 19 Sep 2006 Location: Romania, Bucuresti Posts: 1,366	Re: Royal League (30th Nov - 2nd Dec 2006) This is good news and reflects the odd too big on FCK __________________ Peace sells, but who's buying?

30-11-2006, 09:20	#5 (permalink)
tomerc Senior Punter Join Date: 28 Jul 2006 Age: 40 Posts: 146	Re: Royal League (30th Nov - 2nd Dec 2006) [quote=G:G;645065]FCK will miss: Lars Jacobsen, Jesper Grønkjær, Tobias Linderoth and Marcus Allbäck. Also propably Michael Gravgaard, all this cause of next weeks Champions League game vs Celtic. hi G:G! take them absence, how do u see lillstrum chanse in this game? how they taking this turny seriously? (fck head probably are in cl) i got home win@2.3 at betway.com

30-11-2006, 09:56	#6 (permalink)
ScorpioRed Shrewdie Punter Join Date: 27 Oct 2006 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 566	Re: Royal League (30th Nov - 2nd Dec 2006) Where is our friend kimera ? He seems to be numero uno in this cup, last time he did pretty well... kimera, help ua!

30-11-2006, 10:59	#7 (permalink)
kimera Value punter Join Date: 21 Mar 2006 Location: Norway Age: 29 Posts: 1,211	Re: Royal League (30th Nov - 2nd Dec 2006) Brøndby-Hammarby Well, I know I haven`t been anything like positive towards Hammarby in the recent matches, but they have lost matches that others and I have predicted. Today They will loose again... This are two teams going in oppsite directions. Brøndby, starting to get players and stability back after an awful season so far. Hammarby loosing some of their key players and striving to get good work done. Hammarbys squad tonight: 24. Benny Lekström 2. David Johansson 3. Pétur Marteinsson 4. Fredrik Stoor 5. Eric Fischbein 8. Klebèr Saarenpää 13. Max von Schlebrügge 16. Gunnar Thor Gunnarsson 17. Erkan Zengin 18. Haris Laitinen 19. Paulinho 21. Jeffrey Aubynn 22. Sebastian Eguren 25. Sebastian Castro-Tello 26. Isak Dahlin 28. José Monteiro 29. Toni Nhleko 30. George Moussan First goalie, Ante Covic has now left the club, which means Benny Lekstrøm is back between the posts. Last time he played, they lost 3-2 at home against Brøndby and his performance was not good at all. Petter Furuseth-Olsen, already assigned to Stabaek, but still under contract is out. Pablo Pinones-Arce is not on squad, still injured, he has been important getting goals for the away team this season. Full-back Fredrik Stoor is probably leaving for Rosenborg sometime in the near future. It is also worth mentioning that Toni Nhleko is doubtful. He is tired and has a lack of motivation. I wonder heavily who coach Gustavsson would be placing on top with Paulinho. The offensive part of the team are stripped from regular players, Aubynn as the only alternative, he being an offensive midfielder only. When assistant coach Åhlund was asked about the game I felt he was very vague, but wanted that the players would do their best in the "must win" situation they are in. Playing their 4th match in 12 days after a long and hard season have to have an affect on the players. We saw it away against Lillestrøm, they didn`t stand a chance loosing 2-0 getting their first oppourtunity late in the 2nd half. The team have to win this and I expect a team going for goals, but I can`t see anyone making them... Now they play a slightly rejuvenated Brøndby away. They have got a week off, to work out and prepare well for this game. The team are in their break in the danish division and as mentioned Brøndby were bad, very bad according to their season predictions. The team has been hit by a large amount of injuries with key players out long-termly. Now many of them are ready to get into action. Brøndbys squad tonight: 1. Casper Ankergren 16. Morten Cramer 4. Per Nielsen 5. Mark Howard 6. Marcus Lantz 9. Martin Retov 10. Martin Ericsson 11. Mads Jørgensen 12. Giovanni Rector 14. Joseph Elanga 18. Henrik Kildentoft 20. Asbjørn Sennels 22. Morten Rasmussen 23. Martin Spelmann 25. Hannes Sigurdsson 26. Mike Jensen 31. David Williams Since last match, Morten Rasmussen, Mark Howard and Hannes Sigurdsson are back in the squad. Rasmussen, played his first 7 minutes last match in a long time. Tonight the important centre-back will get a lot more I believe. Mark Howard is also back, doing most of the hard work in the defence when missing a lot of players. That Hannes Sigurdsson is back is of major importance for Brøndby. He is a striker who really can make an impact in matches, and will definitely put more power up front. Brøndby will not let goals behind as easy as last time. Now their defence should be more stable then in many weeks. Also up front they have more abilities with Sigurdsson back in the game. It i quite interesting to know that all 3 goals Brøndby scored against Hammarby a week ago were came from midfielders. It would be different tonight. Coach Meuleensteen said that the are ready for this match, highly motivated and still not in danger of under-estimating Hammarby... As a conclusion I believe several bets can be placed in this match. Looking at form, playing material and motivation there is no doubt in my mind, home win. My bets: Brøndby, straight win 1.96 @ betfair Brøndby -0.5/-1 2.25 @ betfair Brøndby HT/FT 3.30 @ betfair Brøndby, first goal 1.71 @ betfair Last edited by kimera; 30-11-2006 at 11:02.

30-11-2006, 12:08	#8 (permalink)
Jonne Danish Punter Join Date: 20 May 2006 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark. Age: 19 Posts: 977	Re: Royal League (30th Nov - 2nd Dec 2006) I like the look of FCK at that price. Their defence is still decent (Wendt, Hangeland, Thomassen, Kvist or someone else,) better than most scandinavian teams. I'd still say FCK are slight favorites

30-11-2006, 16:24	#12 (permalink)
G:G _GNAGET_ Join Date: 06 Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm Posts: 3,141	Re: Royal League (30th Nov - 2nd Dec 2006) Good write ups, again, kimera . I´m with you on FCK over, will look for good odds for Bröndby, hoping that our "bet against" Hammarby tactic will pay off again. Great getting the insight about Lilleström, I´ll have to reconsider that one I think, and stay with only over. GL all ! __________________ Politics is the same everywhere, doesn't matter how he labels himself, there's always this wank*r waiting to tell you what to do and think, tell you that you never had it so good, never had it so bad.

30-11-2006, 18:07	#15 (permalink)
G:G _GNAGET_ Join Date: 06 Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm Posts: 3,141	Re: Royal League (30th Nov - 2nd Dec 2006) Bröndby 3-0 already __________________ Politics is the same everywhere, doesn't matter how he labels himself, there's always this wank*r waiting to tell you what to do and think, tell you that you never had it so good, never had it so bad.

30-11-2006, 18:32	#17 (permalink)
gurdjieff Seasoned Punter Join Date: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 461	Re: Royal League (30th Nov - 2nd Dec 2006) Thx Kimera for your excellent post on Brondby game.Went for the f/t h/t fairly large.Looking good at 3-0 with 10 mins to go. Hammerby 1 back as I post Last edited by gurdjieff; 30-11-2006 at 18:33.

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