Turkey - Super Ligi (Nov 18)

[vasily]

Sport	Football (Turkey)
Event	Sakarayaspor-Ankaragücü
Selection	Under 2,5
Strength	9/10
Date	18/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	Betfair @ 1.73 (Back)
Reasoning	All the creative players are out of the pitch today.Sakaryaspor's best player Cangele is still out.Sakarya shows nothing without him. Also Ankaragücü misses explosive striker Eder and creative midfielder Ceyhun.These two teams often end game under 2,5.Today i expect another under.Good luck.

[vasily]

sorry!!! I made a mistake.Eder is Konya's forward.But i'm still sure about under 2,5

[YAMAN]

Originally Posted by adythom

Excellent write-ups Robijas - I think that any run out for a small team player in his national team strip will be a boost to confidence - and you are just as welcome to voice your opinions as anyone else!

that said -in the matches just after a national debut a players head can be in the clouds for while!

Didnt you like my write-ups Adythom ?

Anyway, my friend, you are being subjective Adythom.

Trabzon is not a small team. And two players whom played 5-10 minutes in a national team can not be shown as a reason to back a team like Robijas did. These players are always choosen to the national team and this was not their first time, so, they are not young players to be effected in a positive way just by getting choosed to national team.

Also, Gökdeniz was shown one of the reasons for Trabzonspor's bad going by Robijas. Totally opossite !!! He was the only man who played good in last weeks.

Again, not an opinion, wrong info.

I have nothing against Robijas and respect his effort and work, but wrong and misleading infos never be welcomed.

Saying opinions is always welcomed ofcourse, but, giving a wrong and misleading info is not.

[aimar21]

Genclerbirligi 4-1 Konyaspor
Kayserispor 2-2 V.Manisaspor
Sakaryaspor 0-0 Ankaragucu

[adythom]

Originally Posted by YAMAN

Didnt you like my write-ups Adythom ?

Anyway, my friend, you are being subjective Adythom.

Trabzon is not a small team. And two players whom played 5-10 minutes in a national team can not be shown as a reason to back a team like Robijas did. These players are always choosen to the national team and this was not their first time, so, they are not young players to be effected in a positive way just by getting choosed to national team.

Also, Gökdeniz was shown one of the reasons for Trabzonspor's bad going by Robijas. Totally opossite !!! He was the only man who played good in last weeks.

Again, not an opinion, wrong info.

I have nothing against Robijas and respect his effort and work, but wrong and misleading infos never be welcomed.

Saying opinions is always welcomed ofcourse, but, giving a wrong and misleading info is not.

I didn't think you needed any more encouragement YAMAN

I agree with the sentiment of your post, of course though I thought the language a little strong -perhaps?

anyway keep up the good work mate

and of course I appreciate your work here - as much as everyone else!

[YAMAN]

Originally Posted by adythom

I didn't think you needed any more encouragement YAMAN

I agree with the sentiment of your post, of course though I thought the language a little strong -perhaps?

anyway keep up the good work mate

and of course I appreciate your work here - as much as everyone else!

Thx I always see that Robijas doing good effort. But, someone who does not know good enough about Turkey can very well be misleaded by that mistake.

Anyway, I like it here very much and cheers to Robijas and all

[aimar21]

Fenerbahce - Besiktas (+0.75)

Fenerbahce, after changing their system, started getting nice results and scoring goals. Deivid got on form and he started scoring also. They only disappointed last week against Denizlispor away. They didnt even have any goal positions and played terrible. But i dont see that continueing today. Mehmet Aurelio didnt start in the first eleven recently which was a terrible mistake imo from zico. now i saw that he is playing and together with appiah they could close besiktas midfield which seems their only danger. also it is said that although kezman is ready deivid will be in the first eleven and if kezman starts in the first eleven deivid will start as right winger. after all its the system that matters and its good for fener. experienced left back umit ozat is also in the first eleven today which i think is a good decision because of experience. goalkeeper rustu finished the season with injury and volkan has been really out of form which could effect fener in a bad way.

probables : volkan, onder, edu, lugano, umit, appiah, aurelio, tumer, tuncay, alex, deivid

Besiktas on the other hand is just failing and failing. they are like cursed this season but they didnt miss the championship yet. they still have enough points to keep up with the championship. but my friends who support besiktas have lost faith in the team generally. they just believe their team for this match because they dont lose to fener in kadikoy for a long time. this psychological thing could be very important for besiktas today. bobo and ali gunes wont play because of injury.

probables: runje , a.tandogan, i.toraman, g.zan, i.uzulmez, koray, serdar, ricardinho, kleberson, delgado, nobre

note : fenerbahce player tumer and besiktas player nobre will play against their ex-teams. they both say they will do their best

My prediction for this game is 'series dont last forever'. i think in this game fenerbahce can never catch besiktas like this and they will end the serie of besiktas.

pick: fenerbahce (-0.75)
odds: 2.02
conf: 5/10

[aimar21]

rizespor - k. erciyesspor (+0.5)

I still dont believe rizespor although they got good results. I watched the games against trabzonspor and galatasaray which rizespor both won and they were both due to their luck. especially galatasaray played a on-side match the whole second half and couldnt score. I think they only play good against open-defenses, they lack the quality to be the favourites.

probables: zdravkov, yasin, bashir, tolga, victoria, serhat,hasan,tijkuzu, emrah, altan, dia cire

Erciyes is a side that I trusted recently but they failed everytime even ATS. I don't think their squad deserve results this bad. they are gonna get a good result soon and im gonna keep backing them especially against a weak opponent like this with this ball.

probables: fadhel, omer or mehmet, zafer, djalovic, timucin, mustafa or serge die, fatih, ozgur, cem, ilhan, cenk

pick : erciyes (+0.5)
odds: 2.08
confidence : 3/10

[aimar21]

Bursaspor - Denizlispor (0.25)

Bursaspor is red hot with their new coach engin ipekogl. They seem in great form but I don't know when it will end. they have been struggling at home to make their fans happy just until they trashed manisaspor 4-0. After that result they should be scary to denizlispor. I don't see zafer biryol in the line-up but sinan and burak should do the trick against denizli.

Denizlispor is also getting good results which suprise me actually. I think they are not a solid team and their results are mostly dependant. they are not bad away from home actually but now they face bursaspor who has great fans and are on a seriously good form. denizli again will try not to concede and try to do things with Yusuf. They have a hard task here and with this handicap I can gladly take Bursa.

Pick : Bursaspor (-0.25)
Odds : 1.8
confidence : 5/10

[aimar21]

Ankaraspor - Gaziantepspor (0.5)

Ankaraspor got their so-long missed three points last week against manisaspor and have been drawing 6 of their last 8 games. They dont lose but they cant win. Which I think will be the same situation here. Ankaraspor are not that great to become such favourites against a strong Gaziantepspor. An Ankaraspor win is not such an easy thing to see this season you can even use martingale system on ankaraspor and get rich believe me .

Gaziantepspor lost 2 straight against fener away and bursa at home. they should be unhappy about the bursa game and play more motivated here to earn the points they missed at home. They are a solid defensive team which I think Ankaraspor will have trouble breaking down. And they got good strikers that can score when they get the ball. I also see Diawara in the line-up who is a great forward imo. I think Antep will get at least a point.

Pick : Gaziantepspor (+0.5)
Odds: 1.82
Conf: 3/10

[aimar21]

Sivasspor - Trabzonspor match is a no bet for me because I really cant trust Trabzonspor this week. I will start backing them decently after their first win.

GL for today mates

[aimar21]

Ankaraspor 2-0 Gaziantepspor
Bursaspor 1-0 Denizlispor
Fenerbahce 0-0 Besiktas
Rizespor 0-0 Erciyesspor
Sivasspor 1-0 Trabzonspor

[Robijas]

Hello friends...

Good job Aimar and Yaman....
It could be a very profitable weekend from turkish football but i had too mach on Trabzonspor double chance and Trabzon to win..

Sivas - Trabzonspor 1-0 FT
Ballilli 73th minute

I donkt know what is going with Trabzonspor.I lost a lot of my money on them,expecialy in away games.So i just want now to see them next season to play against A.Sebatspor and Usakspor.And two season latter with yimpas yozgat and Adanaspor in 3th league..

I just wanna say:

You're banned for a week for offensive comments RObijas. Any more and you're gone for good. Be warned

[El NihiL]

not a place to curse and swear here (especially swearinG to all people from a part of a country)....
even in your native language
even the person is a respectable tipster...

Wise betting starts when we learn losing mates..

Mods please do your jobs

[vasily]

Originally Posted by Robijas

Offensive comments removed by davidmphill
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Hey dude,that's very aggressive and rude behaviour.You shouldn't attack a person like that.Also you can not curse all black sea region.This is not fair.
And you should know that this is a football.Everything may happen.Moreover at trabzon's this bad situation.Please be careful with your comments.Now i want moderators to do something now.This forum is for knowledge and friendship.I think there should be no room for people like you.

[BillyHills]

The common language on the Punters Lounge is English.

Robijas can you please refrain from replying to threads in any other language please or they will be deleted.

Thanks

[vasily]

Offensive comment made by Robijas removed by davidmphill

Translation guys.

[heniek31]

As we dont know what really was said, could some one who can translate this, just PM one of mods with it. It might be to offensive for many more people if in English. We will deal with it accordingly. Cheers.

[heniek31]

To late by seconds .

[vasily]

thnx friends for your attention.I know you will do what robijas deserves.