Turkey - Super Ligi (Nov 18)

[davidmphill]

Saturday 18 November 2006
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Ankaraspor v Gaziantepspor (17:00 GMT)	2.02	3.33	3.50	109%	Related markets...Match ResultHalf-time/Full-time- - -Correct ScoreAway Team To ScoreDraw No BetFirst Team to ScoreHalf with Most GoalsHalf-time ResultHandicap ResultOver/UnderTeams To ScoreTotal Goals
Antalyaspor v Galatasaray (17:00 GMT)	5.21	3.69	1.80	102%	Related markets...Match ResultHalf-time/Full-time- - -Correct ScoreAway Team To ScoreDraw No BetFirst Goal TimeFirst Team to ScoreHalf with Most GoalsHalf-time Correct ScoreHalf-time ResultHandicap ResultHome Team First Goal TimeLast Goal TimeLast Team to ScoreOver/UnderSecond Goal TimeTeams To ScoreTotal Goals
Bursaspor v Denizlispor (17:00 GMT)	2.10	3.34	3.40	107%	Related markets...Match ResultHalf-time/Full-time- - -Correct ScoreAway Team To ScoreDraw No BetFirst Team to ScoreHalf with Most GoalsHalf-time ResultHandicap ResultOver/UnderTeams To ScoreTotal Goals
Caykur Rizespor v Erciyesspor (17:00 GMT)	1.80	3.54	4.56	106%	Related markets...Match ResultHalf-time/Full-time- - -Correct ScoreAway Team To ScoreDraw No BetFirst Team to ScoreHalf with Most GoalsHalf-time ResultHandicap ResultOver/UnderTeams To ScoreTotal Goals
Fenerbahçe v Besiktas (17:00 GMT)	1.67	3.54	4.75	109%	Related markets...Match ResultHalf-time/Full-timeCorrect Score- - -First GoalscorerAway Team First Goal TimeAway Team To ScoreDraw No BetFirst Goal TimeFirst Team to ScoreHalf with Most GoalsHalf-time Correct ScoreHalf-time ResultHandicap ResultHome Team First Goal TimeKick-OffLast Goal TimeLast Team to ScoreOver/UnderSecond Goal TimeTeams To ScoreTotal Goals
Gençlerbirligi v Konyaspor (17:00 GMT)	2.20	3.25	3.13	109%	Related markets...Match ResultHalf-time/Full-time- - -Correct ScoreAway Team To ScoreDraw No BetFirst Team to ScoreHalf with Most GoalsHalf-time ResultHandicap ResultOver/UnderTeams To ScoreTotal Goals
Kayserispor v Vestel Manisaspor (17:00 GMT)	1.87	3.44	4.50	105%	Related markets...Match ResultHalf-time/Full-time- - -Correct ScoreAway Team First Goal TimeAway Team To ScoreDraw No BetFirst Goal TimeFirst Team to ScoreHalf with Most GoalsHalf-time Correct ScoreHalf-time ResultHandicap ResultHome Team First Goal TimeLast Goal TimeLast Team to ScoreOver/UnderSecond Goal TimeTeams To ScoreTotal Goals
Sakaryaspor v Ankaragücü (17:00 GMT)	2.48	3.25	2.65	109%	Related markets...Match ResultHalf-time/Full-time- - -Correct ScoreAway Team To ScoreDraw No BetFirst Team to ScoreHalf with Most GoalsHalf-time ResultHandicap ResultOver/UnderTeams To ScoreTotal Goals
Sivasspor v Trabzonspor (17:00 GMT)	3.04	3.25	2.25	109%	Related markets...Match ResultHalf-time/Full-time- - -Correct ScoreAway Team First Goal TimeAway Team To ScoreDraw No BetFirst Goal TimeFirst Team to ScoreHalf with Most GoalsHalf-time Correct ScoreHalf-time ResultHandicap ResultHome Team First Goal TimeLast Goal TimeLast Team to ScoreOver/UnderSecond Goal TimeTeams To ScoreTotal Goals

[Robijas]

Event	Antalyaspor - Galatasaray SK
Selection	Galatasaray to win
Strength	10/10
Date	18/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	Ladbrokes @ 1.80 (Back)
Reasoning	Before very important game for them against Bordeaux wich will bellow close history of Galatasaray,this team from Istanbul play in Antalta. Galatasaray is on the 3th place with 21 point and Antalya is on the 15th position with 14 points in 14 games. This week Fener wich lead in turkish league play at home against Besiktas in local derby, so this is reason more why i bet here on Galatasaray.They are 6 points behind Fener at this moment. Galatasaray have 8 wins and two draws against Antalya in last 10 meetings.I dont bolive that GS after poor 1-2 in RIze will lose again.They were strong at home in alst round wheb they beat Sakaryaspor with 4-0

[Robijas]

Event	Sivasspor - Trabzonspor
Selection	Trabzon to win
Strength	10/10
Date	19/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	Centrebet @ 2.40 (Back)
Reasoning	Well Trabzon is bigest suprise in turkish premier league til now.They have big names as Marcelinho, Gokdeziz, Ersen Martin, Yattara and another but they play very poor,actually without any resul.Bigest reason for that is Gokdeniz wich played very poor and without any long tear stability.But finally i watched last night game between Italy and Turkey and saw that few players from Trabzon wich play in national team play good and have big moral.So i will give a chance to Trabzon here to win.They have just 1-1-4 in 6 away games wich played and have 6-11 goals diference.They won only over Besiktas in Istanbul and that was strange result too.Trabzon have just 16 points in 13 games but just 5 of that 13 points won in away games. Sivas is behind Trabzon on 14th place so this game is very important for both teams.Sivas have great win from Istanbul over Besiktas (1-0) in last round but also they lost 0-4 at home against reserves of Fenerbahce,so that win over Besiktas can be wrong calculator of performance of Sivas. Next two games are very hard for Trabzon.They will play at home against Fener and then away in Bursa.I can not imagine that this team will soo be on the last place in league.I ecpect a high performance here from them and finally three points from road

[Robijas]

Event	Fenerbahce-Besiktas
Selection	Both teams to score in the game
Strength	10/10
Date	19/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	BetandWin @ 1.60 (Back)
Reasoning	Derby games in Istanbul between Fenerbahce,Galatasaray or Besiktas are always something special.Every game is important and no matters how many points teams have or in wich competetion they play.Every team want to win in Istanbul.This time Fener wich is leading in league with 27 points play at Sukru Saracoglu stadium against Besiktas wich is on the 4th place with 21 points. This derby can be called Tumer against Nobre coz befor start of this season one of Feners best players in last years Nobre signed for Besiktas,On the another side,curently ofne of the bigest turkish football players Tumer came from Besiktas to Fenerbahce. Besiktas comes into this game in very bad situation.They lost both games in cup uefa and 15 days latter will play in istanbul against Club Brugge in must win situation already.Also they lost last home game against Sivas (0-1) in Istanbul.To be worest they didnt win in last 4 games wich played.Fener also comes into this game against poor 0-0 in Denizli. So both temas didnt score in last game.I expect here any result with many goals.Both teams will score.Besiktas attack is strong to score against poor Feners defence.This game is opet for all results but first of all i think that both teams will score in this game.Finally you can see that in last 7 games betwwen this two teams in every game both teams scored: May 03, 2006 Fenerbahçe Besiktas 2 - 2 Feb 26, 2006 Fenerbahçe Besiktas 2 - 2 Sep 18, 2005 Besiktas Fenerbahçe 1 - 2 Apr 17, 2005 Fenerbahçe Besiktas 3 - 4 Oct 30, 2004 Besiktas Fenerbahçe 2 - 1 Apr 25, 2004 Besiktas Fenerbahçe 1 - 3 Nov 30, 2003 Fenerbahçe Besiktas 2 - 2

[Robijas]

Event	Kayserispor - Vestel Manisaspor
Selection	-0.5:0 away win (Asian Handicap)
Strength	10/10
Date	18/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	Pinnacle Sports @ 1.88 (Back)
Reasoning	This can be end of Ersun Yanals dreams wich is selector of Vestel Manisa. Long time they were first in the league and didnt lost ang game in first 8 rounds. i didnt predict that they will win league this year even they were unbeaten and 6 points over Fenerbahce.I predicted that will lose one game before derby with Fener and that will not win that game over Fener in Manisa too.But i could not predict that from that first defeat against Sivas (2-3 away) will lose all next 4 games in league and one game in cup against Konyaspor too (0-1).So after 13 rounds thet have 23 points and still are just 4 points behind Fener.But Galatasaray and Besiktas wich have 21 are behind Manisa.Kayseri too wich is on the 5th place with 19 points.So we have two derbies this week.Fener-Besiktas and Kayseri-Manisa.In this stituation with new three points this round will be best for Galatasaray. Manisa may not lose here.If they lose everything for them is over. Kayserispor after eliminated in cup uefa had a results cris but in laste round after 2 wind and two draws everything seems ok in this club again.They have two wins in last two home games,one in cup over erciyes(3-1) and another against Bursa (2-0). Last year Kayseri won 7-2 over Manisa and that was big shame for Manisa.I bolive that Ersun Yanal is able to make suprise here.They will have some missings in team coz in last home game had two red cards.But stil Kayseri can not be favourite here.I will take Manisa with +0.5 goals here

[Robijas]

Event	Ankaraspor - Gaziantepspor
Selection	-0.5:0 away win (Asian Handicap)
Strength	10/10
Date	19/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	Bet365 @ 1.82 (Back)
Reasoning	Ankaraspor is on the 7 position with 18 points.Gaziantep is on the 11th position with 11 points.Ankaraspor have intresting 1-5-0 at home and 9-8.They have 6 draws in last 8 games and that is not normal.They also drawed in last three home games.They are coming into this game after suprisely 3-1 over Manisa in Manisa but i need to say that Manisa had two red cards so this win can not impresed me so mach.Gaziantep wich played strong and great football in last month is coming into this game after teo defeats in a row in league games (1-4 in Istanbul against Fener and 1-2 against Bursa at home in last round).They won 5-0 over Inegolspor in cup but that was training game. Ankaraspor and Gaziantep played 4 games in previously seasons and Gaziantep won just one of them. So this game can probably finish as draw and both side will be happy with that resul.But as i said Ankaraspor have 6 draws in last 8 games.Also they didnt lost any game at home.Gaziantep is strong team and comes after two games wich lost.Best option for me here is to take Gaziantep with +0.5 goal

[Robijas]

Another games for me are opet for all results, expecially Rize-Erciyes where Rize can not be so big favourites as odds show ,but stil need to win that game.This game is no bet for me.
Sakarya-Ankaragucu game is also open for any kind of results.
Bursaapor - Denizli and Genclerbirligi- Konyaspor games are close to 1x but i can not see any value in that 1.25 or 1.30.It is hard expect that Dezizli or Konya will win in this road games.As i said best options are 1x,expecially in Bursa game coz Bursa next two games play against Besiktas (away) and Trabzon (home).
I think that is all from me for turkish first league this week.I will look little on second league now.Good Luck

[YAMAN]

Originally Posted by Robijas

Robijas!!!!!!!!!!

How can you mislead people like that man ? Only 2 players were choosen to national team from Trabzonspor .They were Gökdeniz and Hüseyin.And none of them played good. Hüseyin attend the game in 85 th minute !!!
Gökdeniz in the 75th minute!!!

None of the players had time to re-gain morale or none of them did anything speacial to re-gain morale.

Besides, Gökdeniz was the best player of Trabzon in the last weeks.

I really cant beleive how can you do a misleading like that ? Please be carefull!!!

[YAMAN]

Sport	Football (Turkey)
Event	Kayserispor v Vestel Manisaspor
Selection	V.Manisaspor DNB
Strength	10/10
Date	18/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	SportingBet @ 3.00 (Back)
Reasoning	I will trust Vestel one more time here. They can start winning anytime. They have a better squad here. Kayseri lost teh ability of scoring after losing Gökhan to injury and Vestel can do teh magic any second after losing several weeks in a row. And odds @3.00 for Vestel DNB is too much.

Sport	Football (Turkey)
Event	Sakaryaspor v Ankaragücü
Selection	Sakaryaspor DNB
Strength	10/10
Date	18/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	SportingBet @ 1.75 (Back)
Reasoning	I think this is a great bet. Ankaragücü will miss important defenders Da Siva, Sedat and the star player Ceyhun will be out because of being banned. This is a very big loss for them. I don’t know how they can win without these players. Sakarya will miss Capuuro and most probbaly Cangele whic are important missings too. Still, Sakarya needs this win much more than Ankaragücü and I beleive in the trainer of Sakarya Niejat Biyediç. After a very tight game, I expect Sakaray to win or at least not to lose where our money will be refunded.

Sport	Football (Turkey)
Event	Antalyaspor v Galatasaray
Selection	Galatasaray
Strength	10/10
Date	18/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	SportingBet @ 1.80 (Back)
Reasoning	Last week against Trabzon , Antalyaspor played worse than I expected and they may start losing the spirit they have.This is very important. If they lose that, they will have big problems. In a week where Galatasaray's biggest opponnet mmet Beşiktaş, Galatasaray will be extra motivated and they have all the ability to win here. And teh defense is getting better day by day Arda played an amazing game against Italy in international team and this will most probably effect his play in a very good way against Antalya. Also, Hasan Kabze - forward who saved Galatasary last year with several goals is back in form and play very well lately. I am confident that, easy or hard, Galatasary will manage to win.

Sport	Football (Turkey)
Event	Ankaraspor v Gaziantepspor
Selection	Ankaraspor DNB
Strength	10/10
Date	19/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	SportingBet @ 1.45 (Back)
Reasoning	Pretty sure and safe bet. Ankaraspor is in very good form. They lost only 1 game since the beginning and I really cant see them losing to Gaziantep especially when they are in top form.

Sport	Football (Turkey)
Event	Sivasspor v Trabzonspor
Selection	Trabzonspor DNB
Strength	10/10
Date	19/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	SportingBet @ 1.66 (Back)
Reasoning	Even Trabzonspor are having bad days, their squad is much more better than Sivasspor.They deserved to win last week against Antalyaspor and can start winning anytime. should be very ambitious to win imo since besides not winning, they did not even score in last 4 weeks. I will trust them again.

Sport	Football (Turkey)
Event	Fenerbahçe v Beşiktaş
Selection	Fenerbahçe
Strength	10/10
Date	19/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	Interwetten @ 1.80 (Back)
Reasoning	Ok, I admit, this is a derby and anything can happen. But, this Fenerbahçe is too much for Beşiktaş imo. Players they have are too much to control for Beşiktaş. Will Beşiktaş defend Alex or Kezman or Tuncay or Deivid or Appiah or Tümer or even Ümit Özat ? I beleive that Beşiktaş players don’t like Tigana. And even it’s not on purpose, I doubt if Beşiktaş players will be able to give their all in this match, at least mentally. Most of the people expect another suprise from Beşiktaş like they did last year but I dont think it will happen this time. Fener to win for me.

Sport	Football (Turkey)
Event	Bursaspor v Denizlispor
Selection	Draw
Strength	10/10
Date	19/11/2006
Bookmaker/Price	Expekt @ 3.35 (Back)
Reasoning	I dont need to wait the last news for this game. Both teams are in really good mood and both teams are too good to lose at the moment. Bursaspor will miss important defender Egemen and important midfield player Sumulioski. Denizlispor has no important injuries sinc e the long term injuries like Oliviera (M) , Selahattin Kinalı (F), Julio Cesar (M)doesnt effect the team and Denizli is doing great even without them. Bursa won 2 games in a row and its hard to see tham losing at home infront of the fans in the Bursa Atatürk Stadium which is one of the hottest place in Turkey. On the other hand Denizlispor is doing great and they didnt lose in last 5 weeks and I dont see any reason for tehm to lose in Bursa. We should not afraid to bet on draw here. Its one of the three possible results in a game. And under these conditions draw is the most logical and possible outcome here.

[godmato]

Great write up! I like last one with the draw. Odds are good and i think will finishg 1-1

[davidmphill]

Great work guys.
Always good to see YAMAN's thoughts. Good to have back buddy.