Bulgaria APFG ( 3-4 November ) - The Punters Lounge

*Tosh* · 01-11-2007, 15:25

Saturday 3 November 2007
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Marek Dupnitsa v CSKA Sofia (12:00 GMT)	8.40	4.60	1.44	103%
Pirin Blagoevgrad v Levski Sofia (12:15 GMT)	6.00	4.00	1.52	108%
Beroe v Belasitsa Petrich (12:30 GMT)	1.44	4.33	6.50	108%
Cherno more Varna v Vihren Sandanski (12:30 GMT)	1.45	4.20	7.50	107%
Lokomotiv Plovdiv v Litex Lovech (12:30 GMT)	2.75	3.60	2.25	109%
Lokomotiv Sofia v Vidima-Rakovski (12:30 GMT)	1.12	9.00	21.00	106%
Sunday 4 November 2007
	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
Botev Plovdiv v Chernomorets B (12:30 GMT)	1.66	3.75	4.75	108%
Slavia Sofia v Spartak Varna (12:30 GMT)	1.30	5.00	9.00	109%

raviolinaoli · 01-11-2007, 18:02

slavia - spartak - trebe da se vnimava

raviolinaoli · 01-11-2007, 18:04

CSKA - 2
LEVSKI - 2
CHERNO MORE - 1
100 % SURE BETS

Tulenos · 01-11-2007, 21:22

@ raviolinaoli - can you please post in English and include some reasoning behind your fancies/bets? 100 % sure bets doesn't look like reasoning of any value

raviolinaoli · 02-11-2007, 17:20

because i live in bulgaria and know what will happened in this games
if you know something about
of your football games please tell us
and

*Tosh* · 03-11-2007, 08:01

Marek Dupnitsa - Cska Sofia 2 @ 1.44 at SportingBet

Well , not big odds , but for Cska , this game is a 'must win' game . Cska lost in Plovdiv vs Lokomotiv a couple of days ago , in a game for Bulgarian Cup , and were defeated from the tournament . Loko was clearly the better team in that game , they deserved the win . Cska played really poor , they do not have a single dangerous attack for the whole 90 minutes . Last round in APFG , Cska won with 1-0 vs Cherno More at home , but again played like crap . They are in some mini crisis , and there is a little tension on coach Stoycho Mladenov . Some of the fans want Cska to sack their coach , because of the poor display that the team shows .
But Cska has some very good players , they have great experience , and should be able to get the team out of the crisis situation , and to improve their style of playing . For today`s game , Cska will be without suspended Quido Lanzaart , but he is not a big loss .
Marek started really poor , but made some decent games after that , and showed that they can be a threat . Ex Cska striker , Evgeniy Yordanov , and Enyo Krastovchev , will try to score some goals vs out-of-form Cska . Marek reports for missing key players in defence , with misterious injuries , with only one available for today`s game , but sometimes such kind of reports are not true , and their aim is to surprise the opponent . I honestly doubt , that Marek has many injuried players ...
Well , Cska is clearly the better team here , and this game is a 'must win' game for them . If Cska did not win in Dupnitsa , coach Stoycho Mladenov is out of the team , this is for sure . Cska celebrates their 60th anniversary , and their main target is the title . If they really want the title , they should start to play like a champion . I`m on the away team here , with maximum strength , 10/10 .
GL ...

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*Tosh* · 03-11-2007, 08:19

Cherno More - Vihren 1 @ 1.55 at SportingBet

Well , this one is a little strange . On paper , Cherno More are the better team , but ...
Cherno More can play really good , have some very nice players , but they failed to win games , where they have managed to outplay the opponent . Cherno More played really decent game in Sofia vs Cska last round , deserved to take a point , but they did not . And a couple of days ago , in Bulgarian Cup , Cherno More failed to win vs poor Svetkavica , and scored the winning goal in 108 minute , in the extra time . Now they meet good opponent , vs Vihren the home side should show some class , and take the whole three pts . These points are important for them , because the team is currently lying on the 11th position , and only 2 pts ahead of the last placed team - Belasica .
Vihren lost their last game , at home vs Lokomotiv Plovdiv , their coach Eduard Eranosyan left the club , now Vihren are in a run of 5 games without a win . Vihren can surprise every team , they have some decent portugalian and brazilian players , who are dangerous on the counter attack , but I honestly think that today Cherno More should get on the field and make one good game , and play with their full potential . If they do that , they will win this one . 8/10 for the home win is my bet ...
GL ...

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*Tosh* · 03-11-2007, 08:32

Beroe Stara Zagora - Belasica Petrich X2 @ 2.60 at SportingBet

I found these odds for Bela like very good offer . First of all , we should say , that in Stara Zagora , two very poor teams will play today . Beroe , without an owner , with some troubles , and Belasica , with some decent players , but show nothing from the last couple of seasons .
Beroe did surprise Litex in Lovech in last round , but we should say , that Litex plays very poor atm . Inteligent players like Tom, Ivelin Popov and Beto , are far from their best form , and Litex` attack suffers from that . Out for Beroe is striker Gerasim Zakov .
Belasica were defeated from the Bulgarian Cup , after 1-2 loss from Minyor , but in this game Belasica started with their reserve and young players . Key players were given a rest , to be fresh for this game , vs Beroe .
Belasica currently is on the last place , with only 7 points , and all of them are won at home . Belasica have 4 defeats on road from 4 games , and are the only team that have not managed to score a single goal . This one should stop , and I think that today is a good day for that . In last round , Bela lost 1-2 at home vs Slavia , but in a poor game . Slavia scored their 2nd goal in 91 minute , and I can say that Belasica deserved a point here . Belasica are in a run of 4 losses on row , and I think that today they will stop that poor run . I`m against the home side here , I think that today Bela will take , what they lost vs Slavia in last round , and will earn a point , or maybe the whole three , who knows ...?!

Belasica not to lose today , 6/10 for that ...
GL ...

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*Tosh* · 03-11-2007, 08:51

Lokomotiv Plovdiv - Litex Lovech 1 DNB @ 2.05 at SportingBet

This one is the derby game of the week . Lokomotiv defeated Cska a couple of days ago in Bulgarian Cup , and now want to win the whole three pts vs Litex . This one is far from 'mission impossible' , because atm Lokomotiv is the better team here . Loko plays very good , attractive football , have great players , and can beat every team in Bulgaria .
A full stadium is what people in Plovdiv expect for that game , and a home win . I think that this is very probable outcome .
Both sides are with their full squads . Loko have injured Halimi , Vundev i Veli , but only Vundev is important . And with in-form strikers like Sakaliev and Kamburov , I doubt that Vundev would be in starting eleven , if he was not injured .
Litex plays very bad , and in their visits , the team looks like a relegation fighter . There is some tension in the squad , coach Ferario Spasov feels very unsafe in his position , and I think that this one will be Fero`s last game for Litex this season . When ex-coach Lupko Petrovich was about to quit Litex , the club appointed Ferario Spasov as an assistant manager . Two or three games after that , Lupko was sacked , and Ferario Spasov too his position . Now the situation is the same - Fero made some poor results , and now he has a new assistant manager , who is the ex-Lokomotiv Plovdiv coach , Ivan Marinov , and he is said to be the next Litex coach . The visitors did not play like their staff and fans expect , and need some changes . Think that today , Lokomotiv has what it takes to beat Litex , I choose the DNB option , because Loko had the hardest game in Bulgarian Cup , and should be more tired than Litex , but still are ready to earn a win in this game . 7/10 for Lokomotiv .
GL ...

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*Tosh* · 03-11-2007, 09:01

Lokomotiv Sofia - Vidima Rakovski over 2.5 goals @ 1.65 at SportingBet

Lokomotiv is far the better team here , and will win this . It will be a great surprise if they do not do that . Vidima is one of the poorest teams here , and should be well beaten .
Lokomotiv are without Viktor Spisic , important defender Georgi Markov is back in the first eleven . For Vidima , out are Maryan Blazev and Asen Chalakov .
I think that it is high time to see Loko`s strikers to score some goals . Last three games , Loko scored 3 goals , a goal in each game , which gave them 7 pts , but still is not very impresive . Lokomotiv plays 4-4-2 , an attacking minded team , and I feel that today there will be some goals in Nadezda Stadium , so I choose to bet on goals here ...
GL ...

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*Tosh* · 03-11-2007, 09:30

Pirin Blagoevgrad - Levski X @ 3.75 at SportingBet

Very poor odds for the away win here , and I am wiling to try something different here .
First of all , Pirin is the best newcomer this season , and plays well . They undoubtedly can surprise Levski today . On the other hand we have Levski , who is poorer than what he shows in last two or three seasons .
Today , home side will be with his full strength . For Levski , first choice goalie Georgi Petkov , and legend Daniel Borimirov are out .
I think that today there is some possibility Levski not to win their visit in Blagoevgrad . Litex and Cska won their games here , but both earned the three pts very hard . We should notice , that Levski played 120 minutes in Mezdra vs Lokomotiv in Bulgarian Cup , and although they manage to defeat Loko , Levski did not impressed . They were the better team , but vs such kind of opponents , you should not be so troubled to score .
Another important thing here . In Blagoevgrad , yesterday had heavy rain , and now the weather is not very good . Levski players have big problems , when they should play on bad pitch . They did not played well vs Belasica in Petrich , ended 0-0 , and vs Spartak in Varna , where managed to win with 1-2 . If the game is on good field , Levski will have no problems to beat every team in Bulgaria , but today Pirin will have great chance to take something from the champion . Last game here , ended 1-1 . Pirin is in run of 3 home defeats , maybe today , vs league champion , they can stop that bad run . If they manage to win vs Levski , each Pirin player will receive 1500 bulgarian leva bonus , which is about 700 euro . There are bonuses for a draw , too , and I will put my money on that . Still , minimum stake , 2/10 for me ...

GL ...

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*Tosh* · 03-11-2007, 14:42

All of today`s games finished . Here are the results :

Marek - Cska 1:3 -------> bet won

Cherno More - Vihren 1:0 --------> bet won

Beroe - Belasica 2:1 -----------> bet lost

Lokomotiv Plovdiv - Litex 1:0 ---------> bet won

Lokomotiv Sofia - Vidima Rakovski 2:0 -----------> bet lost

Pirin Blagoevgrad - Levski 1:1 -----------> bet won

4 out of 6 ...

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I`m happy with my picks , but it could have been better ...
Belasica took the lead , and in second half , Du Bala missed penalty , when the score was still 0-1 . If he had scored , Belasica should have won that game ...
In Sofia , Lokomotiv scored 2 , and missed about 20 more goals , so ... Unlucky here ...

Cheers , if somebody has followed me in APFG ...

EVERLAST · 03-11-2007, 19:20

Good job Tosh!
Pirin Vs. Levski was good bet!
I saw the match, penalty for Levski was unreally!
But the justice is.....for all

1-1 in 89 min!

Cheers!

01-11-2007, 18:02	#2 (permalink)
raviolinaoli Banned Join Date: 13 Oct 2007 Location: PLOVDIV , BULGARIA Posts: 25	Re: Bulgaria APFG ( 3-4 November ) slavia - spartak - trebe da se vnimava

01-11-2007, 18:04	#3 (permalink)
raviolinaoli Banned Join Date: 13 Oct 2007 Location: PLOVDIV , BULGARIA Posts: 25	Re: Bulgaria APFG ( 3-4 November ) CSKA - 2 LEVSKI - 2 CHERNO MORE - 1 100 % SURE BETS

01-11-2007, 21:22	#4 (permalink)
Tulenos Bohemian NHL Punter Join Date: 02 May 2001 Location: Prague Age: 38 Posts: 11,757	Re: Bulgaria APFG ( 3-4 November ) @ raviolinaoli - can you please post in English and include some reasoning behind your fancies/bets? 100 % sure bets doesn't look like reasoning of any value

02-11-2007, 17:20	#5 (permalink)
raviolinaoli Banned Join Date: 13 Oct 2007 Location: PLOVDIV , BULGARIA Posts: 25	Re: Bulgaria APFG ( 3-4 November ) because i live in bulgaria and know what will happened in this games if you know something about of your football games please tell us and

03-11-2007, 08:01	#6 (permalink)
Tosh HearTBreakeR Join Date: 15 Feb 2007 Location: Plovdiv Town , Bulgaria Posts: 230	Re: Bulgaria APFG ( 3-4 November ) Marek Dupnitsa - Cska Sofia 2 @ 1.44 at SportingBet Well , not big odds , but for Cska , this game is a 'must win' game . Cska lost in Plovdiv vs Lokomotiv a couple of days ago , in a game for Bulgarian Cup , and were defeated from the tournament . Loko was clearly the better team in that game , they deserved the win . Cska played really poor , they do not have a single dangerous attack for the whole 90 minutes . Last round in APFG , Cska won with 1-0 vs Cherno More at home , but again played like crap . They are in some mini crisis , and there is a little tension on coach Stoycho Mladenov . Some of the fans want Cska to sack their coach , because of the poor display that the team shows . But Cska has some very good players , they have great experience , and should be able to get the team out of the crisis situation , and to improve their style of playing . For today`s game , Cska will be without suspended Quido Lanzaart , but he is not a big loss . Marek started really poor , but made some decent games after that , and showed that they can be a threat . Ex Cska striker , Evgeniy Yordanov , and Enyo Krastovchev , will try to score some goals vs out-of-form Cska . Marek reports for missing key players in defence , with misterious injuries , with only one available for today`s game , but sometimes such kind of reports are not true , and their aim is to surprise the opponent . I honestly doubt , that Marek has many injuried players ... Well , Cska is clearly the better team here , and this game is a 'must win' game for them . If Cska did not win in Dupnitsa , coach Stoycho Mladenov is out of the team , this is for sure . Cska celebrates their 60th anniversary , and their main target is the title . If they really want the title , they should start to play like a champion . I`m on the away team here , with maximum strength , 10/10 . GL ... : __________________ Juve per sempre sara` !!!

03-11-2007, 08:19	#7 (permalink)
Tosh HearTBreakeR Join Date: 15 Feb 2007 Location: Plovdiv Town , Bulgaria Posts: 230	Re: Bulgaria APFG ( 3-4 November ) Cherno More - Vihren 1 @ 1.55 at SportingBet Well , this one is a little strange . On paper , Cherno More are the better team , but ... Cherno More can play really good , have some very nice players , but they failed to win games , where they have managed to outplay the opponent . Cherno More played really decent game in Sofia vs Cska last round , deserved to take a point , but they did not . And a couple of days ago , in Bulgarian Cup , Cherno More failed to win vs poor Svetkavica , and scored the winning goal in 108 minute , in the extra time . Now they meet good opponent , vs Vihren the home side should show some class , and take the whole three pts . These points are important for them , because the team is currently lying on the 11th position , and only 2 pts ahead of the last placed team - Belasica . Vihren lost their last game , at home vs Lokomotiv Plovdiv , their coach Eduard Eranosyan left the club , now Vihren are in a run of 5 games without a win . Vihren can surprise every team , they have some decent portugalian and brazilian players , who are dangerous on the counter attack , but I honestly think that today Cherno More should get on the field and make one good game , and play with their full potential . If they do that , they will win this one . 8/10 for the home win is my bet ... GL ... : __________________ Juve per sempre sara` !!!

03-11-2007, 08:32	#8 (permalink)
Tosh HearTBreakeR Join Date: 15 Feb 2007 Location: Plovdiv Town , Bulgaria Posts: 230	Re: Bulgaria APFG ( 3-4 November ) Beroe Stara Zagora - Belasica Petrich X2 @ 2.60 at SportingBet I found these odds for Bela like very good offer . First of all , we should say , that in Stara Zagora , two very poor teams will play today . Beroe , without an owner , with some troubles , and Belasica , with some decent players , but show nothing from the last couple of seasons . Beroe did surprise Litex in Lovech in last round , but we should say , that Litex plays very poor atm . Inteligent players like Tom, Ivelin Popov and Beto , are far from their best form , and Litex` attack suffers from that . Out for Beroe is striker Gerasim Zakov . Belasica were defeated from the Bulgarian Cup , after 1-2 loss from Minyor , but in this game Belasica started with their reserve and young players . Key players were given a rest , to be fresh for this game , vs Beroe . Belasica currently is on the last place , with only 7 points , and all of them are won at home . Belasica have 4 defeats on road from 4 games , and are the only team that have not managed to score a single goal . This one should stop , and I think that today is a good day for that . In last round , Bela lost 1-2 at home vs Slavia , but in a poor game . Slavia scored their 2nd goal in 91 minute , and I can say that Belasica deserved a point here . Belasica are in a run of 4 losses on row , and I think that today they will stop that poor run . I`m against the home side here , I think that today Bela will take , what they lost vs Slavia in last round , and will earn a point , or maybe the whole three , who knows ...?! Belasica not to lose today , 6/10 for that ... GL ... : __________________ Juve per sempre sara` !!!

03-11-2007, 08:51	#9 (permalink)
Tosh HearTBreakeR Join Date: 15 Feb 2007 Location: Plovdiv Town , Bulgaria Posts: 230	Re: Bulgaria APFG ( 3-4 November ) Lokomotiv Plovdiv - Litex Lovech 1 DNB @ 2.05 at SportingBet This one is the derby game of the week . Lokomotiv defeated Cska a couple of days ago in Bulgarian Cup , and now want to win the whole three pts vs Litex . This one is far from 'mission impossible' , because atm Lokomotiv is the better team here . Loko plays very good , attractive football , have great players , and can beat every team in Bulgaria . A full stadium is what people in Plovdiv expect for that game , and a home win . I think that this is very probable outcome . Both sides are with their full squads . Loko have injured Halimi , Vundev i Veli , but only Vundev is important . And with in-form strikers like Sakaliev and Kamburov , I doubt that Vundev would be in starting eleven , if he was not injured . Litex plays very bad , and in their visits , the team looks like a relegation fighter . There is some tension in the squad , coach Ferario Spasov feels very unsafe in his position , and I think that this one will be Fero`s last game for Litex this season . When ex-coach Lupko Petrovich was about to quit Litex , the club appointed Ferario Spasov as an assistant manager . Two or three games after that , Lupko was sacked , and Ferario Spasov too his position . Now the situation is the same - Fero made some poor results , and now he has a new assistant manager , who is the ex-Lokomotiv Plovdiv coach , Ivan Marinov , and he is said to be the next Litex coach . The visitors did not play like their staff and fans expect , and need some changes . Think that today , Lokomotiv has what it takes to beat Litex , I choose the DNB option , because Loko had the hardest game in Bulgarian Cup , and should be more tired than Litex , but still are ready to earn a win in this game . 7/10 for Lokomotiv . GL ... : __________________ Juve per sempre sara` !!!

03-11-2007, 09:01	#10 (permalink)
Tosh HearTBreakeR Join Date: 15 Feb 2007 Location: Plovdiv Town , Bulgaria Posts: 230	Re: Bulgaria APFG ( 3-4 November ) Lokomotiv Sofia - Vidima Rakovski over 2.5 goals @ 1.65 at SportingBet Lokomotiv is far the better team here , and will win this . It will be a great surprise if they do not do that . Vidima is one of the poorest teams here , and should be well beaten . Lokomotiv are without Viktor Spisic , important defender Georgi Markov is back in the first eleven . For Vidima , out are Maryan Blazev and Asen Chalakov . I think that it is high time to see Loko`s strikers to score some goals . Last three games , Loko scored 3 goals , a goal in each game , which gave them 7 pts , but still is not very impresive . Lokomotiv plays 4-4-2 , an attacking minded team , and I feel that today there will be some goals in Nadezda Stadium , so I choose to bet on goals here ... GL ... : __________________ Juve per sempre sara` !!!

03-11-2007, 09:30	#11 (permalink)
Tosh HearTBreakeR Join Date: 15 Feb 2007 Location: Plovdiv Town , Bulgaria Posts: 230	Re: Bulgaria APFG ( 3-4 November ) Pirin Blagoevgrad - Levski X @ 3.75 at SportingBet Very poor odds for the away win here , and I am wiling to try something different here . First of all , Pirin is the best newcomer this season , and plays well . They undoubtedly can surprise Levski today . On the other hand we have Levski , who is poorer than what he shows in last two or three seasons . Today , home side will be with his full strength . For Levski , first choice goalie Georgi Petkov , and legend Daniel Borimirov are out . I think that today there is some possibility Levski not to win their visit in Blagoevgrad . Litex and Cska won their games here , but both earned the three pts very hard . We should notice , that Levski played 120 minutes in Mezdra vs Lokomotiv in Bulgarian Cup , and although they manage to defeat Loko , Levski did not impressed . They were the better team , but vs such kind of opponents , you should not be so troubled to score . Another important thing here . In Blagoevgrad , yesterday had heavy rain , and now the weather is not very good . Levski players have big problems , when they should play on bad pitch . They did not played well vs Belasica in Petrich , ended 0-0 , and vs Spartak in Varna , where managed to win with 1-2 . If the game is on good field , Levski will have no problems to beat every team in Bulgaria , but today Pirin will have great chance to take something from the champion . Last game here , ended 1-1 . Pirin is in run of 3 home defeats , maybe today , vs league champion , they can stop that bad run . If they manage to win vs Levski , each Pirin player will receive 1500 bulgarian leva bonus , which is about 700 euro . There are bonuses for a draw , too , and I will put my money on that . Still , minimum stake , 2/10 for me ... GL ... : __________________ Juve per sempre sara` !!!

03-11-2007, 14:42	#12 (permalink)
Tosh HearTBreakeR Join Date: 15 Feb 2007 Location: Plovdiv Town , Bulgaria Posts: 230	Re: Bulgaria APFG ( 3-4 November ) All of today`s games finished . Here are the results : Marek - Cska 1:3 -------> bet won Cherno More - Vihren 1:0 --------> bet won Beroe - Belasica 2:1 -----------> bet lost Lokomotiv Plovdiv - Litex 1:0 ---------> bet won Lokomotiv Sofia - Vidima Rakovski 2:0 -----------> bet lost Pirin Blagoevgrad - Levski 1:1 -----------> bet won 4 out of 6 ... : I`m happy with my picks , but it could have been better ... Belasica took the lead , and in second half , Du Bala missed penalty , when the score was still 0-1 . If he had scored , Belasica should have won that game ... In Sofia , Lokomotiv scored 2 , and missed about 20 more goals , so ... Unlucky here ... Cheers , if somebody has followed me in APFG ... __________________ Juve per sempre sara` !!!

03-11-2007, 19:20	#13 (permalink)
EVERLAST Bulgarian Punter Join Date: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 13	Re: Bulgaria APFG ( 3-4 November ) Good job Tosh! Pirin Vs. Levski was good bet! I saw the match, penalty for Levski was unreally! But the justice is.....for all 1-1 in 89 min! Cheers!

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