Souness... - The Punters Lounge

alexmac · 24-08-2005, 20:47

Bolton are currently beating Newcastle 1-0. Who would of thought that to be possible 3 or 4 years ago. IMO this highlights 2 different teams going in 2 VERY different directions. Surely this has to be the final straw for Souness.

Call me synical, but the move for Owen seems to be Souness well and truly clutching at straws. Owen is not what NUFC need, they need a manager who knows what they are doing. Souness is a joke, a complete waste of time.

This is coming from a season-ticket holder at St James Park, I am well and truly looking forward to Sunday when NUFC get tanked by Man Utd, the supporters will make Souness squeam at FT.

Thoughts.....

Valiant23 · 24-08-2005, 21:04

I'd never boo my own team or even direct it at a crud Mgr/player, but you will never have a happy dressing-room with Bellamy and Robert. Unfortunately players of that calibre are hard to replace.

Ordinarily Owen signing would have you drooling,but even if he does and then Souness goes Owen has never scored 20 league goals in a season.

Shouldn't some of your anger be directed towards Freddy Shepherd?

alexmac · 24-08-2005, 21:05

Why?

Souness has consistently proved that he cannot manage a top class Premiership team.

alexmac · 24-08-2005, 21:08

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Ordinarily Owen signing would have you drooling

To an extent you are right, but if I knew that a player did REALLY not want to play for my team then it is a different case.

He has now said that he wants to stay at Real, if that isn't possible then he wants Liverpool, thirdly he says he will settle for a year long loan at NUFC until his move to Liverpool is finalised. That is not what a club needs.

Browser Main Menu · 24-08-2005, 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant23

I'd never boo my own team or even direct it at a crud Mgr/player, but you will never have a happy dressing-room with Bellamy and Robert. Unfortunately players of that calibre are hard to replace.

Ordinarily Owen signing would have you drooling,but even if he does and then Souness goes Owen has never scored 20 league goals in a season.

Shouldn't some of your anger be directed towards Freddy Shepherd?

Well said Valiant23!

alexmac · 24-08-2005, 21:11

You may never Boo a manager or player, but I am afraid that you are in a minority nowadays. Did you hear St James Park after the West Ham game.

2-0 Bolton now.

Browser Main Menu · 24-08-2005, 21:19

Souness, must be under pressure now and will step down soon if results don't pick up. He had a great start but the honeymoon period is now over and I think Shep and Sou are about to get divorced!

DangerZone · 24-08-2005, 21:26

Cant see Owen going there now 2-0

Valiant23 · 24-08-2005, 21:41

Sorry, didn't read the criticism(?) of Owen properly.:o

I think the decline started whilst Bobby Robson was in charge, with some questionable signings. In fact I think Shepherds' judgement in appointing managers has been poor (Kenny Dalglish?).

Then when you add poor management to poor signings (there have been some good ones too, mind) or sometimes good signings underperforming it doen't look too clever.

I do think souness is the card that brings the house down though. Thing is I do think the job is too big for Shearer, and I'm not sure Shepherd will have the ambition(?) to go for a 'big gun' who'd inspire (can I mention Martin O'Neill?) and make the underperformers perform and make signings want to go there.

PAULM03 · 24-08-2005, 21:52

I think Shepherd has to take the blame. It was obvious that a manager like Souness was the last thing Newcastle needed, there's no way he could ever unite a fractious dressing room.
Odd yhing is we all knew it, the Newcastle fans knew it, every single Blackburn fan knew it, in fact every supporter of every club Souness has ever 'managed' knew it. So why couldn't the Newcastle board see it?

davidmphill · 24-08-2005, 22:34

Newcastle lose to Man Utd this weekend = UB40 for Mr G.Souness

blackfritz · 24-08-2005, 23:53

Certainly hope so, got 11/2 on Souness being first manager to go!

meatman · 25-08-2005, 00:41

IMO Souness is a shit manager and the fans have every right to boo him. he just simply hasn't provided the goods with the resources he has been given.

to be honest I think he will be the first manager to go this season.

fcuck knows who'll replace him. maybe Newcastle could do with a bit of 'sexy football' again

I say Ruud Gullit to return to the Necastle hotseat

llanitotaylor · 25-08-2005, 08:35

I think Man Utd will easily beat Newcastle (with or without Owen).

Souness was a great player, but a f*cking useless manager. It took Liverpool years to recover from what he created there.

Remember that guy he signed that Souness reckoned would be a major player? Torben Pichnik or something????!!!!

24-08-2005, 20:47	#1 (permalink)
alexmac RFC-51 League Wins Punter Join Date: 09 May 2003 Location: Reading/Glasvegas Age: 25 Posts: 6,746	Souness... Bolton are currently beating Newcastle 1-0. Who would of thought that to be possible 3 or 4 years ago. IMO this highlights 2 different teams going in 2 VERY different directions. Surely this has to be the final straw for Souness. Call me synical, but the move for Owen seems to be Souness well and truly clutching at straws. Owen is not what NUFC need, they need a manager who knows what they are doing. Souness is a joke, a complete waste of time. This is coming from a season-ticket holder at St James Park, I am well and truly looking forward to Sunday when NUFC get tanked by Man Utd, the supporters will make Souness squeam at FT. Thoughts..... __________________ We welcome the chase. It is healthy for us. We will never hide from it. Never fear, inevitably we shall have our years of failure, and when they arrive, we must reveal tolerance and sanity. Bill Struth (1875-1956)

24-08-2005, 21:04	#2 (permalink)
Valiant23 Vienti Tres Join Date: 06 Aug 2005 Location: On the road Age: 40 Posts: 13,477	Re: Souness... I'd never boo my own team or even direct it at a crud Mgr/player, but you will never have a happy dressing-room with Bellamy and Robert. Unfortunately players of that calibre are hard to replace. Ordinarily Owen signing would have you drooling,but even if he does and then Souness goes Owen has never scored 20 league goals in a season. Shouldn't some of your anger be directed towards Freddy Shepherd? __________________ You can spend your time alone re digesting past regrets, Or you can come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself. Makes much more sense to live in the present tense.

24-08-2005, 21:05	#3 (permalink)
alexmac RFC-51 League Wins Punter Join Date: 09 May 2003 Location: Reading/Glasvegas Age: 25 Posts: 6,746	Re: Souness... Why? Souness has consistently proved that he cannot manage a top class Premiership team. __________________ We welcome the chase. It is healthy for us. We will never hide from it. Never fear, inevitably we shall have our years of failure, and when they arrive, we must reveal tolerance and sanity. Bill Struth (1875-1956)

24-08-2005, 21:11	#6 (permalink)
alexmac RFC-51 League Wins Punter Join Date: 09 May 2003 Location: Reading/Glasvegas Age: 25 Posts: 6,746	Re: Souness... You may never Boo a manager or player, but I am afraid that you are in a minority nowadays. Did you hear St James Park after the West Ham game. 2-0 Bolton now. __________________ We welcome the chase. It is healthy for us. We will never hide from it. Never fear, inevitably we shall have our years of failure, and when they arrive, we must reveal tolerance and sanity. Bill Struth (1875-1956)

24-08-2005, 21:19	#7 (permalink)
Browser Main Menu Newbie Punter Join Date: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 26	Re: Souness... Souness, must be under pressure now and will step down soon if results don't pick up. He had a great start but the honeymoon period is now over and I think Shep and Sou are about to get divorced!

24-08-2005, 21:26	#8 (permalink)
DangerZone Newbie Punter Join Date: 23 Jul 2005 Age: 33 Posts: 22	Re: Souness... Cant see Owen going there now 2-0

24-08-2005, 21:41	#9 (permalink)
Valiant23 Vienti Tres Join Date: 06 Aug 2005 Location: On the road Age: 40 Posts: 13,477	Re: Souness... Sorry, didn't read the criticism(?) of Owen properly.:o I think the decline started whilst Bobby Robson was in charge, with some questionable signings. In fact I think Shepherds' judgement in appointing managers has been poor (Kenny Dalglish?). Then when you add poor management to poor signings (there have been some good ones too, mind) or sometimes good signings underperforming it doen't look too clever. I do think souness is the card that brings the house down though. Thing is I do think the job is too big for Shearer, and I'm not sure Shepherd will have the ambition(?) to go for a 'big gun' who'd inspire (can I mention Martin O'Neill?) and make the underperformers perform and make signings want to go there. __________________ You can spend your time alone re digesting past regrets, Or you can come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself. Makes much more sense to live in the present tense.

24-08-2005, 21:52	#10 (permalink)
PAULM03 Sabbatical punter Join Date: 27 Nov 2000 Age: 29 Posts: 10,373	Re: Souness... I think Shepherd has to take the blame. It was obvious that a manager like Souness was the last thing Newcastle needed, there's no way he could ever unite a fractious dressing room. Odd yhing is we all knew it, the Newcastle fans knew it, every single Blackburn fan knew it, in fact every supporter of every club Souness has ever 'managed' knew it. So why couldn't the Newcastle board see it?

24-08-2005, 22:34	#11 (permalink)
davidmphill 260408 Join Date: 09 Feb 2005 Location: Colorado. Age: 36 Posts: 22,373 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Re: Souness... Newcastle lose to Man Utd this weekend = UB40 for Mr G.Souness __________________ Gwlad, gwlad, pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad, Tra mor yn fur i'r bur hoff bau, O bydded i'r heniaith barhau.

24-08-2005, 23:53	#12 (permalink)
blackfritz Seasoned Punter Join Date: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 386 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Re: Souness... Certainly hope so, got 11/2 on Souness being first manager to go!

25-08-2005, 00:41	#13 (permalink)
meatman meaty punter Join Date: 26 Feb 2005 Age: 21 Posts: 12,953 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Re: Souness... IMO Souness is a shit manager and the fans have every right to boo him. he just simply hasn't provided the goods with the resources he has been given. to be honest I think he will be the first manager to go this season. fcuck knows who'll replace him. maybe Newcastle could do with a bit of 'sexy football' again I say Ruud Gullit to return to the Necastle hotseat __________________ The Meatman - always looking out for a meaty price to get his teeth into

25-08-2005, 08:35	#14 (permalink)
llanitotaylor Optimistic/Misled Punter Join Date: 24 Feb 2005 Location: Spain Age: 27 Posts: 1,165	Re: Souness... I think Man Utd will easily beat Newcastle (with or without Owen). Souness was a great player, but a f*cking useless manager. It took Liverpool years to recover from what he created there. Remember that guy he signed that Souness reckoned would be a major player? Torben Pichnik or something????!!!! __________________ Gambling Fool - giving bookies the advantage

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