Best fans in the world the scots....

[jtw1]

Originally Posted by ScottishBhoy87

G:G I am not slating Rangers, I am slating the mindless fans involved in these running battles with Manchesters Police force. I am slo indentifying the problem these riots etc we have seen on tv = the problem, its simply unacceptable.

Maybe in Sweden Scotlands good reputation has not been tarnished by this, however I have heard this has hit the news in other countries such as the USA and OZ. I still think most countries have high opinions of the Scots, my concern is that if behaviour like this continues, our reputation will be dragged to the gutters.

If you look at the name of this thread and the first post by the fella who created it, its about Scotlands reputation diminishing because of embarrassing nights such as these.

So whats the answer SB [ good to see you back by the way ]
You keep coming up with all these vids and stats about how terrible it all
is/has been , so whats your take on how to stop it happening again .

I've already had my say about the UEFA deciding where the finals will be held as soon as the 2 finalists are known [ for capacity sake ]
There should be NO public drinking , Bars should be shut 2 hours before kick-off , No cans or plastic bottles should be allowed where the big screens are .
Thats how i see it how about you ?

[Valiant23]

Originally Posted by nastro 1888

get used to it buddy - tis' the pl way unfortunately.


talk to a moderator like that - these guys dont muck about, even a manchester policeman wouldnt exercise his rights to free-speech in here mate.

[mowgli77]

Originally Posted by ScottishBhoy87

Paranoid...?


I was making a point that I applauded the Rangers fans who turned up at Parkhead to show respect for Tommy Burns.

Fair play to you for that but there weren't many others did the same, talk about me jumping on the bandwagon, is that not what all the Celtic fans have done by slating Rangers???

[Darren]

On events the other night, what a let down. Any Rangers fan must be truly sick by how its all ended up.

Manchester got invaded and the fans it seemed were lighting the place up. Creating an amazing atmosphere and marking the occasion superbly, as well as scaring the fook out of Manchester with the bouncy

Through the game the fans were brilliant as well, really did the club proud.

But by gawd they ruined it all. While coppers and Manchester City council fooked up, nothing can excuse what Rangers fans did. They tarnished the image of what is supposedly their club. None of the great things Rangers fans did will be remembered, just the riots and trouble that hit Manchester.

Rangers are taking the right action imo, name and shame the lot of them, hitting some with life bans from Ibrox might mean fook all mind, some probably have never been.

While there is no excusing what the idiot minority did, UEFA and City councils need to learn how to host a final. I dare say it'll only ever be a problem when British sides are in the final, you just can't get a stadium big enough to hold the numbers that will want to go and then do go, but things like fanzones around the city need to be setup and work. A year ago in Athens nothing was setup - no ticket then good luck finding somewhere to watch the game. That day Liverpools idiots made the headlines, and disgraced the club.

Maybe in Moscow things will be different. Visa issues for a start, no ticket and you probably can't go. UEFA just don't understand the mindset of british fans though imo. With an Italian club or Spanish club they might get tickets going spare for the final, but with the likes of Rangers, Celtic, Utd, Liverpool they could sell their allocation about 10 times over.

[TheRat]

threads like this are always entertaining for a while, but get boring fast when the disussion goes around and around in circles

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Darren

Maybe in Moscow things will be different. Visa issues for a start, no ticket and you probably can't go. UEFA just don't understand the mindset of british fans though imo. With an Italian club or Spanish club they might get tickets going spare for the final, but with the likes of Rangers, Celtic, Utd, Liverpool they could sell their allocation about 10 times over.

Great point.

[whycantistayawayfromdogs]

Originally Posted by Matt

What the hell are you going on about?

basically that you are a 25 year old child, grow up.

[Sharpe1ne]

Come on chaps a few more pages and we're bound to hit the top of google search,currently on page 2 of "best fans in the world".

So lets see if we can get there.

Rangers are shite neanderthals,Celtic are shite choirboys,all of Scotland is gay.Hadrians Wall should be rebuilt 30ft high then charges detonated and Scotland be cast adrift of the UK.

Oh yeah and roll on the 4 Nations Cup

[The Quiet Man]

Originally Posted by Sharpe1ne

Rangers are shite neanderthals,Celtic are shite choirboys,all of Scotland is gay.Hadrians Wall should be rebuilt 30ft high then charges detonated and Scotland be cast adrift of the UK.

Oh yeah and roll on the 4 Nations Cup

Most sensible post in this thread!

TQM

[Bettor Days]

Simple fact is any club, town, city has its trouble makers, and any story has 2 sides (there was blatantly innocents gettin a clump in manchester) and with 100,000 + drinking in the sun all day this sort of thing is never a million miles away, throw a broken screen into the mixer moments b4 KO and there u go, it was the igniter, would it ave appened if the screen didnt break down? we'll never know but prob not. Some people need to get over it, are celtic fans all trouble makers just cos i saw a tramp in a celtic shirt get a bit fisty with 2 coppers a couple of years back?..answer is of course no, and the same applies ere.

[Big Gaz]

Originally Posted by Sharpe1ne

Come on chaps a few more pages and we're bound to hit the top of google search,currently on page 2 of "best fans in the world".

So lets see if we can get there.

Rangers are shite neanderthals,Celtic are shite choirboys,all of Scotland is gay.Hadrians Wall should be rebuilt 30ft high then charges detonated and Scotland be cast adrift of the UK.

Oh yeah and roll on the 4 Nations Cup

Sharpe1ne you can kiss my big jock arse infact next pl do you attend might just make you do that and get carl to video it.

[Sharpe1ne]

Originally Posted by Big Gaz

Sharpe1ne you can kiss my big jock arse infact next pl do you attend might just make you do that and get carl to video it.

Note to self: Make sure Big Gaz has travelled to Pene and Rossy's house and "visted" the vegetable garden before going on anymore PL do's

[MJB20_2008]

Originally Posted by jtw1

So whats the answer SB [ good to see you back by the way ]
You keep coming up with all these vids and stats about how terrible it all
is/has been , so whats your take on how to stop it happening again .

I've already had my say about the UEFA deciding where the finals will be held as soon as the 2 finalists are known [ for capacity sake ]
There should be NO public drinking , Bars should be shut 2 hours before kick-off , No cans or plastic bottles should be allowed where the big screens are .
Thats how i see it how about you ?

I'm sorry to say mate but I have to totally disagree with all you've said here.

It's not possible for a location of a final to be decided on who is in it, yes it would be the most sensible way but from a logistics point of view its lunacy. These things are planned months in advance with the police, its hard for them to set up a plan on how to police an event of this size with only 2 weeks notice. Why they held the game in the City of Manchester Stadium when Old Trafford a stadium nearly twice the size was available is astounding. For me Old Trafford is a far greater setting for a European final, COM stadium should never have been considered due to its size.

You cant ban drink from these things. I mean when has there EVER been trouble of this scale at a European final in the last 15 years?? I personally am struggling to think of any. Just because the moronic element of the Rangers support acted like animals should not spoil a great day out for all future fans. I mean when the Uefa cup final was in Glasgow it was a great day. The Sevilla fans were sensational, a true credit to their club and their country. Created a magnificent atmosphere, as did the Espanyol fans and yet there was not the slightest hint of trouble.

It appears the organisation of this event was pretty shambolic. Manchester City council must be in part held accountable for what happenned, but the true measure of accountability must be landed at the door of Ibrox stadium. I will be truely surprised if Rangers are not heavily punished for the conduct of their fans, especially due to their recent history of misconduct in european away grounds. (not trying to start an arguement just calling it like I see it)

[Big Gaz]

Originally Posted by MJB20_2008

I'm sorry to say mate but I have to totally disagree with all you've said here.

It's not possible for a location of a final to be decided on who is in it, yes it would be the most sensible way but from a logistics point of view its lunacy. These things are planned months in advance with the police, its hard for them to set up a plan on how to police an event of this size with only 2 weeks notice. Why they held the game in the City of Manchester Stadium when Old Trafford a stadium nearly twice the size was available is astounding. For me Old Trafford is a far greater setting for a European final, COM stadium should never have been considered due to its size.

You cant ban drink from these things. I mean when has there EVER been trouble of this scale at a European final in the last 15 years?? I personally am struggling to think of any. Just because the moronic element of the Rangers support acted like animals should not spoil a great day out for all future fans. I mean when the Uefa cup final was in Glasgow it was a great day. The Sevilla fans were sensational, a true credit to their club and their country. Created a magnificent atmosphere, as did the Espanyol fans and yet there was not the slightest hint of trouble.

It appears the organisation of this event was pretty shambolic. Manchester City council must be in part held accountable for what happenned, but the true measure of accountability must be landed at the door of Ibrox stadium. I will be truely surprised if Rangers are not heavily punished for the conduct of their fans, especially due to their recent history of misconduct in european away grounds. (not trying to start an arguement just calling it like I see it)

yea ure not trying to start an argument fishing then i presume

[ScottyXS]

Originally Posted by Big Gaz

Sharpe1ne you can kiss my big jock arse infact next pl do you attend might just make you do that and get carl to video it.

good one Gaz!!!
that would be class!!
now your singing from my book (choirboy, apparently )

[MJB20_2008]

Originally Posted by Big Gaz

yea ure not trying to start an argument fishing then i presume

God you really are touchy over what happend the other night arent you. Paranoid (sorry will probably get banned for this)

[Big Gaz]

Originally Posted by MJB20_2008

God you really are touchy over what happend the other night arent you. Paranoid (sorry will probably get banned for this)

See now your just being a ******* DICK grow up son or yes you will be gone

[Sharpe1ne]

The final's are planned 3 years in advance.
I actually bet Man Utd don't want to get to the next Champions League final as it's being held at Roma's ground.

Oh yeah Gaz and are you going to use violence to make me kiss it,typical Scotland Fan

[Big Gaz]

Originally Posted by Sharpe1ne

Oh yeah Gaz and are you going to use violence to make me kiss it,typical Scotland Fan

cnut

[MJB20_2008]

Originally Posted by Big Gaz

See now your just being a ******* DICK grow up son or yes you will be gone

Charming