Ashes - THE BIG ONE - The Punters Lounge

ksportz · 06-09-2005, 21:42

Just being trying to work out what England would do if we won the toss:

1. Field 1st.

a) Could bowl out ozzies for a low score. This would allow England to build a lead and go for win.
b) Could bowl to keep score down but not take wickets.. ie men on boundaries. If ozzies stay in for 1.5-2 days then a draw would be more likely.
c) Bad weather forecast for Sun/Monday ... bad light opportunities

2. Bat 1st

a) Get a good score on the board and hope to contain them
b) ???

I would field 1st tomorrow as if we are batting last we have the option to bat out for a draw whereas if Ozzies are batting last they have nothing to lose and would go all out for win.

Anyone else ?????

PAULM03 · 06-09-2005, 21:54

Bat first and try to run up a mammoth score. Going into the last day needing not to be bowled out is the last thing we need.

aliando · 06-09-2005, 22:02

I agree with ksportz - stick them in first, play defensive and know what you need to do with the bat then.

At this point, England are winning - the pressure is on the Aussies to attack.

PAULM03 · 06-09-2005, 22:15

Why go on the defensive when the pressure is on the Aussies? Don't forget they still have some of the worlds best batsmen who are more than capable of putting 350 on the board in the first day against any bowling attack.
If we can get a score in the region of 400 they know they're in real trouble before we've even bowled a ball, and on form I trust our bowlers to bowl to a target over our batsmen batting to a target. Have you forgotten the last test already?

friskyfitz · 06-09-2005, 22:16

Who's playing?

Knew that would upset ye!!!

ksportz · 06-09-2005, 22:19

I

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trust our bowlers to bowl to a target over our batsmen batting to a target

Yes but we only need a draw so we are not batting for a target... only to stay in... although yes the last test does worry me..

It's goona be great whatever...can't wai for the RAIN !!!!

From BBC

Thursday Sunrise 6:21 (BST) Sunset 19:34 (BST)	23°C	16°C	12	moderate	1012	55

Friday Sunrise 6:23 (BST) Sunset 19:32 (BST)	24°C	14°C	17	poor	1008	68

Saturday Sunrise 6:25 (BST) Sunset 19:29 (BST)	21°C	13°C	12	moderate	1006	51

Sunday Sunrise 6:26 (BST) Sunset 19:27 (BST)	20°C	14°C	6	moderate	1010	64

peteg40 · 06-09-2005, 22:20

The so called experts say whoever bats first wins this game, but looking at the weather for thursday & friday a draw looks the best bet to me.

PAULM03 · 06-09-2005, 22:23

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Yes but we only need a draw so we are not batting for a target... only to stay in...

I'd call batting for a hundred overs a pretty big target

Especially with this likely to be the last ashes test for Mssrs. Warne and McGrath.

aliando · 07-09-2005, 00:14

Betfair currently offering 2.44 for England to win the Ashes series 2-1... I've just thrown a couple of quid at it.

England trying not to lose and the British weather - decent partnership, perhaps...

meatman · 07-09-2005, 01:05

it is such a tough match to call but i fear an Aussie batting backlash.

i've got a feeling that they will win the toss and bat first rake up a mammoth score and we'll have to hang on for the rest of the match.

if we win the toss we must bat first, we don't wanna be facing warne on a 5th day oval pitch.

I personally think that Eng will somehow win the Ashes but its' so important that our batsmen fire for this one.

ksportz · 07-09-2005, 22:08

Weather Update...

Thursday Sunrise 6:10 (BST) Sunset 19:50 (BST)	23°C	14°C	7	moderate	1015	50

Friday Sunrise 6:12 (BST) Sunset 19:47 (BST)	24°C	13°C	2	good	1028	39

Saturday Sunrise 6:13 (BST) Sunset 19:45 (BST)	24°C	16°C	6	poor	1027	69

Sunday Sunrise 6:15 (BST) Sunset 19:43 (BST)	27°C	19°C	8	moderate	1019	55

Monday Sunrise 6:17 (BST) Sunset 19:41 (BST)	22°C	15°C	6	poor	1013	78

Saturday & Sunday have gone from rain & thunder to fukin sunny sunny...WTF

06-09-2005, 21:42	#1 (permalink)
ksportz God Punter Join Date: 16 Feb 2001 Posts: 2,105 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Ashes - THE BIG ONE Just being trying to work out what England would do if we won the toss: 1. Field 1st. a) Could bowl out ozzies for a low score. This would allow England to build a lead and go for win. b) Could bowl to keep score down but not take wickets.. ie men on boundaries. If ozzies stay in for 1.5-2 days then a draw would be more likely. c) Bad weather forecast for Sun/Monday ... bad light opportunities 2. Bat 1st a) Get a good score on the board and hope to contain them b) ??? I would field 1st tomorrow as if we are batting last we have the option to bat out for a draw whereas if Ozzies are batting last they have nothing to lose and would go all out for win. Anyone else ?????

06-09-2005, 21:54	#2 (permalink)
PAULM03 Sabbatical punter Join Date: 27 Nov 2000 Age: 29 Posts: 10,391	Re: Ashes - THE BIG ONE Bat first and try to run up a mammoth score. Going into the last day needing not to be bowled out is the last thing we need.

06-09-2005, 22:02	#3 (permalink)
aliando - Join Date: 12 Aug 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 21,013 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 5	Re: Ashes - THE BIG ONE I agree with ksportz - stick them in first, play defensive and know what you need to do with the bat then. At this point, England are winning - the pressure is on the Aussies to attack.

06-09-2005, 22:15	#4 (permalink)
PAULM03 Sabbatical punter Join Date: 27 Nov 2000 Age: 29 Posts: 10,391	Re: Ashes - THE BIG ONE Why go on the defensive when the pressure is on the Aussies? Don't forget they still have some of the worlds best batsmen who are more than capable of putting 350 on the board in the first day against any bowling attack. If we can get a score in the region of 400 they know they're in real trouble before we've even bowled a ball, and on form I trust our bowlers to bowl to a target over our batsmen batting to a target. Have you forgotten the last test already?

06-09-2005, 22:16	#5 (permalink)
friskyfitz Modest + Well Hung Punter Join Date: 22 Jul 2003 Location: Middle Earth Age: 35 Posts: 16,397 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Re: Ashes - THE BIG ONE Who's playing? Knew that would upset ye!!! __________________ When I was born, I was given a choice! A Big cock or a great memory - Ive forgotten what I chose!

06-09-2005, 22:20	#7 (permalink)
peteg40 God Punter Join Date: 26 Oct 2004 Location: central uk Age: 46 Posts: 5,138	Re: Ashes - THE BIG ONE The so called experts say whoever bats first wins this game, but looking at the weather for thursday & friday a draw looks the best bet to me.

07-09-2005, 00:14	#9 (permalink)
aliando - Join Date: 12 Aug 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 21,013 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 5	Re: Ashes - THE BIG ONE Betfair currently offering 2.44 for England to win the Ashes series 2-1... I've just thrown a couple of quid at it. England trying not to lose and the British weather - decent partnership, perhaps...

07-09-2005, 01:05	#10 (permalink)
meatman meaty punter Join Date: 26 Feb 2005 Age: 21 Posts: 12,960 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Re: Ashes - THE BIG ONE it is such a tough match to call but i fear an Aussie batting backlash. i've got a feeling that they will win the toss and bat first rake up a mammoth score and we'll have to hang on for the rest of the match. if we win the toss we must bat first, we don't wanna be facing warne on a 5th day oval pitch. I personally think that Eng will somehow win the Ashes but its' so important that our batsmen fire for this one. __________________ The Meatman - always looking out for a meaty price to get his teeth into

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