"Not to lose" Accumalator Calculators

[Cusamano]

Hi not sure if this is the right forum....

Does anybody know any sites that have a "Not to lose" betting calculator for football games.

I have been using this one....

http://www.footballanorak.com/not_to_lose.html

But it doesn't seem to be working properly at the moment. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Paul Ross]

Never heard of one of those tbh Cusamano.

Have your tried googling it?

to PL btw.

[Cusamano]

Originally Posted by Paul Ross

Never heard of one of those tbh Cusamano.

Have your tried googling it?

to PL btw.

Thanks for the Welcome

Yeah I have tried googling it but have failed to find one.

Its a shame because that "not to lose" calculator has made me a tiny fortune recently.

[Paul Ross]

Is this any good http://www.winning4u.com/dutching.html ?

[Cusamano]

Originally Posted by Paul Ross

Is this any good http://www.winning4u.com/dutching.html ?

Thats a pretty decent calculator. The only problem with that one is that you have to calculate each price individually.

But Thanks for the link.

[timbo_boston]

Hi cusamano another newbie here your link is working fine to me what was the problem with it. It looks a cert for winning.

[Cusamano]

Originally Posted by timbo_boston

Hi cusamano another newbie here your link is working fine to me what was the problem with it. It looks a cert for winning.

At the moment its giving me four options instead of two.

For example if I want to know what the odds of chelsea and Man utd not losing their next games are, I select them from the drop down box and then click on calculate. It gives me this...



It shouldn't be listing each team twice.

[Cusamano]

it seems to have been fixed.

Thanks to those that helped.

[davidmphill]

Originally Posted by Cusamano

it seems to have been fixed.

Thanks to those that helped.

I was going to say, I've just tried it and it works a dream!
Hope to have you on here again very soon.

[Cusamano]

Originally Posted by davidmphill

I was going to say, I've just tried it and it works a dream!
Hope to have you on here again very soon.

I'll defo be here.

This looks a great forum. Can't believe I only just discovered it.

[Paul Ross]

Join us at Sandown if you want to, tickets paid for and beer, Saturday Feb 4th. See here for more details http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/s...755#post358755

More than welcome, but let me know asap if you can make it.

Plenty of people have never met even though this is the 4th meeting, so you won't feel uncomfortable.

[DeadCert]

Its pretty easy to do on your own calculator

Team A not to lose is the inversion of team B to win. Multiply the digital odds of each selection. voila!

[aliando]

i'd also be interested in a larger calculator for 'not to win' as football anorak only does a combo of 5 teams.

cheers.

[georgej]

Aliando - i don't have an option to attach a spreadsheet, but if what you are talking about is a dutching calculator, there is one at www.arbforum.co.uk that does back and lay dutching

[aliando]

cheers georgej - i've got a dutching calculator but the one at football anorak shows all the combos for betting on the win and draw with all the prices for the bets for a straight return. Its just something that i'm playing with at the moment and is proving quite helpful but only allows up to 5 teams.

what i'll probably end up doing instead is switching to draw no bet or double chance as its a damn sight easier to sort out!

thanks mate!

[goodfren]

Anyone interested in the free calculator can check the site below

http://www.arbcruncher.com/index.asp

[misky]

Anyone know of a formula for doing this?
I've had a good search for calculators but none of them seem to have the capability to do this...

3 selections
Back 1 of them and have 2 as savers
OR
Back 2 of them and 1 as a saver

[slapdash]

Originally Posted by misky

Anyone know of a formula for doing this?
I've had a good search for calculators but none of them seem to have the capability to do this...

3 selections
Back 1 of them and have 2 as savers
OR
Back 2 of them and 1 as a saver

You mean that if one of the savers wins, you want to break even? And in the
second case you want the same profit no matter which of the main bets wins?

If so:

Main bet at decimal odds of X, savers at odds of Y and Z.

To get the same return on the savers, bet 1/Y and 1/Z respectively. Your
return will be 1 if one of the savers wins, so to break even, your total stake
should be 1, so bet 1 - 1/X - 1/Y on the main bet. If the main bet wins,
your profit is Z - Z/X - Z/Y -1. Obviously you can scale to whatever total
stake you want.

Main bets at decimal odds of X and Y, saver at odds of Z.

To get the same return if either of the main bets wins, bet 1/X and 1/Y
respectively. To break even if the saver wins, you want the potential profit
from that to be 1/X + 1/Y, so bet (1/X + 1/Y)/(Z-1) on the saver. Your
total stake is Z*(1/X + 1/Y)/(Z-1), which you can scale to whatever you
want.

[misky]

Wow. Thanks slapdash.
I've just had a go at it and it seemed to work out. I added the totals back together to check it and it came to 19.6..... from a 20 stake. I suppose that happens doesn't it? (windows calculator, 31 decimal places)
How the heck do you know all this stuff anyway? Amazing.
Thanks again.

[misky]

Hmm, just had a go at the second one.
Its calculating my return isn't it?
Must admit I'm a bit stumped.

When you say 1/X do you mean 1 divided by the odds?
I imagined that I should replace the 1 with my stake but X/1 and Y/1 then betting the result just returned the stake while Z came to less.

If you get a minute mate...
The stake I want to bet is £34.40
The odds I want to back are 2.20 and 9.50
With a saver at 6.70

(I reckon its around 1.50 for either of the winning bets)

...and could you put it on for me then do the washing up?
Like I say, just if you get a minute mate.

Is it beyond someone like you to make a betting calculator that can do these sort of multi bet and multi saver calculations?
...and then sell it... to me.

Cheers.