Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons - Page 3 - The Punters Lounge

solod86 · 08-12-2006, 13:52

Fellows here is the prove that bwin are swindlers:

“Уважаемый г-н Солод,

Хотим сообщить Вам, что после окончательной проверки было принято решение не производить выплаты остатка Вашего игрового счета, так как выигранная Вами сумма была получена c нарушением наших основных правил и положений.

После регистрации на испанской странице нашего сайта, Вы согласились с правилами получения 100%бонуса, в которых сказано, что бонус могут получить только резиденты Испании (скриншот этой странице Вы можете найти в приложении этого сообщения).

Приносим извинения за возникшие неудобства

С наилучшими пожеланиями

Компания bwin, финансовый отдел
Факс: +43-(0)1-5856044-19”
The letter is in Russian the translation sounds like this:

Dear Mr. Solod,

We want to inform you that after a complete investigation we have decided not to pay back your money which is left on your account, because the won sum was obtained by breaking our main rules and conditions.

After registration on the Spanish page of our website, You have agreed to the rules of getting a 100% bonus, in which it is stated, that only Spanish residents are eligible for the bonus (you can find the screenshot of this page on the attachment to this message)

Please forgive us for any inconvenience

Best regards........

they added a new offer to their proposal a few days ago after I asked for my money!!! Here is the prove, this is the link from were I have registered https://www.bwin.com/Default.aspx?pid=967first read the information in English and than change the language to Spanish and see the difference!!!!!
Just in case I made some screenshots of the two pages.

and

solod86 · 08-12-2006, 15:01

Hello dear support team bwin
My username is solod86, on November 19^th on my account I had 3575,46 euro. I had extracted 3500 euro from my account. You had asked me to send a copy of my ID for ID verification which I had sent to you after which I had found out that my account was closed, on my numerous letters you replied only on the 24^th of November which stated:

“Dear Mr Solod,

Thank you for your e-mail.

We apologise for the delay in our response.

Your Bwin account has been closed by our financial department due to security reasons and will remain closed.

As per our terms and conditions, which you had indiacted that you had read and accepted when you first registered, staes the following:

"The company reserves the right to exclude users from participating in any of the games of bwin International Ltd. at its discretion."

We are sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.

Kind regards,

Your bwin support team”

In my reply I agreed that you have the wrights to close my account when ever you like but you have no wrights to confiscate my money. And I asked for an explanation why you have closed my account and why you are not willing to give me back my money.

In response you wrote:

“Dear Mr Solod,

Thank you for your e-mail.
As we have already mentioned to you in our previous e-mails, your account has been closed by our financial department due to security reasons and will remain closed. Unfortunately, we cannot give out more information regarding this matter.
Please find the relevant extracts below of our terms and conditions:

""The company reserves the right to exclude users from participating in any of the games of bwin International Ltd. at its discretion.""

""The company reserves the right to rectify obvious errors when preparing account balances. The company will inform the respective users of the corrections immediately.""
You can view our terms and conditions by clicking on the link "Help", located on our website.

We now feel we have answered your questions fully and we regard this matter as closed, therefore we are not willing to disscuss this matter any further.

Kind regards,

Your bwin support team ”

In my reply I asked to be shown some evidence of my fraud activity or some prove of obvious errors:

“Dear Sirs,
my username is solod86.
You have locked my account. You have not paid to me money belonging to me.
Your explanations is:
1.""The company reserves the right to exclude users from participating in any of the games of bwin International Ltd. at its discretion.""
2.""The company reserves the right to rectify obvious errors when preparing account balances. The company will inform the respective users of the corrections immediately.""
************************************************** *********************
1.You have really the right to give up to me in games Bwin, but you cannot give up thus in the payment, taking place on my account.
2.You have not specified a concrete case that I made set of a bets, and all of them erroneous? I demand to specify particularly a case of "obvious errors when preparing account balances"
If this rectify obvious errors such obvious why you do not specify them to me.
And why it Is absolute not obvious to me.
Best Regards
Vitalii Solod”

Your answer to my email shocked me, I was astonished by it. Your next answer showed that at bwin.com are working everybody except professionals.

Dear Mr. Solod,

Thank you for your e-mail.

Your account has been closed by our financial department due to security reasons and will remain closed. Unfortunately, we cannot give out more information regarding this matter.

Your initial deposit of 50 euros has been paid back to your Visa card.

We are sorry for any inconvenience caused.

For a whole week (from December 1^st till December 7^th) I’ve emailing and calling your customers support service trying to get reasonable answers to my questions. For a whole week your financial department was looking for a reason not to pay back my money.
I also was doing everything possible to get my money back, so I asked for help at some websites and forums. On one of those forums I found some great people who wished to help me. After talking to some of those people, your company yesterday, agreed to pay back all of my money.

“Dear Mr Solod,

Senior management have taken the decision to payout the remaining balance of your Bwin account, of 3.525,46 Euros to your Visa card.

The funds should be available for you within the next few working days.

Kind regards,

Your bwin support team”

I thought that finally after 17 days of dispute I will receive my money, but my joy appeared to be before time, as today I received another letter from your company in which your financial department had invented a new reason not to pay me:

“Уважаемый г-н Солод,

Хотим сообщить Вам, что после окончательной проверки было принято решение не производить выплаты остатка Вашего игрового счета, так как выигранная Вами сумма была получена c нарушением наших основных правил и положений.

После регистрации на испанской странице нашего сайта, Вы согласились с правилами получения 100%бонуса, в которых сказано, что бонус могут получить только резиденты Испании (скриншот этой странице Вы можете найти в приложении этого сообщения).

Приносим извинения за возникшие неудобства

С наилучшими пожеланиями

Компания bwin, финансовый отдел
Факс: +43-(0)1-5856044-19”
The letter is in Russian the translation sounds like this:

Dear Mr. Solod,

We want to inform you that after a complete investigation we have decided not to pay back your money which is left on your account, because the won sum was obtained by breaking our main rules and conditions.

After registration on the Spanish page of our website, You have agreed to the rules of getting a 100% bonus, in which it is stated, that only Spanish residents are eligible for the bonus (you can find the screenshot of this page on the attachment to this message)

Please forgive us for any inconvenience

Best regards……..

I have attached that screenshot (file1) you have sent to me. I want to point your attention that I have registered on August 11^th 2006 and there was written nothing about that only Spanish residents are eligible for that bonus.
I won’t argue with you about this statement on your Spanish page (even If I strongly believe that this statement appeared a few days ago). I have registered on bwin.com from this link https://www.bwin.com/Default.aspx?pid=967, AND I HAVE REGISTERED ON THE ENGLISH PAGE OF YOUR SITE, and there is written nothing about only Spanish residents are eligible for the bonus (I have attached the screenshot of that page file2). And even now you can access that webpage and see your self that I’m not laying.
One more thing, there is written nothing about sanctions against non Spanish residents getting he bonus, especially there is written nothing about confiscating money from non Spanish residents. I wasn’t laying when I registered on your site, I wrote that I’m from Republic of Moldova, I didn’t ask you for the bonus you gave it your self!!!! You are building all of your accusations towards myself on terms and conditions of your website, please show me where it is written in your terms and conditions that you are allowed to confiscate my money because of an ostensible mistake while giving up bonuses although I got my bonus 100% legally???
Now I have realized that you don’t like winners, and whenever someone is winning you are trying to find a dozen on stupid and ridiculous reasons not to pay them money. I want everybody to find out my story and to find out that bwin.com are swindlers. But I will not refuse to fight for my money and for the truth. I will even take to court bwin.com if there will be such a necessity.

Sorry for any inconvenience
But you’ll have to pay me my money!!!

Vitalii Solod

dr.evil · 11-12-2006, 15:22

ok as i spend the last 30 mins or so reading all the posts i now understand whats hapenin,sorry but have to say it,u will never get your money back.and the reason?simply u have not deposit a cent with bwin,and thats it.some bookies will accept it and give u your money,some wont.coz the trick is here,they give u 50 euro,and they hope u will loose them right away so u will deposit your own money.but if u r good as u obviously are,then they have right to give u only 50 euro from whatever the winnings u can have.maybe u understand i hope u do,coz it wont help nothing,coz it is their policy.gbookers,betfair,bwin and all of the so called free bets no deposit required are the same.unless u deposit some euro u wont get s....

gl

p.s. i hope i am wrong but u r not the first case of this crazynes and as far as i can remember no one got their all winnings,and of course i hope that paul can help u!

Mr Bond · 11-12-2006, 16:16

Solod,

Did you withdraw your 50 Euro deposit before staking the bonus five times and you deposit once? In other words, did you stake 300 Euro before you received any money from them?

Paul Ross · 13-12-2006, 15:50

To the Management of Bwin.com,

You have until 5pm Thursday for that money (detailed below) and here http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39357&page=3 to be returned to his account.

If not, be sure you will be blacklisted across our network of sites, front page and headline news - no longer will you get away with this.

5pm...........the clock is ticking.......and 13,000 active gamblers will see exactly what you are.

Regards

Paul Ross

archaeus · 13-12-2006, 17:39

Paul

solod86 · 13-12-2006, 19:46

Paul, thanks you're the man!!
Hope it works!

Teddy_KGB · 14-12-2006, 14:35

Time is over soonly, any news?

Paul Ross · 14-12-2006, 16:51

Nope, seems they want to be headlines news, so I will make sure they are.

Paul Ross · 14-12-2006, 17:08

See www.punterslounge.com

They will also go in the Newsletter and remain in it every month until the matter is settled.

archaeus · 14-12-2006, 17:13

i hope that bwin will pay solod the money after seeing this in here ... PL has so much power so they'd better pay out

Paul Ross · 14-12-2006, 17:14

and here http://www.sports-punter.com/

solod86 · 14-12-2006, 18:06

Hi fellows!!!
THANKS, THANKS and one more time THANKS guys!!!!!!!
Bwin gave me back all my money till the last cent!!! Men you’re the best!!!
Paul, I don’t have the words to thank you!!! Your website is the best!!! Man, I’m really glad that there are people like you!!! I’m sorry it’s just I can’t find enough words to thank you!!! Now Paul I owe you one!!!! Believe me I will not forget what you did for me!!!! So can I contact you via this email team@punterslounge.com?
Once again, Thanks everybody, thanks for everything, thanks for your support and for your help!!!!

Football-Tipper · 14-12-2006, 18:15

Glad to hear it

vitalyo · 14-12-2006, 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by solod86

Hi fellows!!!
THANKS, THANKS and one more time THANKS guys!!!!!!!
Bwin gave me back all my money till the last cent!!! Men you’re the best!!!
Paul, I don’t have the words to thank you!!! Your website is the best!!! Man, I’m really glad that there are people like you!!! I’m sorry it’s just I can’t find enough words to thank you!!! Now Paul I owe you one!!!! Believe me I will not forget what you did for me!!!! So can I contact you via this email team@punterslounge.com?
Once again, Thanks everybody, thanks for everything, thanks for your support and for your help!!!!

Congrats solod86.

Paul you are THE MAN!!!

GL.

Paul Ross · 14-12-2006, 20:42

That's good news, I will take Bwin down from their headlines news now, but please let this be a lesson to anyone with an account there.

Marek76 · 14-12-2006, 20:42

good news

shall we blacklist them anyway?

only because they paid out doesn't make them look any better

AK1979 · 14-12-2006, 20:46

I still think they should be blacklisted to be honest. You gave then a deadline and they missed it. Its not the first time either is it. In the interests of protecting our members I think there should be something in the forum warning people about this outfit.

Paul Ross · 14-12-2006, 20:51

That's a good shout actually, I'll create a blacklist thread and add them to it, along with the cases so far, but let everyone know they have been settled, although with a very big push.

chiqo · 14-12-2006, 21:08

Quote:

That's good news, I will take Bwin down from their headlines news now, but please let this be a lesson to anyone with an account there.

Bwin is my main booker. Best overview, biggest offer.But that Story shocked me. Paul I knew that you´re a good guy - it´s a great story and the winner is Solod - great.

Bwin haven´t the highest odds - but I wouldn´t start the "Who´s the best Booker" Thread....

Congratulation Solod - enjoy your time with 3.500 Euro

08-12-2006, 13:52	#41 (permalink)
solod86 Newbie Punter Join Date: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 20	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons Fellows here is the prove that bwin are swindlers: “Уважаемый г-н Солод, Хотим сообщить Вам, что после окончательной проверки было принято решение не производить выплаты остатка Вашего игрового счета, так как выигранная Вами сумма была получена c нарушением наших основных правил и положений. После регистрации на испанской странице нашего сайта, Вы согласились с правилами получения 100%бонуса, в которых сказано, что бонус могут получить только резиденты Испании (скриншот этой странице Вы можете найти в приложении этого сообщения). Приносим извинения за возникшие неудобства С наилучшими пожеланиями Компания bwin, финансовый отдел Факс: +43-(0)1-5856044-19” The letter is in Russian the translation sounds like this: Dear Mr. Solod, We want to inform you that after a complete investigation we have decided not to pay back your money which is left on your account, because the won sum was obtained by breaking our main rules and conditions. After registration on the Spanish page of our website, You have agreed to the rules of getting a 100% bonus, in which it is stated, that only Spanish residents are eligible for the bonus (you can find the screenshot of this page on the attachment to this message) Please forgive us for any inconvenience Best regards........ they added a new offer to their proposal a few days ago after I asked for my money!!! Here is the prove, this is the link from were I have registered https://www.bwin.com/Default.aspx?pid=967first read the information in English and than change the language to Spanish and see the difference!!!!! Just in case I made some screenshots of the two pages. and Last edited by solod86; 08-12-2006 at 14:44.

08-12-2006, 15:01	#42 (permalink)
solod86 Newbie Punter Join Date: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 20	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons Hello dear support team bwin My username is solod86, on November 19^th on my account I had 3575,46 euro. I had extracted 3500 euro from my account. You had asked me to send a copy of my ID for ID verification which I had sent to you after which I had found out that my account was closed, on my numerous letters you replied only on the 24^th of November which stated: “Dear Mr Solod, Thank you for your e-mail. We apologise for the delay in our response. Your Bwin account has been closed by our financial department due to security reasons and will remain closed. As per our terms and conditions, which you had indiacted that you had read and accepted when you first registered, staes the following: "The company reserves the right to exclude users from participating in any of the games of bwin International Ltd. at its discretion." We are sorry for any inconvenience this may cause. Kind regards, Your bwin support team” In my reply I agreed that you have the wrights to close my account when ever you like but you have no wrights to confiscate my money. And I asked for an explanation why you have closed my account and why you are not willing to give me back my money. In response you wrote: “Dear Mr Solod, Thank you for your e-mail. As we have already mentioned to you in our previous e-mails, your account has been closed by our financial department due to security reasons and will remain closed. Unfortunately, we cannot give out more information regarding this matter. Please find the relevant extracts below of our terms and conditions: ""The company reserves the right to exclude users from participating in any of the games of bwin International Ltd. at its discretion."" ""The company reserves the right to rectify obvious errors when preparing account balances. The company will inform the respective users of the corrections immediately."" You can view our terms and conditions by clicking on the link "Help", located on our website. We now feel we have answered your questions fully and we regard this matter as closed, therefore we are not willing to disscuss this matter any further. Kind regards, Your bwin support team ” In my reply I asked to be shown some evidence of my fraud activity or some prove of obvious errors: “Dear Sirs, my username is solod86. You have locked my account. You have not paid to me money belonging to me. Your explanations is: 1.""The company reserves the right to exclude users from participating in any of the games of bwin International Ltd. at its discretion."" 2.""The company reserves the right to rectify obvious errors when preparing account balances. The company will inform the respective users of the corrections immediately."" ************************************************ ******************* 1.You have really the right to give up to me in games Bwin, but you cannot give up thus in the payment, taking place on my account. 2.You have not specified a concrete case that I made set of a bets, and all of them erroneous? I demand to specify particularly a case of "obvious errors when preparing account balances" If this rectify obvious errors such obvious why you do not specify them to me. And why it Is absolute not obvious to me. Best Regards Vitalii Solod” Your answer to my email shocked me, I was astonished by it. Your next answer showed that at bwin.com are working everybody except professionals. Dear Mr. Solod, Thank you for your e-mail. Your account has been closed by our financial department due to security reasons and will remain closed. Unfortunately, we cannot give out more information regarding this matter. Your initial deposit of 50 euros has been paid back to your Visa card. We are sorry for any inconvenience caused. For a whole week (from December 1^st till December 7^th) I’ve emailing and calling your customers support service trying to get reasonable answers to my questions. For a whole week your financial department was looking for a reason not to pay back my money. I also was doing everything possible to get my money back, so I asked for help at some websites and forums. On one of those forums I found some great people who wished to help me. After talking to some of those people, your company yesterday, agreed to pay back all of my money. “Dear Mr Solod, Senior management have taken the decision to payout the remaining balance of your Bwin account, of 3.525,46 Euros to your Visa card. The funds should be available for you within the next few working days. Kind regards, Your bwin support team” I thought that finally after 17 days of dispute I will receive my money, but my joy appeared to be before time, as today I received another letter from your company in which your financial department had invented a new reason not to pay me: “Уважаемый г-н Солод, Хотим сообщить Вам, что после окончательной проверки было принято решение не производить выплаты остатка Вашего игрового счета, так как выигранная Вами сумма была получена c нарушением наших основных правил и положений. После регистрации на испанской странице нашего сайта, Вы согласились с правилами получения 100%бонуса, в которых сказано, что бонус могут получить только резиденты Испании (скриншот этой странице Вы можете найти в приложении этого сообщения). Приносим извинения за возникшие неудобства С наилучшими пожеланиями Компания bwin, финансовый отдел Факс: +43-(0)1-5856044-19” The letter is in Russian the translation sounds like this: Dear Mr. Solod, We want to inform you that after a complete investigation we have decided not to pay back your money which is left on your account, because the won sum was obtained by breaking our main rules and conditions. After registration on the Spanish page of our website, You have agreed to the rules of getting a 100% bonus, in which it is stated, that only Spanish residents are eligible for the bonus (you can find the screenshot of this page on the attachment to this message) Please forgive us for any inconvenience Best regards…….. I have attached that screenshot (file1) you have sent to me. I want to point your attention that I have registered on August 11^th 2006 and there was written nothing about that only Spanish residents are eligible for that bonus. I won’t argue with you about this statement on your Spanish page (even If I strongly believe that this statement appeared a few days ago). I have registered on bwin.com from this link https://www.bwin.com/Default.aspx?pid=967, AND I HAVE REGISTERED ON THE ENGLISH PAGE OF YOUR SITE, and there is written nothing about only Spanish residents are eligible for the bonus (I have attached the screenshot of that page file2). And even now you can access that webpage and see your self that I’m not laying. One more thing, there is written nothing about sanctions against non Spanish residents getting he bonus, especially there is written nothing about confiscating money from non Spanish residents. I wasn’t laying when I registered on your site, I wrote that I’m from Republic of Moldova, I didn’t ask you for the bonus you gave it your self!!!! You are building all of your accusations towards myself on terms and conditions of your website, please show me where it is written in your terms and conditions that you are allowed to confiscate my money because of an ostensible mistake while giving up bonuses although I got my bonus 100% legally??? Now I have realized that you don’t like winners, and whenever someone is winning you are trying to find a dozen on stupid and ridiculous reasons not to pay them money. I want everybody to find out my story and to find out that bwin.com are swindlers. But I will not refuse to fight for my money and for the truth. I will even take to court bwin.com if there will be such a necessity. Sorry for any inconvenience But you’ll have to pay me my money!!! Vitalii Solod

11-12-2006, 15:22	#43 (permalink)
dr.evil Junior Punter Join Date: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 90	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons ok as i spend the last 30 mins or so reading all the posts i now understand whats hapenin,sorry but have to say it,u will never get your money back.and the reason?simply u have not deposit a cent with bwin,and thats it.some bookies will accept it and give u your money,some wont.coz the trick is here,they give u 50 euro,and they hope u will loose them right away so u will deposit your own money.but if u r good as u obviously are,then they have right to give u only 50 euro from whatever the winnings u can have.maybe u understand i hope u do,coz it wont help nothing,coz it is their policy.gbookers,betfair,bwin and all of the so called free bets no deposit required are the same.unless u deposit some euro u wont get s.... gl p.s. i hope i am wrong but u r not the first case of this crazynes and as far as i can remember no one got their all winnings,and of course i hope that paul can help u!

11-12-2006, 16:16	#44 (permalink)
Mr Bond Newbie Punter Join Date: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 24	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons Solod, Did you withdraw your 50 Euro deposit before staking the bonus five times and you deposit once? In other words, did you stake 300 Euro before you received any money from them?

13-12-2006, 15:50	#45 (permalink)
Paul Ross Going to Vegas Punter Join Date: 28 Dec 2000 Location: Copenhagen Age: 34 Posts: 23,183 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons To the Management of Bwin.com, You have until 5pm Thursday for that money (detailed below) and here http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39357&page=3 to be returned to his account. If not, be sure you will be blacklisted across our network of sites, front page and headline news - no longer will you get away with this. 5pm...........the clock is ticking.......and 13,000 active gamblers will see exactly what you are. Regards Paul Ross __________________ Free Bets Free Betting Tips Odds Comparison

13-12-2006, 17:39	#46 (permalink)
archaeus doctor punter Join Date: 22 Sep 2005 Location: Romania Age: 28 Posts: 2,002 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons Paul __________________ Punters Lounge poker champion Barry's 2006 Euro & Worldwide Football Competition winner my blog

13-12-2006, 19:46	#47 (permalink)
solod86 Newbie Punter Join Date: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 20	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons Paul, thanks you're the man!! Hope it works!

14-12-2006, 14:35	#48 (permalink)
Teddy_KGB Banned Join Date: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 20	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons Time is over soonly, any news?

14-12-2006, 16:51	#49 (permalink)
Paul Ross Going to Vegas Punter Join Date: 28 Dec 2000 Location: Copenhagen Age: 34 Posts: 23,183 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons Nope, seems they want to be headlines news, so I will make sure they are. __________________ Free Bets Free Betting Tips Odds Comparison

14-12-2006, 17:08	#50 (permalink)
Paul Ross Going to Vegas Punter Join Date: 28 Dec 2000 Location: Copenhagen Age: 34 Posts: 23,183 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons See www.punterslounge.com They will also go in the Newsletter and remain in it every month until the matter is settled. __________________ Free Bets Free Betting Tips Odds Comparison

14-12-2006, 17:13	#51 (permalink)
archaeus doctor punter Join Date: 22 Sep 2005 Location: Romania Age: 28 Posts: 2,002 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons i hope that bwin will pay solod the money after seeing this in here ... PL has so much power so they'd better pay out __________________ Punters Lounge poker champion Barry's 2006 Euro & Worldwide Football Competition winner my blog

14-12-2006, 17:14	#52 (permalink)
Paul Ross Going to Vegas Punter Join Date: 28 Dec 2000 Location: Copenhagen Age: 34 Posts: 23,183 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons and here http://www.sports-punter.com/ __________________ Free Bets Free Betting Tips Odds Comparison

14-12-2006, 18:06	#53 (permalink)
solod86 Newbie Punter Join Date: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 20	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons Hi fellows!!! THANKS, THANKS and one more time THANKS guys!!!!!!! Bwin gave me back all my money till the last cent!!! Men you’re the best!!! Paul, I don’t have the words to thank you!!! Your website is the best!!! Man, I’m really glad that there are people like you!!! I’m sorry it’s just I can’t find enough words to thank you!!! Now Paul I owe you one!!!! Believe me I will not forget what you did for me!!!! So can I contact you via this email team@punterslounge.com? Once again, Thanks everybody, thanks for everything, thanks for your support and for your help!!!!

14-12-2006, 18:15	#54 (permalink)
Football-Tipper God Punter Join Date: 06 Oct 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 6,538	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons Glad to hear it

14-12-2006, 20:42	#56 (permalink)
Paul Ross Going to Vegas Punter Join Date: 28 Dec 2000 Location: Copenhagen Age: 34 Posts: 23,183 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons That's good news, I will take Bwin down from their headlines news now, but please let this be a lesson to anyone with an account there. __________________ Free Bets Free Betting Tips Odds Comparison

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14-12-2006, 20:42	#57 (permalink)
Marek76 (.)(.) Join Date: 12 Aug 2003 Location: CP Charlie Age: 32 Posts: 2,472 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons good news shall we blacklist them anyway? only because they paid out doesn't make them look any better __________________ Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

14-12-2006, 20:46	#58 (permalink)
AK1979 Gooner Punter Join Date: 07 May 2001 Location: Highbury & Islington Age: 29 Posts: 10,884 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons I still think they should be blacklisted to be honest. You gave then a deadline and they missed it. Its not the first time either is it. In the interests of protecting our members I think there should be something in the forum warning people about this outfit. __________________ WHL 71 Anfield 89 Old Trafford 02 WHL 04

14-12-2006, 20:51	#59 (permalink)
Paul Ross Going to Vegas Punter Join Date: 28 Dec 2000 Location: Copenhagen Age: 34 Posts: 23,183 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Bwin.com 3500 euros do not pay, not explaining the reasons That's a good shout actually, I'll create a blacklist thread and add them to it, along with the cases so far, but let everyone know they have been settled, although with a very big push. __________________ Free Bets Free Betting Tips Odds Comparison