Bookies - refusing to settle bets on the Bury game

[friskyfitz]

Originally Posted by mh_

From the punter's side - you lose both ways while someone else has your money to play with at their will, even if it's for a few days/weeks.

I won't elaborate any further into what should seem pretty obvious.

What I see is some are so acquianted with the receiver's end of tough love, they can't really tell anymore where the wrong is.

Paranoid or what ??

[mh_]

Not paranoid, just happy for myself for not touching British/Irish so-called bookmakers with a bargepole since ages ago

[MATT102]

I have now been paid by Paddy Power!

All is well that ends well

[buzzabouttheplace]

Good stuff Matt. They should have paid right away, seeing as you only placed a small stake.

[mh_]

Congrats on that, and good to know there's still some honesty left over there.

[Paul Ross]

Originally Posted by mh_

From the punter's side - you lose both ways while someone else has your money to play with at their will, even if it's for a few days/weeks.

I won't elaborate any further into what should seem pretty obvious.

What I see is some are so acquianted with the receiver's end of tough love, they can't really tell anymore where the wrong is.

You do talk some shit.

[ordinarysunday]

Originally Posted by mh_

Not paranoid, just happy for myself for not touching British/Irish so-called bookmakers with a bargepole since ages ago

It's so annoying when people just take free pops like that, I have worked in the industry for 17 years. I have worked for Hills, Ladbrokes, and two of the other major ones (one I can't mention cos I work for them now) and really it just becomes mundane hearing so many unsubstantiated (if that's a word) put downs of bookmakers and staff etc. All I have ever done is try to look at every single query that has ever been put to me in an 100% honest manner, whether my opinion is always right or wrong matters neither here nor there really.

Most of the people who are in this industry are in it for virtually the same reasons as me, we love it, but we are all pretty decent people who will treat you as you would like to be treated.

If you have any reason to doubt what I am saying then we can talk about it if you wish.

xxx

ordinarysunday

[friskyfitz]

Good post ordinarysunday.

Same type as will drink a shite pint in a crap boozer with dirty toilets, crap service and unfriendly staff yet not utter a word.

But Bookmakers..... They are just thieves all the time !

[mh_]

So, a sudden detour from the topic's theme ?

I guess all doubts solved now and it's perfectly OK for a book to slow-pay winners.

And I do rest my case if the topicstarter is entirely satisfied with this development.

I can try to repeat my main doubt even it would go rhetorical in all probability -

Why Asian books settle this in normal schedule while a perfectly regulated Irish book (I won't mention their hilarious limits for now) slow-pays ?

If you have any reason to doubt what I am saying then we can talk about it if you wish.

I honestly have no reason to doubt your honesty. E.g. the vast majority of people working for Enron were perfectly honest guys trying to do their job the best they could.

UK/Irish books have a business model that suits UK/Irish public fine. But it escapes my understanding why someone who is aware of other modi operandorum would still defend the UK/Irish model ?

There was a guy from an Irish bookmaker (not Paddy Power) few years ago on another forum - all his answers on why his book was cutting limits of winning players and then closing their accounts - were like "Oh, we are sorry but we have to protect our business and put the food on the tables of our staff". I neither had any doubts about the honesty of that answer, why wouldn't he be honest saying what he said after all ? In that case being honest meant total unwillingness to try another business model.
Said that, and judging by the general mood on this forum and few others, they would be doing just fine now, had they catered to UK/European market, but for some reason they had to have a strong urge to offer reduced-juice asian handicap.

Same type as will drink a shite pint in a crap boozer with dirty toilets, crap service and unfriendly staff yet not utter a word.

But Bookmakers..... They are just thieves all the time !

LOL, people you hang out with, or whom ?

[Paul Ross]

You've jumped ship from 1 issue to another, do you even know what you're talking about anymore?

There's nothing dishonest about UK bookmakers, because they get slaughtered if they fcuk up.

You want to go look at Bwin, 10Bet, Pointbet - shall I go on?

As for your point about UK bookies limiting winners.

I whole heartedly agree with you and I've said this before. They are behind the times. Instead of learning (and earning) from their customers by trading, they choose to close him down.

[Karel]

I don't live far from Bury and I never heard owt!

Seriously though this happened on the Rugby League a few years ago. St Helens v Bradford, but was more that St Helens put out all their kids and in them days you did not have to name a squad and word got out early, not only that but Sean Long as dumb as you can be had a bet against his own team on his own account, this ended up changing the laws and now all squads have to be named a couple of days before.