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Old 16-08-2008, 17:06   #941 (permalink)
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Holy . Oldham at 6.4 and Cov City at 2.9. Not sure we'll see a 5/1 plus shot doing the business again this season! No money staked but I had to chuckle when I saw the vidiprinter churning out these little beauties

Edit : Merllin mate I hope you didn't mind me putting up those 3-0s earlier, I don't want to tread on your toes as I know the 3-0 thing is your system. Respect.

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Old 16-08-2008, 17:15   #942 (permalink)
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You have to keep the sheets updated Fred as you no doubt have found out.Otherwise the wrong predictions and scores will be obtained.Also make sure that any matches rearranged have the correct date applied when you update.
But if some games are on Sunday (17th) then it doesn't matter, does it? Coz ManU and some other games are in 16th in the Spreadsheet, but actually are played in 17th.

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Old 16-08-2008, 17:23   #943 (permalink)
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No it doesn't matter if they're close together like that Lorenzo, but sometimes matches are rearranged weeks and months ahead or behind their original intended date and these can sometimes be missed.
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Old 16-08-2008, 17:25   #944 (permalink)
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Ok, thanks.

But I have still problems with these minus points. When I click Points Deduction and choose Bournemouth I can't go to minuses. Or did I misunderstood something?
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Old 16-08-2008, 17:42   #945 (permalink)
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Actually it does matter.

You need to update your sheets before each kick-off time never mind each day.

If you have updated your EPL sheet after todays 12:45 and 3:00 kick-offs you will notice that at least 1 predicted result has changed - Man Utd are now predicted to win 5-0.

I didn't note what the other original predictions were but they are now:

Sunderland 0 v 2 Liverpool
Aston Villa 0 v 2 Man City
Chelsea 2 v 0 Portsmouth

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Old 16-08-2008, 17:51   #946 (permalink)
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Actually it does matter.

You need to update your sheets before each kick-off time never mind each day.
I didn't find out how to change a match date in the sheets , anybody please help, with a short instruction? Thanks in advance
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Old 16-08-2008, 18:17   #947 (permalink)
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Actually it does matter.

You need to update your sheets before each kick-off time never mind each day.

If you have updated your EPL sheet after todays 12:45 and 3:00 kick-offs you will notice that at least 1 predicted result has changed - Man Utd are now predicted to win 5-0.

I didn't note what the other original predictions were but they are now:

Sunderland 0 v 2 Liverpool
Aston Villa 0 v 2 Man City
Chelsea 2 v 0 Portsmouth
the Villa prediction was 1-2 earlier this morning, the others were the same.
Good work there. I wondered about this last season but was told it didn't matter, but I apologise if I passed on duff information. I suppose results of one team can effect the estimated strength of another team because previous results between those two teams are an indicator of current strength, oh dear I can't say what I mean and my head hurts, but you get it I'm sure. This can make it rather difficult with games spread over four or five time slots in a weekend if the midday game (say in the Premiership) had a bearing on the 3pm kickoffs and those in turn on the 5.15pm kick off. We can't all spend all day at the PC updating the sheets and placing bets. We'll just have to manage within the limitations and I'm sure as results accumulate the effect may be less pronounced and would make little difference in the long run, may effect the Correct score systems (if there are any, I don't think I've seen any on here) more than the 3-0s and 2-0s etc.

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Old 16-08-2008, 23:35   #948 (permalink)
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So can anyone please tell me(us ) how to change match dates?
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Old 17-08-2008, 10:06   #949 (permalink)
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Lorenzo, click on the enter result tab along the bottom, then select the correct teams for home/away from the drop down menus and click on change date then select the new date from that box.
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Old 17-08-2008, 18:27   #950 (permalink)
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I have updated sheets up to and including Saturday 16th August results, if anyone is short just give a shout.Cheers.Merlin.
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Old 18-08-2008, 14:38   #951 (permalink)
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This weekends Bundesliga:
Hannover - Cottbus : 5-0
Hamburger - Karlsruher: 5-0
Hoffenheim - Gladbach: 5-2
Werder B - Schalke : 3-0
Bochum - Wolfsburg : 4-1

Is that what you guys get too???
Is there normally that many games with 3+ goals?

Just checking to make sure I got this right :-)
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Old 18-08-2008, 15:02   #952 (permalink)
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Yep you got the idea Fred, but Bundesliga have only just played their first game and much too early to start with this type of prediction until things settle down.Better to wait before putting any cash on these just yet.
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Old 18-08-2008, 15:07   #953 (permalink)
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Thanks Merlin...!

Yeah I will follow your advice from an earlier post and give it like 6 rounds or so...
That should do it for all the leagues right?

One other quick question??
How many units have this system earned previously??
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Old 18-08-2008, 18:47   #954 (permalink)
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If you look back at the archived threads you will see that this system has made a profit for each of the last three seasons, not absolute riches but steady progress.I believe last season it was £113.78 to £10 stakes.Cheers.
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Old 18-08-2008, 18:50   #955 (permalink)
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NORMS - Bournemouth @ 3.25
Wycombe @ 2.25

+2's - Liverpool @ 1.75

Paper trailing only....
I'll put the tables up next week but so far 5 bets = 2 winners but if we look a bit further the 3 losers were draws...... so if you were to lay the home side from the Norms & +2's we would have had 5 winners.........theres a thought..........
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Old 19-08-2008, 15:16   #956 (permalink)
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A quick heads up for the weekend

Norms - Leeds @ 2.26
Cambridge @ 2.16
York @ 2.6

+2's - Arsenal @ 1.65
Aston Villa @ 1.75
Chelsea @ 1.45
Back later in the week with the odds
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Old 22-08-2008, 13:10   #957 (permalink)
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Icebird89 I'm having problems with e-mails bouncing back.Have you another e-mail address, please contact me if you have, if you still want updated sheets.
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Old 23-08-2008, 10:22   #958 (permalink)
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Disappointing start to the EPL under selections last weekend especially with a 90th minute goal for Tottenham

One game for this weekend

Portsmouth v Man Utd UNDER 2.5 goals @ 1.73 (PaddyPower)
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Old 24-08-2008, 18:41   #959 (permalink)
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Norms - Leeds @ 2.26
Cambridge @ 2.16
York @ 2.6

+2's - Arsenal @ 1.65
Aston Villa @ 1.75
Chelsea @ 1.45
Back later in the week with the odds
And it's Wrexham tomorrow @ 2.04 for the NORMS...
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..... that's why its best to let around six games go by, there are more losers than winners!
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