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Old 13-09-2006, 04:30   #41 (permalink)
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Bali sec...(q) Andreja Klepac (SLO) - Olga Poutchkova (RUS)...{21}...{79}...[2] ...1,29...1
Bali sec...(1) Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS) - Erika Takao (JPN)...{100}...{0}...[1] ...1,051...1
Bali sec...(q) Sandy Gumulya (INA) - (8) Severine Bremond (FRA)...{9}...{91}...[2] ...1,2...1
Beijing sec...Yeu-Tzuoo Wang (TPE) - (3WC) Marcos Baghdatis (CYP)...{16}...{84}...[2] ...1,211...1
Bucharest sec...(1) Dmitry Tursunov (RUS) - Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (ESP)...{58}...{42}...[1] ...1,84...1
Bucharest sec...(4) Gilles Simon (FRA) - Jurgen Melzer (AUT)...{64}...{36}...[1] ...1,704...1
Bucharest sec...(5) Filippo Volandri (ITA) - Stefan Koubek (AUT)...{41}...{59}...[2] ...3,58...1
Bucharest sec...Andrei Pavel (ROM) - (3) Carlos Moya (ESP)...{27}...{73}...[2] ...1,568...1
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Old 13-09-2006, 08:33   #42 (permalink)
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very interesting thread ZaletoFF, i've been following it for a while now and it's been fascinating

a question if i may regarding this pick

Bucharest fir...(5) Filippo Volandri (ITA) - (q) Simone Vagnozzi (ITA)...{46}...{54}...[2] ...3,5...1


in your next post you edited it to a no-bet, why was that? because on the face of it, 3.50 about a 54% chance was a value bet. Reason i noticed this was because there was some fishy betting patterns yesterday on Betfair in the set-betting market for this match. Just before the match started somebody was buying up all the Volandri 2-1, they were even buying all the silly odds-on prices. Just wondering if you changed your selection to a no-bet because of outside influences (i.e. you heard a rumour that a fix is possibly on) or if it was a corrective decision by your NN

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Old 13-09-2006, 11:12   #43 (permalink)
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Beijing fir...Kristian Pless (DEN) - Kevin Kim (USA)...{64}...{36}...[1] ...2,85...1...-1
Beijing fir...Igor Kunitsyn (RUS) - (8) Hyung-Taik Lee (KOR)...{18}...{82}...[2] ...1,386...1...0,39
Beijing fir...(4) Mario Ancic (CRO) - Feliciano Lopez (ESP)...{72}...{28}...[1] ...1,8...1...0,8
Beijing fir...Yen-Hsun Lu (TPE) - Stefano Galvani (ITA)...{43}...{57}...[2] ...2,02...1...1,02
Beijing fir...Ramon Delgado (PAR) - Alexander Peya (AUT)...{30}...{70}...[2] ...2...1...1
Beijing fir...Kenneth Carlsen (DEN) - (2) Nikolay Davydenko (RUS)...{18}...{82}...[2] ...1,356...1...0,36
Beijing fir...Nathan Healey (AUS) - (q) Satoshi Iwabuchi (JPN)...{86}...{14}...[1] ...1,51...1...-1
Bali fir...Natalie Grandin (RSA) - Akiko Morigami (JPN)...{54}...{46}...[1] ...3,1...1...-1
Bali fir...Junri Namigata (JPN) - Hana Sromova (CZE)...{13}...{87}...[2] ...1,73...1...0,73
Bali fir...(6) Marion Bartoli (FRA) - (q) Ayu-Fani Damayanti (INA)...{96}...{4}...[1] ...1,071...1...0,07
Bali fir...Casey Dell'Acqua (AUS) - (LL) Lavinia Tananta (INA)...{86}...{14}...[1] ...1,246...1...0,25
Bali fir...Sunitha Rao (USA) - (WC) Angelique Widjaja (INA)...{58}...{42}...[1] ...1,794...1...-1
Bali fir...(q) Andreja Klepac (SLO) - Shikha Uberoi (IND)...{21}...{79}...[2] ...1,68...1...-1
Bucharest fir...Albert Montanes (ESP) - Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (ESP)...{28}...{72}...[2] ...1,671...1...0,67
Bucharest fir...(WC) Victor-Valentin Crivoi (ROM) - Edgardo Massa (ARG)...{47}...{53}...[2] ...2,25...1...-1
Bucharest fir...(4) Gilles Simon (FRA) - Juan Monaco (ARG)...{52}...{48}...[1] ...2,28...1...1,28
Bucharest fir...Mariano Zabaleta (ARG) - Stefan Koubek (AUT)...{49,8}...{50,2}...[2] ...3,17...1...2,17
Bucharest fir...Luis Horna (PER) - (3) Carlos Moya (ESP)...{26}...{74}...[2] ...1,493...1...0,49
Bucharest fir...Alessio di Mauro (ITA) - Sergio Roitman (ARG)...{35}...{65}...[2] ...1,833...1...0,83
Bucharest fir...Christophe Rochus (BEL) - (q) Aleksandr Dolgopolov (UKR)...{86}...{14}...[1] ...1,538...1...0,54
Bucharest fir...(q) Juan-Martin Aranguren (ARG) - (2) Florent Serra (FRA)...{3}...{97}...[2] ...1,305...1...0,3

+382-225=30
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Old 13-09-2006, 11:29   #44 (permalink)
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very interesting thread ZaletoFF, i've been following it for a while now and it's been fascinating
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a question if i may regarding this pick

Bucharest fir...(5) Filippo Volandri (ITA) - (q) Simone Vagnozzi (ITA)...{46}...{54}...[2] ...3,5...1


in your next post you edited it to a no-bet, why was that? because on the face of it, 3.50 about a 54% chance was a value bet. Reason i noticed this was because there was some fishy betting patterns yesterday on Betfair in the set-betting market for this match. Just before the match started somebody was buying up all the Volandri 2-1, they were even buying all the silly odds-on prices. Just wondering if you changed your selection to a no-bet because of outside influences (i.e. you heard a rumour that a fix is possibly on) or if it was a corrective decision by your NN
Bet has been corrected before the beginning of a match.
Unfortunately I had not enough time and I could not wait, when PinnacleSports, WillHill and others bookies makes the line on a match...
Fortunately, I could see line PinnacleSports...
These three bets have been corrected before of a match...
Agree, to make bet with coef. 3.5 it not the same, what to make bet with coef. 6 and is higher, the special confidence is necessary.
Any other factors have not affected a choice.



I ask to excuse me for this bet... More such it will not be repeated... If you want - I shall include this bet in lost.
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Old 13-09-2006, 18:40   #45 (permalink)
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no need to excuse the bet. Please excuse me. I wasn't suggesting for a second that you edited your post to hide a loser. In any case, looking at the times it is clear that you edited your post before the match had started, so no need to include it in your stats as "lost". It is clearly a "no-bet"

i was only asking if the decision to change it to a no-bet was a mathematical decision (and going by your subsequent reply it clearly was) or if it was an outside factor (say you heard a rumour the match was fixed, or you read somewhere that the player was carrying an injury or his father had taken ill and this might affect his mental state etc. etc. etc.)

many thanks for creating this thread and taking the time to update it, it is very much appreciated

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Old 13-09-2006, 19:17   #46 (permalink)
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nice results recently. keep it up.

I think it might be better if you included some more info with the results though. Strike-rate for example and % yield in particular. The monetary figure on its own doesn't really mean a lot without providing a context.
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Old 13-09-2006, 19:37   #47 (permalink)
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Beijing sec...(q) Luka Gregorc (SLO) - (2) Nikolay Davydenko (RUS)...{0}...{100}...[2] ...1,098...1
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no need to excuse the bet. Please excuse me. I wasn't suggesting for a second that you edited your post to hide a loser. In any case, looking at the times it is clear that you edited your post before the match had started, so no need to include it in your stats as "lost". It is clearly a "no-bet"

i was only asking if the decision to change it to a no-bet was a mathematical decision (and going by your subsequent reply it clearly was) or if it was an outside factor (say you heard a rumour the match was fixed, or you read somewhere that the player was carrying an injury or his father had taken ill and this might affect his mental state etc. etc. etc.)

many thanks for creating this thread and taking the time to update it, it is very much appreciated

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Old 13-09-2006, 19:44   #49 (permalink)
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nice results recently. keep it up.

I think it might be better if you included some more info with the results though. Strike-rate for example and % yield in particular. The monetary figure on its own doesn't really mean a lot without providing a context.
Ok.
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Bucharest 14...Jurgen Melzer (AUT) - (6) Ruben Ramirez-Hidalgo (ESP)...{52}...{48}...[1] ...2,35...1
Bucharest 14...(7) Florian Mayer (GER) - (2) Florent Serra (FRA)...{66}...{34}...[1] ...1,658...1
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Beijing 14...(4) Mario Ancic (CRO) - (5) Dominik Hrbaty (SVK)...{65}...{35}...[1] ...1,552...1
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Bucharest 14...(5) Filippo Volandri (ITA) - (3) Carlos Moya (ESP)...{26}...{74}...[2] ...1,373...1
Beijing 14...(6) Paradorn Srichaphan (THA) - (2) Nikolay Davydenko (RUS)...{23}...{77}...[2] ...1,485...1
Bali 14...(3) Lindsay Davenport (USA) - Hana Sromova (CZE)...{98}...{2}...[1] ...1,031...1
Bali 14...(6) Marion Bartoli (FRA) - Olga Poutchkova (RUS)...{85}...{15}...[1] ...1,235...1
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Bucharest sec...Christophe Rochus (BEL) - (6) Ruben Ramirez-Hidalgo (ESP)...{30}...{70}...[2] ...1,485...1...0,49
Bucharest sec...Martin Vassallo-Arguello (ARG) - (2) Florent Serra (FRA)...{27}...{73}...[2] ...1,408...1...0,41
Bucharest sec...(1) Dmitry Tursunov (RUS) - Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (ESP)...{58}...{42}...[1] ...1,84...1...-1
Bucharest sec...(4) Gilles Simon (FRA) - Jurgen Melzer (AUT)...{64}...{36}...[1] ...1,704...1...-1
Bucharest sec...(5) Filippo Volandri (ITA) - Stefan Koubek (AUT)...{41}...{59}...[2] ...3,58...1...-1
Bucharest sec...Andrei Pavel (ROM) - (3) Carlos Moya (ESP)...{27}...{73}...[2] ...1,568...1...0,57
Beijing sec...(6) Paradorn Srichaphan (THA) - (q) Satoshi Iwabuchi (JPN)...{89}...{11}...[1] ...1,157...1...0,16
Beijing sec...Yeu-Tzuoo Wang (TPE) - (3WC) Marcos Baghdatis (CYP)...{16}...{84}...[2] ...1,211...1...0,21
Beijing sec...(q) Luka Gregorc (SLO) - (2) Nikolay Davydenko (RUS)...{0}...{100}...[2] ...1,098...1...0,1
Bali sec...(1) Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS) - Erika Takao (JPN)...{100}...{0}...[1] ...1,051...1...0,05
Bali sec...(q) Sandy Gumulya (INA) - (8) Severine Bremond (FRA)...{9}...{91}...[2] ...1,2...1...0,2
Bali sec...(3) Lindsay Davenport (USA) - Akiko Morigami (JPN)...{94}...{6}...[1] ...1,099...1...0,1
Bali sec...(q) Andreja Klepac (SLO) - Olga Poutchkova (RUS)...{21}...{79}...[2] ...1,29...1...0,29

Starting bank: 10000$
Current bank: 13993.4$
Total staked: 65000$
Number of bets: 650
Winning bets: 392
Losing bets: 228
Return bets: 30
Avr. wins odds: 1.692
Strike rate: 63.22%
Yield: +6.14%
Profit: +3993.4$
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Bucharest 14...Jurgen Melzer (AUT) - (6) Ruben Ramirez-Hidalgo (ESP)...{52}...{48}...[1] ...2,35...1...1,35
Bucharest 14...(7) Florian Mayer (GER) - (2) Florent Serra (FRA)...{66}...{34}...[1] ...1,658...1...-1
Bucharest 14...(5) Filippo Volandri (ITA) - (3) Carlos Moya (ESP)...{26}...{74}...[2] ...1,373...1...-1
Beijing 14...(4) Mario Ancic (CRO) - (5) Dominik Hrbaty (SVK)...{65}...{35}...[1] ...1,552...1...0,55
Beijing 14...(6) Paradorn Srichaphan (THA) - (2) Nikolay Davydenko (RUS)...{23}...{77}...[2] ...1,485...1...0
Bali 14...(3) Lindsay Davenport (USA) - Hana Sromova (CZE)...{98}...{2}...[1] ...1,031...1...0,03
Bali 14...(6) Marion Bartoli (FRA) - Olga Poutchkova (RUS)...{85}...{15}...[1] ...1,235...1...0,24

Starting bank: 10000$
Current bank: 14010.02$
Total staked: 65600$
Number of bets: 656
Winning bets: 396
Losing bets: 230
Return bets: 30
Avr. wins odds: 1.691
Strike rate: 63.26%
Yield: +6.11%
Profit: +4010.02$
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Bucharest 12...(5) Filippo Volandri (ITA) - (2) Florent Serra (FRA)...{41}...{59}...[2] ...2,05...1
Beijing 12...(3WC) Marcos Baghdatis (CYP) - (6) Paradorn Srichaphan (THA)...{73}...{27}...[1] ...1,575...1
Bali 12...(1) Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS) - (3) Lindsay Davenport (USA)...{29}...{71}...[2] ...1,588...1


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Bucharest fin...Jurgen Melzer (AUT) - (5) Filippo Volandri (ITA)...{57}...{43}...[1] ...2,42...1
Beijing fin...(4) Mario Ancic (CRO) - (3WC) Marcos Baghdatis (CYP)...{47}...{53}...[2] ...1,926...1
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Beijing fir...Anna Chakvetadze (RUS) - (5) Lindsay Davenport (USA)...{9}...{91}...[2] ...1,204...1
Beijing fir...Elena Vesnina (RUS) - Emma Laine (FIN)...{51}...{49}...[1] ...2,02...1
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Kolkata fir...Tzipi Obziler (ISR) - Yulia Beygelzimer (UKR)...{43}...{57}...[2] ...1,847...1
Kolkata fir...Tamarine Tanasugarn (THA) - (6) Kaia Kanepi (EST)...{56}...{44}...[1] ...2,65...1
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Portoroz fir...(WC) Sanja Ancic (CRO) - Tsvetana Pironkova (BUL)...{7}...{93}...[2] ...1,641...1
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Bali 12...(1) Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS) - (3) Lindsay Davenport (USA)...{29}...{71}...[2] ...1,588...1...-1
Bucharest 12...(5) Filippo Volandri (ITA) - (2) Florent Serra (FRA)...{41}...{59}...[2] ...2,05...1...-1
Bucharest fin...Jurgen Melzer (AUT) - (5) Filippo Volandri (ITA)...{57}...{43}...[1] ...2,42...1...1,42
Beijing 12...(3WC) Marcos Baghdatis (CYP) - (6) Paradorn Srichaphan (THA)...{73}...{27}...[1] ...1,575...1...0,57
Beijing fin...(4) Mario Ancic (CRO) - (3WC) Marcos Baghdatis (CYP)...{47}...{53}...[2] ...1,926...1...0,93

Starting bank: 10000$
Current bank: 14102.3$
Total staked: 66200$
Number of bets: 662
Winning bets: 399
Losing bets: 232
Return bets: 31
Avr. wins odds: 1.692
Strike rate: 63.23%
Yield: +6.20%
Profit: +4102.3$
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