martingale the virtual football at corals?!?!

[statman john]

hi all
second post and possibly the bit where i get a reputation for being a muppet but here goes.
I am sure you all understand the martingale system but if you are willing to risk lots of cash for small reward then maybe it should not be quickly dismissed.
Basically I am thinking of using the martingale system (chasing my losses) on corals's virtual football game. My plan is to pick 5 teams at the start of the season, bet the draw for each of my 5 teams, every game until they draw and increase the stake to recover my losses ( i stop once they have drawn). from a quick review of previous results and knowledge of football most teams will draw within 10 games, frequently on coral a team will go 14 games before a draw and the biggest run i have seen is 22 games. I am only aiming to make £1 per team and at average odds of about 4s i think i need a kitty of about £300 for a worse case scenario.
You are probably thinking i am nuts but the virtual football runs contstantly therefore although you only make £1 per team you will make £5 for about 15 minutes work risking upto £50 (for 14 game run) and the likelyhood is only 1 of your teams will go on this run. I can do this every hour until my pot builds up and then i can raise my stake. I pressume the random number generators for these type of games has to allow for a draw soon er or late. Unlike the similar systems used on the roulette wheels, at these prices it is highly unlicky that you will hit the house limit and your risk factor goes up relatively slowly for such a dangerous system.

You will probably be glad to know im only planning to try this with money i have taken off the bookies in free bets

Id love to know what you all think
cheers
j

[harold90]

hi
i do think you can make money with virtual football, but you do have to have a decent system.
having said that, i dont think that the "martingale" is the way to go.
i use a staking plan to win a target amount, on a loss i adjust my stake according to the odds offered to re-coup my loss & gain my target.
whatever you do, practice on the "fun money" first. unlike the online roulette the virtual football fun money sites have the same(i have checked) results as the "real money" site.
good luck.
harold.

[Spooner]

Good luck.

[statman john]

thanks harold90, maybe i have misunderstood the martingale system somewhere. i plan to win a target amount (ie £1 per team) and i adjust my stake to cover my losses and gain my target depending on the odds available so i think i am doing the same as you. Please let me know if this is not the case.
Ive had a go on the fun money and played for real until i lost the £50 in my account but i think with £300 i should be okay!!!!

they do say a fool and his money are easily parted!!!

[harold90]

Originally Posted by statman john

thanks harold90, maybe i have misunderstood the martingale system somewhere. i plan to win a target amount (ie £1 per team) and i adjust my stake to cover my losses and gain my target depending on the odds available so i think i am doing the same as you. Please let me know if this is not the case.
Ive had a go on the fun money and played for real until i lost the £50 in my account but i think with £300 i should be okay!!!!

they do say a fool and his money are easily parted!!!

hi
your staking is the same as mine. you must have a adequate bank. the sytem is up to you.
harold.

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

i use a staking plan to win a target amount, on a loss i adjust my stake according to the odds offered to re-coup my loss & gain my target.

That is the martingale system. Misunderstanding may be that many think the martingale system is doubling up each time. This is simply because its often applied to EVS odds bets so therefore doubling up is necessary to achieve the desired outcome.

[Dices]

Virtual football is exactly the same as roulette. It has an in build ‘margin’ – the bookmaker’s profit - and results are random. So in the long run you will loose money whatever staking plan you will use.
The only way a bettor has a ‘chance’ to win money by betting is at the cases that involve judgment. If your judgment about the outcome of an event is better than the ‘chances’ taken from odds then you will eventually win.
Dices

[Bedlam]

Originally Posted by Dices

Virtual football is exactly the same as roulette. It has an in build ‘margin’ – the bookmaker’s profit - and results are random. So in the long run you will loose money whatever staking plan you will use.
The only way a bettor has a ‘chance’ to win money by betting is at the cases that involve judgment. If your judgment about the outcome of an event is better than the ‘chances’ taken from odds then you will eventually win.
Dices

I completely agree & I'd never trust a virtual game run by a bookmaker. I've lost a fair bit of money in the past with similar systems I thought could not lose. e.g. It's incredible how many times a virtual roulette ball lands on '0' twice in succession (far more often than the odds of approx 1000/1 suggest!) & you'll regularly get a run of 15 to 20 0n one colour. I'm older & wiser now, so wouldn't go near one of those games!

However, I have had some success using the martindale system on draws in real football matches, where some skill & judgement is req'd in selecting the matches to bet on, and there is no chance of a conspiracy against you! but even then, in my experience will only work over a short period, or you will come to a run of 10 matches without finding a draw!

[Bedlam]

Just had a quick look at Corals virtual football. Man Utd have lost their last 4 games (to West Ham, Bolton, Birmingham & Man City!)