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Old 24-03-2008, 11:39   #1 (permalink)
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Today's UK fixtures showing how each team has performed relative to the win odds offered over the most recent six games. the higher the figure the better the expected performance ... the lower the figure the worse the performance.

-0.47297


0.5625


-0.18421


-0.23133


0.561678


-0.33703


Bournemouth

Tranmere

-0.36939


-0.44164


-0.35479


-0.21148


0.455677


0.347623


0.595376


0.738806


0.414716


0.273105


-0.40046


0.614112


Carlisle

Northampton

0.672897


-0.556


0.744526


-0.34063


0.636364


-0.41841


-0.32558


-0.38356


-0.29979


0.830508


0.569496


-0.33493


Cheltenham

Leyton Orient

-0.40115


-0.35176


-0.51245


0.5189


0.665871


-0.41543


0.64121


0.576527


0.268547


0.297189


-0.41104


-0.47138


Doncaster

Oldham

0.563319


-0.54012


0.552716


0.415693


-0.44728


-0.52592


-0.36458


0.730769


0.451411


0.520548


-0.26071


-0.3642


Hartlepool

Yeovil

-0.44304


-0.33654


0.493121


-0.46823


-0.36307


0.667932


-0.38002


-0.45752


0.844617


0.670898


-0.46667


-0.27944


Millwall

Luton

-0.41891


-0.3214


-0.16949


-0.13462


0.647177


-0.46358


0.60114


-0.5456


-0.47458


-0.36307


-0.54306


0.617904


Nott'm Forest

Brighton

0.434572


-0.23171


0.716024


0.61475


-0.36515


0.453978


-0.24639


-0.36251


-0.13726


0.748201


-0.26871


-0.18182


Port Vale

Gillingham

-0.46205


-0.23948


-0.26071


-0.14508


-0.48611


0.534884


0.533333


-0.69583


-0.61728


-0.43532


0.561952


-0.38525


Swansea

Bristol Rvs

0.659367


-0.37695


-0.45603


-0.37037


-0.36138


-0.48611


-0.29106


-0.40462


0.527027


-0.31818


-0.39548


-0.26168


Swindon

Southend

0.641577


-0.41298


0.328215


-0.4375


0.628253


-0.41741


0.651047


0.522184


-0.55162


-0.51852


-0.26769


-0.26769


Walsall

Crewe

-0.38932


-0.25153


-0.32558


-0.55512


0.686099


0.564677


0.651047


0.790607


-0.34636


0.566026


-0.25641


-0.24902


Accrington

Milton Keynes Dons

0.484536


0.311701


0.548387


0.577295


0.343955


-0.45016


0.584076


-0.52671


-0.27335


0.591837


-0.55512


-0.28807


Bradford

Chesterfield

0.575243


0.64521


0.493121


-0.36364


-0.35587


0.435484


-0.175


0.73535


0.577805


0.59136


-0.35515


-0.22201


Bury

Mansfield

-0.44786


-0.3413


-0.37777


-0.28689


0.741697


-0.39106


0.469295


0.330784


-0.38932


-0.45752


0.42005


-0.54348


Darlington

Morecambe

-0.37736


-0.45603


-0.38106


-0.37333


0.545455


-0.40346


-0.37634


0.654321


-0.34861


0.450118


-0.23657


0.590643


Grimsby

Brentford

-0.27451


-0.54945


0.458204


-0.27723


-0.34843


0.478779


-0.27397


0.577039


-0.29851


0.607843


-0.40864


-0.3642


Lincoln

Hereford

-0.46512


-0.51622


0.545455


0.476048


0.488304


-0.5988


-0.29724


-0.43668


-0.26616


0.735849


0.575243


-0.20939


Macclesfield

Barnet

0.57395


-0.27888


-0.34688


-0.25926


0.486804


0.561129


0.333333


0.470499


0.515571


0.461952


-0.72841


-0.35053


Peterboro

Chester

-0.15766


-0.16868


-0.47297


-0.39437


-0.29474


0.738318


-0.45016


-0.44728


0.580336


-0.32258


0.444003


-0.43317


Rochdale

Rotherham

-0.3794


-0.62389


-0.38314


-0.38717


0.552716


-0.52083


-0.37982


-0.37294


-0.41642


-0.34483


-0.37433


-0.34146


Shrewsbury

Notts County

-0.4397


-0.36307


-0.45307


-0.41469


-0.13726


0.632931


-0.29228


-0.46053


0.678161


-0.19178


0.551282


-0.28747


Wrexham

Dag and Red

0.666667


0.718876


-0.3132


-0.54988


-0.17834


-0.46358


0.650175


-0.38002


0.587021


0.365942


-0.2935


0.603399


Wycombe

Stockport

0.556962


0.71134


0.4614


0.52381


0.610679


0.38326


-0.16018


-0.42093


0.625067


-0.41716


-0.25613


-0.13488


Altrincham

Stafford Rangers

-0.18158


-0.45455


-0.24255


-0.23179


-0.36138


-0.22166


-0.37879


-0.41032


0.605634


-0.44444


0.636175


-0.22343


Crawley Town

Aldershot

-0.57096


0.453978


0.307616


0.654321


0.340866


0.253731


-0.38803


-0.12844


-0.14894


-0.12844


-0.41347


-0.14989


Droylsden

Halifax

0.486427


-0.38568


0.759698


0.681818


-0.26566


-0.45307


-0.21957


-0.48276


0.536424


-0.556


-0.35714


-0.25381


Ebbsfleet

Cambridge

0.441341


0.597701


-0.53394


0.358974


-0.44728


-0.71356


0.646107


-0.40745


0.723866


-0.33654


-0.19858


-0.35897


Farsley

Burton

-0.54306


-0.37195


0.602273


-0.41104


0.333333


0.397072


-0.43103


-0.57613


-0.18325


0.492017


0.545455


-0.32483


Histon

Grays

-0.22501


0.69163


-0.34568


-0.39818


0.440448


0.295775


-0.43559


-0.15837


0.417637


0.541284


-0.22588


-0.22668


Kidderminster

Rushden & D

0.448385


0.513889


0.598854


0.740741


-0.30043


-0.43805


0.285714


-0.30108


-0.40161


-0.41056


0.552716


0.64521


Oxford

Stevenage

-0.61135


0.426386


0.623656


-0.52317


0.398108


0.430894


0.388112


-0.7617


-0.50179


-0.45016


-0.48951


0.397071


Torquay

Forest Green

-0.50872


0.568434


-0.43344


0.450118


-0.47945


0.421009


-0.37534


0.713115


-0.47138


-0.18088


-0.34965


-0.14721


Weymouth

Exeter

0.598854


0.303483


0.307616


-0.42814


-0.38889


0.400685


-0.46205


-0.63985


-0.32037


-0.59778


-0.19663


-0.24196


Woking

Salisbury

0.626667


0.23913


-0.34432


-0.39886


-0.63694


-0.48276


-0.38147


-0.26515


-0.43695


0.591837


0.671824


-0.369


York

Northwich

0.799139


-0.32407


0.60452


0.635985


-0.46205


0.551282



All I need now is to know how to use the information, of if in fact it has any use at all.

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Old 24-03-2008, 12:21   #2 (permalink)
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Interesting...

From your figures i'd have

Bournemouth Draw 9/4
Carlise home win 4/5
Cheltenham Draw 12/5
Doncaster home win 7/10
Hartlepool Home win 18/19
Millwall home win 9/10
Brighton Away win 4/1
Port Vale home win 7/5
Swansea draw 3/1
Southend away win 8/5
Wallsall Draw 5/2
MK Dons away win 3/4
Chesterfield away win 7/4
Bury home win 11/10
Darlington home win 4/6
Grimsby home win 11/10
Lincoln draw 12/5
Barnet away win 9/5
Posh home win 2/5
Rochdale home win 6/5
Notts County away win 5/2
Wrexham draw 12/5
Stockport away win 2/1

Just rough predictions working it out in my head

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Old 24-03-2008, 19:03   #3 (permalink)
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Today's UK fixtures showing how each team has performed relative to the win odds offered over the most recent six games. the higher the figure the better the expected performance ... the lower the figure the worse the performance.
How do you calculate the performance figures..... for a loss, it seems to be 1/(decimal odds)..... but for a win??.... or am I just being stoopid
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Old 12-04-2008, 21:14   #4 (permalink)
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How do you calculate the performance figures..... for a loss, it seems to be 1/(decimal odds)..... but for a win??.... or am I just being stoopid

I used average win odds available, individually for home & away team, then converted to p as you figured out . . . then . . .
If not win, rating = -p
If w, rating = 1-p

So, a team average 1/2 (1.5) to win, p=0.66
if win, awarded (1-0.66) = 0.33
if lose awarded rating of -0.66

A team average 4/1 (5.0) to win, p=0.20
if win awarded (1-0.20) = 0.80
if lose awarded match rating of -0.20

The procedure just uses the bookies as an expert witness for the probability figure then awards perfromance ratings based upon how they played against that "expert" expectation. The 4/1 team was not considered a hot-shot, so a win would give a bigger reward than the 2/1 on team would get for winning. Equally, the 2/1 on team would be penalised more for losing.

The process seemed to be based upon a certain logic, but like much in football betting, squeezing a profit from the figures does not appear an easy task.

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