Creation of a "systems calculator" tool for Punters Lounge

[Valiant23]

I like the idea of this a lot. I try and keep up to date with my system returns and generally do so every post, only for me to look back and see an obvious error.

I know its a sister site but the interface on Sports-Punter is really simple to use.

If that interface could be tied to the mechanics of calculating the system returns that would be a good place to start (imo). Then if it works okay maybe the techies could produce a more interactive version that can help plug system leaks.

What I would say though, is that if 'we' should get that far that it would be important for the people who use it to help develop systems (plug leaks) have to show their thought process in their thread.

[Datapunter]

Did i wake you all up then

Ok, lets get cracking,
on the team we have so far Datapunter, Zuluwarrior, Mcgin, Paulm03,
room for a few more if anyone else wants to join in the (working) fun.

Suggest we (the team) have a little brainstorm and then reply to some of the most excellent suggestion already made in this thread. We'll use this thread for ermm... project updates.

Any more thoughts ideas suggestions... bring them on.

[phantomDude]

I don't have any experience running a message board like punterslounge.com, so I don't know how easy it is to integrate the contents of posts into a database. I do however run a website that's in a similar vein to this (I mentioned it in my earlier post, apologies for breaking the house rules). In my experience, knocking up a web-page that consists of a few dropdown-menus, text-boxes, etc. that can be used as a front-end for a database is quite easy. Users could enter home/away teams in text boxes. You could even have a list of all teams in all leagues in the database that you use to populate a drop-down menu with. The advantage of this is that you could run queries across peoples systems. For example, you could say "Show me all the picks across all the systems where Man United are the home team". This wouldn't be possible if people entered teamnames into a text box (or into forum posts), because some people would use Man United, some would use Man Utd, some would use Man U, others Manchester United, you get my drift. The sniffy tool would see all these as being different teams.

It'd be similarly easy enough to write up a web-page where people could request information from the database. Same story as before, you'd have a page with drop-down menus, text boxes, etc. that people could use to fill in data, only this time instead of an SQL INSERT statement being generated from these values, a SELECT statement would be generated. You could implement this as a PHP script, which reads all the picks from the database that match the criteria specified, and keeps count of the profit/loss while it's reading in all the picks, and displays a final profit/loss figure.

You could also have a database table containing usernames/passwords. On the insert page you could have text fields for this, the php script could verify that there was a username with that password in the user database table. In this way, you could ensure that picks are associated with users in the database, and that users couldn't (unintentionally or maliciously) add picks to someone elses system.

The disadvantage of all this however is that it's not integrated into the punterslounge forum. Instead of users being able to enter picks by making posts like normal, they'd have to go to this web-page. Though when getting information on the performance of systems, if people didn't like the idea of using this web-page for whatever reason, someone could run a thread whereby they ran a query on the database to get the up-to-date performance of the systems, and post them there.

This mightn't be what you're looking for, but if it's a route that you decide to go down, I'll give you a hand getting it off the ground (if I can find the time!).

[berkshirehathaway]

Originally Posted by Datapunter

Did i wake you all up then

Ok, lets get cracking,
on the team we have so far Datapunter, Zuluwarrior, Mcgin, Paulm03,
room for a few more if anyone else wants to join in the (working) fun.

Suggest we (the team) have a little brainstorm and then reply to some of the most excellent suggestion already made in this thread. We'll use this thread for ermm... project updates.

Any more thoughts ideas suggestions... bring them on.

Just to agree with previous posters that a system calculator would be a very useful tool. I do not have the ability to construct such a tool but I do have several years' experience evaluating and using betting systems (and equity investment systems) for my own personal use. I would envisage quite alot of data being generated by this tool and, if needed, I would be happy to help collate/analyse/make sense of the results. I will look forward to hearing some concrete proposals and certainly have some ideas about a football system I would like to test.

[merlin]

.... yep, I would be interested in this project, but neither technical nor

programmer orientated, but have intense interest in all systems.

[jamieludlow]

There is a membership site called www.BetDevil.com that does this to perfection. Its awesome tool, but costs money. Check that out for ideas.

[Mr Intensity]

If you're still looking for dudes then I'd be interested

[SecondSight]

Hi all

I am quite happy for people to analyse my performance by taking my bets usually in weekend bets. I try to set them out in an easy format although I do mix decimal and fractional sometimes. I am happy to post all decimal if that is easier. I don'y normally analyse my yield but did last year about plus 2.5% which was disappointing as I think I should be hitting + 10%

I don't use programmes for a system just my head and tend to back football teams who are not short form picks as my route to value. I do always shop around for best prices, which are usually found on the exchanges.

[Datapunter]

I believe an apology is in order,
started this but been no followup for a while,
myself as well as a couple other people initially involved simply got swamped with the facts of life.

Looking at finishing several projects in the coming months as well as moving house,
so the intention is to pick things up in March, promise, really
On the bright side, by then i may have some software i can re-use for this.